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BrianC 
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Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 8:15pm |
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Big need for B/C/CA type gas tanks.
And C specific fenders.
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thomas davison
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Posted: 02 Sep 2011 at 2:59pm |
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It may be possible that some dies, etc are stored by AGCO in a salt mine somewhere in Kansas. I do not know how you can find out. They may have been destroyed by now.
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Dick L
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Posted: 02 Sep 2011 at 1:51pm |
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Don't offer them money. Tellem to take it off the broken baby bottles bill they threw on the floor when you had to carry them every where. (:^D
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 02 Sep 2011 at 12:33pm |
Thanks Dick I see. I see. When you do it it looks easy.
I have two grown boys that are expert welders. They take jobs from everybody and anybody but me. They act like my money is no good.
I deeded both of them 7 acres to build on so it's not like they need gas money to drive down to my shop.
Now, if it was my wifes tractor that needed a gas tank they would be fightin over who gets the job.
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Dick L
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Posted: 02 Sep 2011 at 8:33am |
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Easy, Just cut the bottom or bottoms below the seam, spot weld a band like in my picture to hold the edges flush with the inside of the top and weld below the seam. After welding make sure you use a tank liner kit while the inside is still sanded clean. That will take care of any pin holes in your weld if you happen to get any. The band around the inside gives you a thicker metal to weld which will helps with keeping from burning thru.
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 02 Sep 2011 at 7:41am |
I have a dozen or more B/C/CA tanks with issues like dents and rust. I keep trying to talk myself into making 1 out of 2 like Mr DickLs example shows it can be done.
No real need to reproduce anything but the tank bottoms in most cases.
Is there a way to cut one solid tank in two to knock out dents and tig it back together. I can see why using 2 would work better because there is no way to split the seam.
Reproduction C allis fenders would make a C allis restorers day.
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David Maddux
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Posted: 02 Sep 2011 at 6:48am |
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I am in the process of rebuilding fenders for my D-17. One thing I could use , is if someone would just make the back bracing that spot welds onto the fender. On one fender I have cut two in half to make one. It is finished all but some filler to hide the weld area. Dave.
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Dick L
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 12:45pm |
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Saber saw and angle grinder. Two different tanks. One had the bottom rusted out bad and the other one was bashed in across the top. Probly a tree or someone had a real bad temper. Both were junk to smart people. But I just hada had em.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 12:16pm |
 Dick L wrote:
TIG weld.
I spot welded a locating band to hold the edges straight.
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What did you use to take it apart? The edges where you took it apart look like they're straight from the stamping dies...
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AC WD45
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 12:14pm |
Wide front for WD45, a snow bucket for the trip loader would be nice lmao. Hydraulic cylinders, hydraulic lines for wd45, lift arm latches
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 11:37am |
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I would second the 5000 series. Particularly the engine parts, as these are totatly unavailable and quite a few good machines are scrapped cause rings, valves, and valve guides are not available. The rest is somewhat available from AGCO, I have gotten several parts from them for my 5015, but hte motor parts don't exist in their stock.
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 11:31am |
Coke-in-MN wrote:
Seems there is also a large industry now springing up in far east reproducing old motorcycle parts for British motorcycles. Seen a NOS gas tank for Matchless cycle sell for $950 and a NOS Norton tank go for $1200 , you can now buy reproductions of those tanks for $240 and $285 in chrome plated form.
Might pay for someone to see what these companies would charge to reproduce a tractor gas tank or fender. I know couple of the outfits are looking for pattern tanks to copy for other models so they can duplicate.
Unsure if there are more tractor restorers or old motorcycle restorers out there .
I just bought a front disc brake rotor for Norton for $97 , made in India, as the ones said to be NOS from England are $350 and the so called good one i bought on E-bay for $40 turned out to be a worn out piece from a scrap pile behind someones shop. |
I've heard that those Norton tanks don't even hold gas (from India). I thought about getting one for my Combat to replace the original fiberglass one.
What kind of Norton do you have? Mine is a '72 Commando 750 Combat that is metallic gold colored.
