Corn harvesting: Picker or Combine?
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Topic: Corn harvesting: Picker or Combine?
Posted By: MoPete
Subject: Corn harvesting: Picker or Combine?
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 12:16am
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I will be raising hogs so the corn will be for feed, not for sale. I have both bins and cribs available for storage. I have an auger but not an elevator. I will be saving back seed to plant so having some dried on the ear might be good and I can grind the ears cob and all. I have a small grain head on a JD45 but no corn head and I am told they are a bear to change out. So...should I be looking for a combine or a corn picker to harvest maybe a maximum of 100 acres of corn? I want to keep my equipment maintenance costs to a minimum so I am leaning toward a two row picker. I can likely pay the same price for that as for a 105 model (JD) combine I have been looking at. Suggestions? |
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 4:15am
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You could harvest corn with the grain head. Try to cut just below the ears but you will run a lot more of the corn stalks and leaves through the combine and probably flush more corn out the back. It might be more profitable to hire the harvest with modern equipment done in a day or two than to keep up with the repairs of rotting parts in an antique combine with limited parts availability. I don't think Deere keeps those parts on hand anymore, I know 3300 and 4400 parts are disappearing from the Shoup catalog as the more modern machines do a better job. 100 family combine parts are getting rare, but when used they wear and break too. Or fence the field and let the pigs do the harvest over the winter. They will eat stalks, leaves, and corn. Gerald J. |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 4:45am
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I wouldnt save the corn for seed to plant. It wont do any good. Hire it done and put it in the bin if you have a way to put air on it. ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 5:24am
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My concern with hiring it done is the actual getting it done as folks are having a hard enough time getting their own harvest in. Also, there is the issue of cross contamination of their type of corn (conventional, GMO), with the open pollinated, organic I grow. And you say don't save the seed, as it won't do any good...I use open pollinated Reid's Yellow Dent, which is an heirloom variety competitive in yield with most anything from Pioneer, etc according to the few field trials I have seen which have compared OP with hybrid. Hogging it down is an option I have considered, as is baling the stalks, ears and all. But that presents me with management issues, also. Mainly that I need to gather them towards the house for access to water and electricity to keep water thawed, etc. My plan, as well, is to keep the feed in storage ahead of the hogs, if that makes sense. Bottom line is I think I need the availability of harvesting equipment. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 6:11am
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I am old fashioned and I still like ear corn. The advantage of ear corn is no drying costs. Put it in the crib and take it out when you are ready to grind. The disadvantages are that ear corn is a lot more work. It obviously doesn't flow well, so there is a lot more labor involved in the operation. Pickers, with husking beds, are getting hard to find. Shelled corn is much easier to handle, but it has to be dried. Transportation and drying costs can add up quickly, if it has to be transported off the farm for drying. Have you thought of harvesting high moisture ear corn with a forage harvester with a snapper head and a recutter screen and storing it in an Ag Bag? I know there is a lot more trash in the corn, but I can't see why it wouldn't work well for hogs. |
Posted By: Johnwilson_osf
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 6:28am
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MoPete, I pick with a NI 2 row, and run corn with our F2. I agree with the previous post that the ear corn can dry on its own in the crib. We then grind that for our cattle and horses. However we let some corn stay in the field as long as possible so it can dry down naturally, as we have no drying facility on the farm. We grind this for the pig feed to get the right protein contents. My FIL is old fashioned, so ear corn gets ground for cows and horses, and shell corn gets ground for pigs and chickens. It seems to work for us. But I am patient enough to finish the harvest late....Still have 40 acres out. ------------- Allis Express: Eastern PA on Rt 80 8050, 8010, 6080, 190, D14, DA 6035, AA 6690, 5650, Gleaner F2 |
Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 6:48am
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I still pick some. If you decide to pick make sure you have some place that will buy your extra. ------------- Life is simpler when you plow around the stump. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 6:51am
The extra labor is not too much of an issue as I am doing so few acres. But tell me more about the husking beds. I am not familiar with that.
