Moving big bales with a 170?
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Topic: Moving big bales with a 170?
Posted By: duster1979
Subject: Moving big bales with a 170?
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 10:57am
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Would an AC One-Seventy gas have enough poop in it's pants to move big round bales of hay with a bale stabber? My wife uses a bigger tractor with an unroller to feed hay for her folks, but this system is pretty inefficient for moving bales around. I aked why they didn't put the stabber on the AC for this and she didn't know. Any feedback is appreciated, thanks! |
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Posted By: duster1979
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 11:02am
| Forgot to mention, the bales weigh about a ton. |
Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 11:07am
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are you talking on a loader or three point, I would think it would do it on solid ground, I have seen people moving rounds with loaders on WDs but it was summer on dry ground (no snow and ice) ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: duster1979
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 11:12am
| I was talking about moving bales with the 3-point, but would also be curious to know if the loader would handle it. They occasionally sell hay and they could charge more if she could load it on a trailer for the buyers. |
Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 11:14am
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It would depend on the condition of the hydraulic system and you would need some counter weight ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: bauerd44
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 11:16am
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I use a 175 (just a newer version) to move big bales. I have hauled 2000 pounders with the 3 point hitch and I now move 2 1000 pounders, one on the loader and one on the rear. I have picked up a 2000 pounder with the front loader but it was on level ground and for a short distance. I have fluid in the rear tires and weights on the wheels.
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Posted By: wood walker
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 11:39am
| I have a 170 gas and use a three point to move 5x5 bales with no problem in the mud, snow and uneven ground. my dad uses a d17 with a front loader with no trouble. |
Posted By: PeteMN
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 12:03pm
| I don't think the front end is strong enough to load one ton bales with a loader. Sure you could probably do it for a while, but eventually you'll break a spindle or the front frame under the tractor. Front weights are advisable if you are going to lift one ton bales on the 3pt. I move 5x6 bales with a 3pt spear on a 185. I should put front weights on it, as it gets a little light on the front end with the heavy bales. I used to use a 190XT with a schwartz loader, but did break a spindle and later broke the pivot frame also. Wish they had a heavier front frame, guess they do...its called a 220 front end. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 12:10pm
I use a JD MX8 rotary mower on the back of my 175D. It weighs almost 1800# and I have front suitcase weights plus 9.5L15's loaded with CaCl. I still can't go up hills with the mower raised....and have to load it backwards on my trailer.
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 12:17pm
Here is a poor looking scanned picture of 170 with Globman loader and Lindsay bale forks. Bales are FULL 5X6.
Moved silage bales on rear bale fork that would raise the front end off the ground unless I had a reguler bale on front forks.
Have hauled bales miles and miles for 30+ years on this tractor. Keep your front wheel bearings greased.
This loader never had any front tilt cylinders on it, bale fork was just chained at top end. - just had to learn how to put the second layer of bales up on wagon differently.
But I would caution everybody to have a strong enough guard on the loader that would stop a bale from rolling backwards down loader arms and killing the operator. (heard of too many deaths that way over the years.)
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Posted By: Andrew(southernIL)
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 12:56pm
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Moved 2000 pounders with the 175 today. The front end gets light but the 3 point has no problem lifting.
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Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 6:58am
| I move 5X6 bales with my D-17 3pt up hill down hill hard ground or mud with no problems. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 10:37pm
D-17 SIV moving 1500 lb rd bale
Have moved 1500 lb. bales with loader on front of WD45 ,but would not recommend,don't think the front end was going to last for long.Front end is a little light but hydraulics seem to be plenty strong.don't know how it would do with 2000 lb. bales. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: diamondc
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2010 at 10:07pm
| I have used a d17 to unload 4x4x8 square bales (1 ton) off trailer but I put lots of calcium in back, carefull for holes. I did break front end once |