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Dick L
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 10:57am |
TIG weld.
I spot welded a locating band to hold the edges straight.
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 10:30am |
Dick,
How do you put it back together?
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 9:26am |
I've been thinking about trying to make the bottom circular part of the rib for the fender for the D- 10, 12, 14, 15.
Dusty
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 9:17am |
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Well Dick, I guess that is one way to clean out your gas tank.
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 8:56am |
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 8:54am |
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L 15-25 fan screen
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 8:51am |
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Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 8:14am |
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After the hassel i have had i think D-17 diesel radiators should be added to this list.
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 12:47pm |
The IB beams are being made by http://www.kammerer-inc.com/
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Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152
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David(Stockbridge)MI
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 10:49am |
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All new gauge, Modern Hydraulic tenchnology I hope. sold 10 so far with no complaints.
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All "NEW" Web Site http://www.djstractorparts.com
2035,A,U,UC,WF unstyled,WF styled,WC High Crop (cane),RC,B,IB,C,CA,WD,WD45,G,D10,D12,D14,D15,D15 II,D17,D19,WC styled,WC unstyled H3 crawler
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 8:50am |
David(Stockbridge)MI wrote:
Items requested that we have looked into or already have.
1. D14,D15 Fenders Had quote done $28,000 per die x 2 = 56,000 x L & R $112.000
2. IB frame, Have them.
3. D10 Hood, Have sample in and getting them made.
4. D Series, Have them in stock seat cushion as origional, Pan slight different to save on die.
5. D17 & D19 Fenders, Have. As Tony stated not bad for the money.
6. D Series Headlight mounts and grab handle. Have in stock. Had them cast.
7 Tach drive adapters D series off dist housing, Have in stock.
8. Lift arm latched. Have them being made. CA, D10,D12
These are parts that have been requested and have aquired or am working on and will add to our inventory as we can. David
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Dave,
I see you have new(I assume they are new) WORKING Traction booster guages....Whats the story on getting those made? Are they of the same construction or based on a typical modernday hydraulic pressure gauge?
Edited by TomYaz - 25 May 2011 at 8:51am
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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!
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David(Stockbridge)MI
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 7:31am |
Items requested that we have looked into or already have.
1. D14,D15 Fenders Had quote done $28,000 per die x 2 = 56,000 x L & R $112.000
2. IB frame, Have them.
3. D10 Hood, Have sample in and getting them made.
4. D Series, Have them in stock seat cushion as origional, Pan slight different to save on die.
5. D17 & D19 Fenders, Have. As Tony stated not bad for the money.
6. D Series Headlight mounts and grab handle. Have in stock. Had them cast.
7 Tach drive adapters D series off dist housing, Have in stock.
8. Lift arm latched. Have them being made. CA, D10,D12
These are parts that have been requested and have aquired or am working on and will add to our inventory as we can. David
734-320-3470
THANKS
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All "NEW" Web Site http://www.djstractorparts.com
2035,A,U,UC,WF unstyled,WF styled,WC High Crop (cane),RC,B,IB,C,CA,WD,WD45,G,D10,D12,D14,D15,D15 II,D17,D19,WC styled,WC unstyled H3 crawler
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 6:21am |
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How about D17 series I and II power steering pumps for this cheapskate tractor owner?
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 10:13pm |
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D series fenders to original dimensions and gauge.
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 9:23pm |
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Definitely fuel tanks fro pre "D" series models. Thanks!
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 8:36pm |
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Ross steering gear parts, B,C,CA,D10,D12.
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Allis B, IB, Low B, G, D10, JD M, 8KCAB, C152
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 8:09pm |
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How about some buda 273 engine blocks. Seams like every body is looking for those blocks. That covers both AC and cockshutt guys.
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 8:03pm |
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I made up some Barnes PS Pump shafts a few years ago, and had no takers when I offered them here, so I only finished one for myself. Fred is right, very few parts are really worth what it will cost to make them, even at minimum wage. I hate to say it, but tractor folks are cheapskates...
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