I think that would be very cost prohibitive for me, though likely a good option if I were planning for more acres across which to spread the cost. |
WF owner wrote:Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 6:58am
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 7:04am
How long will it keep in a crib? That's definitely an issue although I suppose I could just buy more feeder pigs if I had extra. I really do want the feed ahead of the hogs. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 7:08am
Never heard of that and I will definitely experiment with that. Thanks. |
Posted By: Johnwilson_osf
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 4:42pm
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Corn will last a while in the crib. We typically go through two cribs a year. They are refilled each fall. However, last year, we took corn out of a neighbors crib, that had been there three years. The outside had been picked over good by the birds, but the inside was a clean and yellow as the day we picked it. ------------- Allis Express: Eastern PA on Rt 80 8050, 8010, 6080, 190, D14, DA 6035, AA 6690, 5650, Gleaner F2 |
Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 7:10pm
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NI pull type corn picker (so you don't tie up a tractor forever). It will store indefinitely if you have a good roof on your crib and pick it below 20% ------------- Thanks Most Bad Government has grown out of Too Much Government- Thomas Jefferson |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 7:23pm
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where in MO are you? What is your budget? Do you mind if the combine is a gasser? I personally would keep an eye out for a good Gleaner machine, the 105 seemed a little crude in my opinion. ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 7:32pm
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DO NOT USE BIN RUN SEED OR OPEN POLLINATED SEED! Even a close out non GMO will out yeild either other option. You would be better off calling a few seed dealers and asking for their cheapest seed in your maturiy. Ear corn is ok if you do 10-20 acres 100 would get old quick. When my grandfather farmed he would pic two wagons first thing in the morning after milking. He then would slowly unload them to make sure he got every husk. In Missouri you should be able to get corn pretty dry in the field. My thoughts are get some sort F or K 100 acres with a K was not the end off the world. I have learned that the cheapest initial option can cost more very quickly. Hogs don't really like the extra ruffage from the cobs either. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: LSilseth
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 7:59pm
| 100 acres of corn to pick is a lot. We do 10 acres with a one row picker and it takes two days to do:) |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 8:01pm
| I am in ne Mo, in Knox County and I prefer gas. There is a 105 a quarter mile from me I could get for $750 more or less, ready to change fluids and shell corn. I also looked at two JD270 2 row pickers at the same place. Terrible shape. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 8:05pm
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 8:10pm
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 8:18pm
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Posted By: LSilseth
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 8:21pm
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If we had a two row I would do up to 50 acres but not 100. I hope you find what you are looking for. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 8:46pm
| Thanks. I do too. |
Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 8:56pm
| Mounting and dismounting difficulty all depends on make and model of picker and tractor. With a 2 row picker expect to do anywhere from 1 to 3 acres an hour depending on conditions. I enjoy picking ear corn but if you're using a mounted picker its a dirty job. |
Posted By: bobkyllo
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 9:35pm
| get a pull type picker if you are going that route. or a self propelled. you can still get most parts for the new idea pickers i know. the other thing to think about is to buy multiple of the same model so you will have parts. |
Posted By: Harvey/pa
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 10:20pm
| I love to pick corn, I have a New Idea 2 row narrow picker (326) but don't pick much anymore. I would stay away from a mounted picker, They are wide row pickers and in case of problems or too much corn you might have a problem finding a wide head combine to shell the remainder if needed. The last couple of mounted pickers in the area stay on the tractor year round and as stated they are very dirty. I've had 4 New Idea pickers and 2 Olivers since the late 70's, the Olivers picked cleaner and shelled less but parts were harder to find. HTH...Harvey |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2014 at 10:36pm
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Go with a pull type corn picker for now. If you have too much earn corn, just rig up a gravity wagon that feeds your JD45 combine. That way you could shell the excess. You could bin it or haul it away. If you are patient, you may find an older 2 or 3 row corn head & combine package deal at auction?? They usually go cheap around here. How good does the Reid's Yellow Dent stand through storms during late fall & winter?? |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 1:15am
| OP corn is really making a comeback! I think there is a large dealer in MO for it as there are others across the country! they are trying to get away from Monsanto! and I think there is a pull type picker coming up at auction this week....i'm thinking in KS, will try to find it and let ya'll know! oh...and I've been thinkin bouts the OP corn too for this year! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 1:25am
| o-k...found it...it's the jan 21st 2015 sale on BIGIRON.com...pics and descriptions under "harvest equipment"...3 dif units 2 pull type and one mounted with tractor. at Topeka, Ks. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 5:25am
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 5:29am
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 5:46am
Hmmm...good point. Another poster mentioned using the grain head on my combine. Thoughts?
