R-40 a little too eager for 2019

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   I'm looking for ideas where else to look.  My R-40 was parked in front of the corn planter.  I went to start it to move it out of the way and the engine rolled a few times and then nothing but clicking at the starter and a ton of static on the radio.  Cycled the key, nothing but clicking at the starter and persistent static.  The machine has new batteries and lots of battery capacity.  They both test fully charged.  When I bought the machine it had a brand new spare starter in the assortment of parts that came with the machine.  I've put about 500 hours on it since I've owned it and its started very time without incident. Changing starters is a simple swap so I disconnected the positive cables, swapped out the starter and when I attempted to put the positive leads back onto the batteries the starter began to roll the engine with the key in the off position?   Does anyone have any ideas of what is causing this?  New starter looked and fit up identical?   Kind of spooked me a bit so I'm in collecting my thoughts.  Any ideas are appreciated.  

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Arcs and Sparks Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 28 Dec 2015 Location: Ontario Points: 118	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arcs and Sparks Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: R-40 a little too eager for 2019 Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 12:27pm
	I'm looking for ideas where else to look. My R-40 was parked in front of the corn planter. I went to start it to move it out of the way and the engine rolled a few times and then nothing but clicking at the starter and a ton of static on the radio. Cycled the key, nothing but clicking at the starter and persistent static. The machine has new batteries and lots of battery capacity. They both test fully charged. When I bought the machine it had a brand new spare starter in the assortment of parts that came with the machine. I've put about 500 hours on it since I've owned it and its started very time without incident. Changing starters is a simple swap so I disconnected the positive cables, swapped out the starter and when I attempted to put the positive leads back onto the batteries the starter began to roll the engine with the key in the off position? Does anyone have any ideas of what is causing this? New starter looked and fit up identical? Kind of spooked me a bit so I'm in collecting my thoughts. Any ideas are appreciated.

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DougS Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490	Post Options Post Reply Quote DougS Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 12:58pm
	If the batteries are fully charged the cables may be loose or need cleaning.

jaybmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24690	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaybmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 1:14pm
	starter solenoid is bad( shorted) . I'm assuming it's ON the starter cause if it was external, the other starter would have been spinning too. Jay
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Arcs and Sparks Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 28 Dec 2015 Location: Ontario Points: 118	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arcs and Sparks Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 2:26pm
	Mystery solved. Pulled the wiring diagram and started tracing wires. Found some damage caused by those pesky things that live free while eating up the profits. No, not an ex-wife although the description fits, probably a mouse. When changing the starter I obviously moved some of the wires a bit and it allowed the bare spots to touch. Damage was right where the wires sit flat above the starter and go through a wire grommet. Didn't look like damage due to rubbing. Repaired it and that new starter really spins that engine. The old R-40 is back to purring like her normal self. Thanks to those who replied. Always appreciate tapping into people's experience. Seems that no matter how much time you spend blowing off/washing a combine at the end of the season it never turns out to be enough.

chaskaduo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5200	Post Options Post Reply Quote chaskaduo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 2:44pm
	That other mouse is commonly referred to as a House Mouse. A little more preferred critter. Edited by chaskaduo - 14 Apr 2019 at 2:44pm
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