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littlemarv 
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 Topic: Questions about a Woods belly mower
Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 8:46pm |
I'd like to find a Woods belly mower to put on a B. 1. Are they only "finish " mowers, or do they have "rougher" cutting ones? 2. What are the different size decks available? 3.I'm assuming there are special brackets and drive pulleys to each model tractor? 4.What should a guy pay for one, and are there any known issues to look for when buying one, or common problems with them? 5. What's with the left or right discharge? I always thought someday I would have a narrow front CA with a belly mower for mowing up at Pa's. But he has a B sitting there with new rear tires on it, and it hasn't gotten used much since I brought the WD home. Yes, a CA would be more maneuverable with a narrow front and a hand clutch, but the yard is mostly open so the B would be fine. Thoughts/advice appreciated.
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WC7610
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Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 10:05pm |
I think finish mowers. They have brackets per tractor model but I think you could modify. A CA would be ideal, don't care how open, when you get in heavy grass/weeds sometimes you need that hand clutch. I had one on a WD, I think a L306? not sure the number is right. Pd $1500 for it and tractor.
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AC720Man
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Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 8:07am |
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Dad's wide front CA and L306 woods is a good combo. Hand clutch is a huge help when maneuvering around objects or in thick grass. The CA has enough extra power to snap a belt in heavy grass if you push it too hard. It does a very good job mowing.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 8:32am |
I have a B with a WOOD... think it is a L59. 60 inch mower. Suppose to be a finish mower. Will cut taller weeds, but you got to keep the belt REAL TIGHT and raise the deck a few inches... A wide front B will turn pretty sharp. Wont spin on a dime, but they do good.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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mtanut
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Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 6:32pm |
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For a B, C and CA you need an L59 or L306 a Woods mower with out the L in front of it will spin the wrong way.
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I have a 185 Allis, 6060 Allis, Model K gleaner, SMTA ferg 35, ferg 20 (paps first tractor, Allis B (wife's)John Deere 240 skid loader and a bunch of the usual farm stuff.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 7:04pm |
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I have a continental mower on a allis chalmers c, works great for 350, in eastern iowa
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 7:08pm |
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Either an L 59 or L306 I've had both on a C and a CA the B has the same power as a C it'll handle either fine. They are finish mowers and are suposed to have end plates on both sides . They are rear discharge. Leave the plates on and they spread the clippings out behind you. I paid $2400 for my L306. I bought it new from the woods dealer. The L 59 came with the locked up CA that I bought. The belt must be kept tight and the hyd lift is useless. The manual lift was an extra $250 when I bought mine. I nolonger use a lift of any kind just a chain to keep it from droping down . TheL59 mows great without guage wheels just suspended from the chain . The L 306 osalatates to much without guage wheels
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Dick L
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Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 7:24pm |
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I have a B that I bought with a single center mandrel bladed Woods belly mower. I also bought a G with the same type blade. Both would be rough cut mowers much like any rotary mowers only mounts under the belly. I have never mounted either one. The one for the G has a single gage wheel in the front center. The one for the B does not have gage wheels.
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littlemarv
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Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 7:41pm |
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OK, so do I begin my search for an L59 or an L306, or a 59 or a 306? How wide is a 306?
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Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 8:07pm |
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L306 is 6 ft cut. Only one i am familiar with. Really good mower.
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Nathan (SD)
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Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 9:19pm |
 littlemarv wrote:
OK, so do I begin my search for an L59 or an L306, or a 59 or a 306? How wide is a 306? |
59 is plenty of mower if you do anything taller than a lawn. L models are more popular because that is what the Woods company recommends. (why??? I don't know) The L models need a extra twist in belt that in my opinion shortens the belt life. I prefer the non-L models but, they are harder to find.
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Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 7:09am |
littlemarv wrote:
I'd like to find a Woods belly mower to put on a B. 1. Are they only "finish " mowers, or do they have "rougher" cutting ones? Yes, finish mowers. 2. What are the different size decks available?
L59 = 60" L306 = 72"
3.I'm assuming there are special brackets and drive pulleys to each model tractor?
The B, C, CA all use the same pieces but the WD/WD45 are totally different
4.What should a guy pay for one, and are there any known issues to look for when buying one, or common problems with them?
Make sure the front lift wheels are in good shape as well as the mandrels for the belt to go around. They are both expensive. Make sure it has decent skids, they are REAL expensive. Side plates are optional if there is no one around while you are mowing.
5. What's with the left or right discharge?
That's for the side plates. I don't have any on mine, but then when I'm mowing, there is no one around and nothing laying in the lawn that will shoot out and break something.
I always thought someday I would have a narrow front CA with a belly mower for mowing up at Pa's. But he has a B sitting there with new rear tires on it, and it hasn't gotten used much since I brought the WD home. Yes, a CA would be more maneuverable with a narrow front and a hand clutch, but the yard is mostly open so the B would be fine. Thoughts/advice appreciated.
As you know Ryan, I just picked up the CA from Jim and took the Woods off from my C and put it on it. I like it SO MUCH BETTER than on the C. Mostly open doesn't work.... trust me. I still have to swap the tires around as the C has turf tires on it and Ag tires really chew up the lawn when you are turning. I cut in 2nd gear with the C and am in 3rd on the CA. WHAT a difference!! I'm done in no time now.
SO, start looking for a CA and hopefully you can find one with a Woods mower deck on it already.
I paid $1200 for my C with the Woods already on it. Was less than a year and I had to put a new center mandrel on it. I'll have to look up where I got my belt from, but it's been on there for about 8 years now. I can't remember *&%$, but I THINK I paid around $50-60 for it. I'm on my 4th set of blades, but I'm cutting a LOT of grass and everything around me is nothing but sand.
Hope this helps buddy! If you've got or get other questions, just give me a buzz. Have a GRAND day!!
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littlemarv
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Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 8:57am |
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Thanks for the replies.
Well, if I HAVE to get another tractor......
The trouble is, the B is sitting there rather forlornly, as I hop on the WD and use it for everything. And, it's grandpa's tractor that he bought brand new, so we would never sell it to make room for a CA.
Another hiccup, the B is sitting there with water in the basement. It's not the frost plugs, so I will bring it down this winter and give it an overhaul. The tractor is technically still my dad's, so I get to fix the tractor with some one else's pocketbook! Sweet!
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Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 9:16am |
PM Hubnut. He has had B tractors with all possible combinations. Get his take on the issues. I like the Artsway mower's belt setup more than the Woods belt setup. Artsway has two belts instead of one and easier to keep them on, IMO. I have a CA with Woods mower. My father in law has a B with Arts Way. The hand clutch on my CA is nice feature, but I have used my father in laws B without the hand clutch in light grass and it does OK too.
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Brian F(IL)
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Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 2:04pm |
The CA and Woods L-306 are a good combination. I've been running this outfit mowing about 3 acres of grass since 1987. Overhauled the engine and replaced 2nd gear at that time and it's still performing well. Does a better job than my more expensive John Deere garden tractor and 60" deck... and more comfortable to ride too.
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