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Topic: 38's
Posted By: Charlie175
Subject: 38's
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 7:20am
A lot of local clubs will not allow 38's on WC/WD/D17 as they say it was a aftermarket add-on and not factory.
Does anyone have a copy of the parts book indicating that AC listed 38's wheels as a option?




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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD



Replies:
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 7:38am
Just look in ANY AC parts book. 36's were the option on a WC........38's on all others.


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 11:00am
Didn't high crops run 38's?

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 11:14am
Yes but when I point this out, the main comment back is then you need to have all the other high crop stuff on the tractor.

Trying to keep Allis down :)




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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 12:16pm
The thing is when you put 38's on an allis it makes them a different tractor. And harder to beat !!

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190XT,D17and 7045


Posted By: Bolivar Boy
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 10:12am
Anybody explain why 38's make more traction than a smaller tire ?



Posted By: mike a
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 4:07pm
yes,when the tires start to dig down,the next bar pulls  on tall tires.


Posted By: studer automotive
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 6:52pm
So dropping air pressure will sort of have the same result?

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a-c 185-d y/r cab turbo soon
99 f-250 7.3 4x4
86 mustang5.0 owned since 8/93              


Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 7:42pm
It's more foot print. Like 16.9x28 compared to 16.9x38. The 38 has more foot print and is a lil faster.

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190XT,D17and 7045


Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 8:34pm
Ok so on my wd iam running 18.4 26 which have a foot print of 242 sq inches and 15.5 38 has a 189 sq inch foot print acording to Firestone data book which is a aprox 30 % less but every body says the 38 s are the way to go anybody explain

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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 9:34pm
A tire width of 18.4 usually isn't allowed in Antique pulling......max width of 15.5's.


Posted By: studer automotive
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 7:06am
Yes I wanna here the debate on this as well?

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a-c 185-d y/r cab turbo soon
99 f-250 7.3 4x4
86 mustang5.0 owned since 8/93              


Posted By: mattb
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 9:29am
taller tire has more tire contacting the ground in front and behind the center of tire has less of a hole to crawl out of when the tire starts to bite in.


Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 3:58pm
If its the same width yes   if the contact area is the same which would have the advantage short and wideer would be getting more new bite where tall skinnie bites more times in the same loose hole and this is not a discussion about rules .   

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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul


Posted By: mattb
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 10:09am
hardly any acs I pull against run 28s anymore around here 99% of the time they just don't do very well


Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 4:41pm
Matt is that because you cant run wider short tires and yea if you can only run 15 innc wide yea a 38 will def pull better than a 28 up here we got tired of arguing about what size went on what so our rules are simple black round made out of rubber not cut 18 incc max width under 9000 lbs

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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul


Posted By: mattb
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2014 at 8:31am
around here tire size is 15.5 by 38 or 16.9 by 28 most guys that run short tires use 16.9 by 26 and they usually don't come close. have pulled against a guy with 16.9 by 30s and hes pretty tough so if your gonna run short tires id go with as wide as you can


Posted By: Fields
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 11:18pm
Here is the page out of the manual. And the puller I was going to buy.


Posted By: nborga87
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2014 at 9:30pm
The taller tire is gonna have more ground speed.


Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 11:20am
When we started we were able to run 18-4/28 but had to carry the manual that showed they were available (rice tires)even though they were 26's. Then we got tired of getting whooped on went to 15.5/38's. But there was one track we walked away from everybody when we had the 28's on but I know we weren't competing.



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