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Topic: 190 spins out easy?
Posted By: wood walker
Subject: 190 spins out easy?
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2010 at 10:01pm
Have a xt with a 500 series loader, Seems to spin out real easy.  Has weights on the wheels, but no fluid.  Also the rim on the left is spun out.  What do you all think, just need fluid.  I figure the weights should be enough.  It does it empty and with material in the bucket.  Any help appretiated



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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2010 at 12:46am
Fluid in the rear and you won't think your on the same tractor. Hang something heavy on the 3pt like a bale spear with a bale on it and see what a difference it makes.

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Posted By: Mark D.
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2010 at 3:56am
We used to have a 2wd MF with a loader.  You couldnt do anything with it unless you hit the positive traction lever.  We also have a 190 that I grew up using on the farm (now puller) and can tell you that besides the live PTO, the one thing that would make that thing a whole new tractor would also be a locked-positive rear.  I could only dream about the crap that thing would pull through with that.
 
But......   really, your only option is more weight and a running start!  lol 


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Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 7:35am
Originally posted by wood walker wood walker wrote:

Have a xt with a 500 series loader, Seems to spin out real easy.  Has weights on the wheels, but no fluid.  Also the rim on the left is spun out.  What do you all think, just need fluid.  I figure the weights should be enough.  It does it empty and with material in the bucket.  Any help appretiated
 
Load the tires.  That will add a lot of weight on a 190.  You can go the easy route with water and 3 or 4 gallons of antifreeze per tire.  Not the 50/50 stuff.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 10:42am
Hey TexasAllis, you think it would work up here in the -40 below country with just 3or 4 gallons of antifreeze in with water in the wheels? 
 I would think that kind of mixture would be a little stiff, might take more like 10 gallons I would think.


Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 11:27am
Originally posted by JC(WI) JC(WI) wrote:

Hey TexasAllis, you think it would work up here in the -40 below country with just 3or 4 gallons of antifreeze in with water in the wheels? 
 I would think that kind of mixture would be a little stiff, might take more like 10 gallons I would think.
 
I dont know.  Missouri is about as far north as I would go with watered tires but I did look at an antifreeze chart and a 2 to 1 ratio is good to -40


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 12:40pm
If a guy wanted, he could stop at the local garage and ask them for used antifreeze. Collect enough to fill all the tires. They have to pay to have it hauled off. It will work in tires just as good as calchl, maybe not as heavy.

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Posted By: psnart45
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 12:41pm
Be careful with antifreeze in your tires.  It softens the rubber in the tubes and you'll get leaks, i've been told.


Posted By: KY
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 4:19pm
Alcohol is the best choice. It will not rust your rims or freeze. Thats what people around here put in new tractors , and replace calcium chloride with. Any farm tire dealer can get it.


Posted By: psnart45
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 4:23pm
I used a product called Rim Guard in mine.  Made from sugar beets.  No corrosion problems.  Looks like molasses.  Seems to work great.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 6:07pm
If you get a leak with a too potent antifreeze mix you might kill your dog.

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Posted By: jls
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 7:21pm
Ca is used cause it's heavy. My 190 has (according to the chart) almost 900 lbs PER TIRE! Takes a big and green round bale to equal that. Dad also loaded the left front tire so you could judge the draft when plowing. As far as rust, use good tubes and make sure the tire stems don't leak.



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