Custom wide fronts for pullers????
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Topic: Custom wide fronts for pullers????
Posted By: cotncrzy
Subject: Custom wide fronts for pullers????
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2014 at 9:07am
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Has anyone have any pics, thoughts, or comments on building a wide front for my WD Puller. I have access to a K gleaner combine axel, and a Case combine axel. I am lookin to loose 80 to 100 pounds, if not possible, not gona convert. I wanta go to alumimun wheels also, so please share the secret.... I have got two weeks to convert!!!! ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
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Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2014 at 12:48pm
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Not sure what you have now, but I can't imagine building a custom front much lighter than a stock WD front without making it out of aluminum. A stock narrow would be lighter than a stock wide, but if you want to stay wide... guess a bunch of fab work and you could get around the stock cast housing. Might even be able to keep the same gears. AaronSEIA |
Posted By: bigcountry48
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2014 at 1:07pm
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You might try adapting a b wide front to it, I've seen it done several times and with aluminum front wheels you should lose a good bit of weight. You can use a corvere steering box and control arm for the b front end I think, Samt on here pulls a wd45 diesel like that and he may be able to give you some pointers on how to do it. ------------- 1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45 |
Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2014 at 5:46pm
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Why do you need it done for two weeks ? Is there a pull coming up ? ------------- 190XT,D17and 7045 |
Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2014 at 6:54am
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Southern Nationals in Mississippi... December 4,5,6. ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2014 at 7:45am
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When we build a front axle I like to use rectangular tubing with bushing stock at each end of the correct diameter for the spindles. This allows use of the OEM spindles which will not break unless you have Bo Duke behind the wheel. It's also a nice, clean looking unit when finished. I have used combine axles in the past. For the time you spend making them fit you could build a nicer one from scratch. We use 2 X 6 X 3/16 on a 6500 - 7500 lb. tractor so I would assume you could use 1/8 tubing for a 3500 - 5000 lb. rig. To me your big weight savings is going to be how the axle connects to the fame rails. I assume your rules have some restrictions on what it all has to look like? Rack and pinion steering from a Vega or Pinto will do the steering for you. Good luck |
Posted By: allisanddodge
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2014 at 9:01pm
I Made one for a WC-should be the same. If you don't make one before Tunica, I'll tell you about it. I plan to be there Thurs. & Fri. I planned to go last year, but had to cancel because of icy roads in Mo. I'll have a WC named Purebred Allis & a WD45 w/ cornpicker sidecurtains on it. Maybe we can visit a while. PS. Good picture in Hook mag. 
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Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2014 at 6:37am
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Thx, allisanddodge. I have decided to wait on the wide front, we will be in Tunica late Wednesday afternoon to Sometime Friday, depending if we get the WC ready. If we do, we will pull Friday morning, if not we will leave sometime before lunch. ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2014 at 6:38am
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O.P.S., any pics? ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2014 at 8:26am
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I will take a look. If not I will try to get some. The axle itself is constructed similar to a 7000 series front axle only lighter / smaller of course. In the case of a WD it would look like a 7000 series axle installed backwards with the support (yoke?) rearward instead of frontward. I will see If I can find some photos. |
Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2014 at 9:29am
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This is a really quick sketch so don't make fun. It gives you an idea anyway of a front axle that pivots at the center. An even lighter weight version would be the same thing without the triangle support and brackets welded directly to the 2 X 6 X 1/8" rectangular tube that would bolt directly to the side frame rails. The bushing stock for the spindles should be angled to get the correct camber on your front wheels. uploads/8574/Axle.pdf" rel="nofollow - Axle.pdf The second file is a print of the support if you decide to go with a solid mount axle. It would surround the rectangular axle and be welded to it, then bolt to the side rails. 1/4" plate should suffice. Very simple, inexpensive, and light weight. uploads/8574/Axle_Support.pdf" rel="nofollow - Axle_Support.pdf You can make it to whatever dimensions you choose obviously. Hopefully my crude prints will help. Good luck |
Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2014 at 12:44pm
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THX.... ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2014 at 2:29pm
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I started one out of a 6T ronning gear that we narrowed up. Quit with the open class, so just kept the narrow under it. If I can get a pic of it between snow, I'll post it ------------- '40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie *ALLIS EXPRESS contact* I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!! |
Posted By: nborga87
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2014 at 2:18am
| i made one out of a farmall cub front axle and a ford pinto rack and pinion steering. i used 15x4 aluminum wheels from jegs. i was able to remove that whole cast front bolster. i have some pics on here of it in another thread here on the pulling forum. its the one that is for sale. |
Posted By: Sam T-Ga
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2014 at 3:42pm
| Does anyone know of a rack & pinion that would work behind the axle? Mustang- pinto is mounted in frt of axle. |
Posted By: Sam T-Ga
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2014 at 3:43pm
| I used B front end with gearbox from corvair on my wd45d |
Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2014 at 8:42pm
| Pinto rack will work on the back side of the axle. Vega rack and pinion is another option that a lot of folks use. |
Posted By: nborga87
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2014 at 11:31pm
| i used a pinto rack and pinion behind the axle. |