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:13am
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I would like to see 20 acres a day with a pull type picker. What is the logic with OP seed? Dry down isn't as good and stalk strength sucks. Uncle did it one bag once. I question your motive are you in to this to be like dad or grandpa and get the nostalgia or as a business venture? ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:15am
D'oh! And that is why coming is here is such a good use of precious time. Hadn't even considered that.
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:24am
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:26am
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:32am
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Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 7:00am
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You could do 20 acres a day with a 2 row, but you would hustling and you better not have any break downs. Pick some, shell the rest. Around here the local grain elevators wont buy ear corn anymore. It will store for a long time, but dont put more in a crib with out emptying it first. If you refill with out emptying you end up with a bad rat infestation. I usually like to pick between 22-25 percent moister. Another concern is finding a corn that will pick with acceptable shelling loss. Most of the modern corn shells to easy to pick nice. Just my 2 cents. ------------- Life is simpler when you plow around the stump. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 7:17am
Fair enough. That gives me a benchmark.
I think I would get hurt badly trying to take corn to the elevator or even feeding out in competition with confinement operations. I am shooting for a specific niche market.
Mmm...good advice there.
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 9:11am
| you asked about the jd 227 picker....they are easy to take off and put on, but are a tinny picker, don't harvest as well as other brand pickers, and create a lot of shelled corn in the loads, the jd 327 picker was better but are hard to find. the 227 picker caused a lot of fires on the tractors too. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 9:24am
What does that mean?
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Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 10:50am
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If you want to go the mounted picker route, look for an IH picker on an M or later tractor. Preferably the 2MH, 2 ME pickers or later. Like others have said, a NI pull type is probably your best choice for a lot of reasons. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 10:59am
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Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 2:51pm
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There is a Gleaner "G" gasoline hydro in NE KS or SE NE on craigslist. kinda rare configuration, but parts would still be easy to get. Comes with both heads for 2500. ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 3:04pm
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The Red Rock Threshers club does ear picking each year, but I have to wonder how much yield there is in bin run corn? The guys say modern varieties of corn tend to overwhelm old machinery. Would bin run yield 50 bu to the acre? When it comes to shelling, are there any clubs in the area that would do it for a fun club day? That might be a solution to one bottleneck. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 3:53pm
Probably not in the regular grain bin. If however, you are growing open pollinated corn, like Pete is talking about, it looks like you can expect anything from 75-150 bush/acre. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:17pm
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:45pm
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Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:47pm
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 9:29pm
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It would be interesting how much increased harvest loss and storage loss from ear corn? Anyone have any plot data on open pollinated corn? How much additional bean meal is needed to off set the ruffage from the cobs? ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 9:50pm
Growing up in the good corn country of SW Minnesota (Redwood county), tractors were split about 40% each, JD and IH (the last 20% were everything else). There were a lot of the mounted IH pickers on the IH tractors, but most of the JD people seemed to use NI pull pickers (or even mounted NI pickers). I figured there most have been a reason for the lack of JD mounted pickers, but I've never been around one. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 10:06pm
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 10:20pm
| when I said tinney...I used the wrong word...should have been "flimsy" and about the fires...the tractors would overheat and the ear corn hair would get in around the engine a lot! if you come across an old 2MH IH picker...they are harder to mount and dismount, and you have to grease every zerk after about 8 hrs of run time, and there's a zillion of them on that picker...takes just a little more than one grease tube each time. those pickers really did the best job of picking over all of them, but you really needed to mount it and leave it on. I still think AC had the best picker, being low profile and easier to mount/dismount, and they did a nice job of picking too, but left a lot of the shucks on the ears. |
Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 11:03pm
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To speak to Shameless point about easy on/off for Allis cornpickers that werr mounted.... In the instance of the model 33 picker for WD/WCs...They actually I believe take alot of time to mount on the tractor. Now, If it were given that the picker and tractor were in A+ Shape and condition maybe so on speed of changeover. But not so with these units that are older now. It took dad and I months afterwork and weekends to prep the picker and rebuild the WD to work for our Allis mounted 33 cornpicker. It will stay on the tractor now but alotta work on this older equipment. I agree with the others, a 2 row New Idea with husking bed could be a good choice. ------------- Galatians 5:22-24 "I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
Posted By: rw
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 11:31pm
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One time and one time only I planted corn out of the bin. Planted it late and thick as cover crop on about two or three acres that had been used as a feeding area for round bales. I even split the 30" rows and then put some more on at an angle. Wanted it thick. So likely there were 180000 seeds at least per acre. No fertilizer except the manure and hay waste, no herbicide except round up before no tilling the seed. Intended to let it mature and then dry down to clear the nitrate potential, then roll it up, didn't expect it to have an ear. Just wanted something cheap to plant, and green through the summer, able to outgrow and shade out the weeds and make some junk to bale for the cows. Well the deer really liked it for that summer, and it did end up setting ears with corn grain on them. Mowed some but left windrows of ears and corn after the baler went through. Deer liked that too. Ended up running it through the corn head on the combine. Fine little stalks wiggled in pretty well and it made about half or more bushels per acre of what the hybrid corn grown in rows, with herbicide, nitrogen, starter fertilizer etc. Ended up baling those stalks and they were OK. Better than weeds, but not by much especially for the effort on that little dab and the corn was dirty to run through the air units. Chaff and stuff plugged up the holes in the plates. Just always wanted to try it for cover in those kind of places. Have not done it since, but if I did, I believe I would disk then broadcast the seed and disk again to sow it and probably return the growth to soil with the disk then grow something the cows could graze safely into the fall like oats and turnips.rw |
Posted By: MoPete
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 8:52am
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It is very difficult to make a comparison between op seed grown under true organic conditions and hybrids grown in conventional systems. To begin, the dataset is too small. But I do think most consider that "bin run" and open pollinated are synonymous or at least equivalent and that just can't be the case. Naturally, the offspring of a hybrid is not going to have the traits of the parent plant, but will throwback to one or the other of the varieties from which the hybrid was produced. So you may wind up with a good yield but no stalk or rooting strength. Or poor yield but good natural resistance to root worm. Or whatever. An op, on the other hand, is the result of decades or centuries of natural selection. If the same effort had been put into improving op varieties as has been expended into hybridization, who knows what we might have available? In the case of an organic livestock producer whose business model depends on being able to assure customers of the integrity of their product I think it the best solution even if sacrificing potential yield. The most important factor in organic methods is weed and pest control. The choice of seed, while obviously important, is down the list relative to other management considerations. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 10:11am
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I haven't planted any open pollinated corn but when I've had volunteer hybrid corn in my beans, it has been sterile. There were ears but few or no kernels on those nubbin ears.It might have been because they were generally single plants only a dozen or so to the acre, but even in clumps there were only a few kernels per ear. Sometimes when walking the beans I figured pulling the corn did more damage to the beans than leaving it. I know Albert Lea Seedhouse (www.alseed.com) sells open pollinated corn in several varieties and shows yield data in their catalog, at least relative yield data. They won't guarantee 100% pure organic. There was a seed company in eastern Iowa that had been selling organic open pollinated seed for nearly a century that was having a severe problem with blowing pollen from neighboring GMO fields contaminating their seed. Corn pollen can blow miles so it may come down to having to grow none GMO seed inside greenhouses or on center city roof tops miles from any other corn fields. Gerald J. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 11:40am
What I have read about it, the protein content is HIGHER in open pollinated corn. You wouldn't have to feed the cob with it, just because you store it in a crib. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: tim 52160
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 12:23am
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There is an OP corn site on face book . Lots of guys working with OP corn now. Greenfield 114 is one . I want to try some Henry Moore which is high in lysine also so it would be a good hog feed.THere is a good corn picker site online too.The newest NI mounted pickers have a sub frame which makes it easier to mount. The newest style NI pull types have anough angle on the snapping rolls to break off fewer stalks and shell less in the row.On my original farm i used my NI #7 and figured according to the way i was taught to measure it that i lost 14-16 BPA in the rows . The newer NI 325 with 8 roll husking bed broke off fewer stalks and paid for itself in a couple of years through shelled corn savings. You can use or hire someone with a combine to open up the field. Or have a field day and invite guys with pickers. As you will find out on the picker site guys love to get their pickers out and pick a good size field for someone.Some great pics of guys with old pickers mounted,2 rows,1 row and 2 row pulltypes. The only problem is there is so many guys some from what i under stand could only pick in one direction then dead head back but all had fun.One guy had 3-5 oliver pickers there. Some nice restored and maintained pickers. Also sometime guys will have shellers so you can have shelled corn too.My biggest worry with the dang GMO contamination is they can come in and confiscate your crop without any proof that it was contaminated. If you develop you're own line of op corn for your farm they can wait till they want to put small guys under, accuse your crop of contamination then take it and never have to pay you for your effort and time developing the genetics. Some real good facebook and other sites on raising op corn , direct marketing hogs, and some guys creating their own special breeds or crosses of hogs to sell.Ive heard bin run hybrid corn will after a few years go back to its parent lines while OP corn you can continually improve. Most guys used to wait till corn was well below 30% moisture to pick. I started if i recollect 26 % on down.. Below 20% you will get more shelling on the snapping rolls.I think the shorter season hybrid corn will work better as picker corn as it was developed back then for picking and the newer longer season for shelling.Sorry so long a post but this is a couple of my favorite subjects too! =) |
Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 8:04am
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Tim, would you post the link to the corn picker site?
Thanks,
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 11:14am
| Question on your JD 45 combine. What kind of cylinder does it have, spike or rasp? If you have a spike, you'll end up getting kernel and cob anyway! LOL |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 12:00pm
http://cornpickers.activeboard.com/" rel="nofollow - http://cornpickers.activeboard.com/ ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: tim 52160
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 12:29pm
| ithink i've got this figgered out! lol http://cornpickers.activeboard.com/http://cornpickers.activeboard.com/ |
Posted By: tim 52160
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 12:29pm
| I posted it twice and Yaz got her too. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 2:06pm
| Since your grinding for feed why would you want to pick ear corn. When I was a kid every week I had to shell ear corn grind and mix feed. Cows pigs and chickens. It was an extra step that took a lot of time. I harvested 500 acres with an all crop head on a JD 7720. Went fast put the corn right in the bin and don't touch it till I grind feed. I just pull the grinder mixer up to the bin auger the pellets in drive over to the corn bin auger it it to the grinder and grind and mix at the same time. In an hour I have 500 bushels of mixed feed. Just park the mixer back by the feed bunks and I'm good for another couple weeks. Harvesting with an all crop you just have to keep an eye on the header and keep the cutter just below the ears. If you run too much stalk it will plug the feeder if you crowd it to much. |
Posted By: ALHO
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 2:41pm
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for get corn picker shell the corn you will lose corn in field with the snapping rolls on corn picker then you will lose corn every time you handle it its called FLY LOSS then putting ear corn in crib can bring in rats the corn that we plant now a days drys down faster then it did 30 years ago I started farming on my own in 1976 my two cents ------------- CA WD D15 D15 series2 D17 D17 185 Gleaner R52 D10 D12 D14 |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 10:02pm
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Last corn I grew I picked in the ear and cribbed it. I had 5 black Angus Holstein cross calves to feed out and the ground ear corn is about the best way to finish a calf. IMO I had the guy at the locker tell me that was the BEST marbled meat he had ever seen. It was good eatin too. Now for hogs, I would be tempted to shell it and put it in the bin. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 10:55pm
X2 That's the way my Dad fed out 50 or so steers every year back in the 60's------ground ear corn with a little hay. The last month or so in the feed lot, he would also add some shell corn to the ear corn as it went into the grinder/mixer batch. The cattle would be sold out of his lot to buyers looking for restaurant grade beef and were sold for a premium over the price in St. Paul. Of course, that was when St. Paul still had the stock yards. He used to butcher one and sell half to the butcher and keep half for our own use. I very rarely have found steak as tasty since. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |