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Topic: Whats a 920 Diesel worth?
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Subject: Whats a 920 Diesel worth?
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2010 at 7:37pm
I have a chance to buy a 920 diesel lawn tractor.  It has a deck, but no other attachments.  Supposedly runs, but sounds like the starter is probably out of it.  Thats all I know.  It looks pretty decent, tires dont look bad, sheet metal is straight.  What is a fair price?
Thanks



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Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2010 at 7:50pm
I saw one on for sale for $3200 a while ago.  I don't know if it ever sold. Only attachment was the mower deck. Better check on the price of that starter before you make a offer.  That brand of engine powered the first Concord air seed carts. Last price on those starters was $1700. Only available from Italy. I don't know if the Lawn mower is that bad also.


Posted By: kip in cny
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2010 at 8:05pm
I bought mine last year for 1500 its the best looking one I ever seen. All it has is a mower deck.    Parts are hard and $$$$$  I need a voltage regulator and they are 3 to 500  depends where your looking.  But in that shape try a few hunderd and see if they like the offer.  kip

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Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2010 at 8:27pm
Adam, If it's the one on craigslist, he's advertised it in AR, OK, and MO.  $1100 looks high to me. If it were near, and $500, I'd own it, but withhim advertising it that far apart, who knows where it is????

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Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2010 at 8:36pm
Jim - Thats it. 
The story is a bit sketchy to me, or I might have to do something about it.  When I factor in what Nathan said about the starter price, that probably blows me out of the water as well.  Thanks guys!


Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2010 at 8:47pm
You can get the starters rebuilt fairly reasonable.  I bought one about 12 years ago and had a local electric motor guy rebuild it for something like $50.  But, If you can't hear it run it's a little sketchy.  I ran mine for awhile on one cylinder.  They are loud and tend to smoke quite a bit but that may just be my engine.  I'm not sure if you can get parts or not but the engine's are lombardini's. 

They used to have a website www.lombardiniusa.com  Now when you type that it it directs you to Kohler.  I'm not sure what is up with that?  Perhaps Kohler bought them out?   I see Kohler now offers both liquid and air cooled diesels so maybe the air ones are the lombardinis?


Posted By: mnman
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2013 at 5:33pm
I live in Minnesota and have an Allis Chalmers 920 Diesel for sale. The only attachment it has is a 48 inch mower deck. It runs but needs some work. I can pictures if you contact me.


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2013 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by kip in cny kip in cny wrote:

I bought mine last year for 1500 its the best looking one I ever seen. All it has is a mower deck.    Parts are hard and $$$$$  I need a voltage regulator and they are 3 to 500  depends where your looking.  But in that shape try a few hunderd and see if they like the offer.  kip



Wiggle the connector on the voltage regulator.  Mine didn't charge when I got it, but when I checked to see if it was on tight, it started charging.  Every once in a while, I have to push it back on, when I notice its not charging.


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B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
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Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2013 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by Nathan (SD) Nathan (SD) wrote:

I saw one on for sale for $3200 a while ago.  I don't know if it ever sold. Only attachment was the mower deck. Better check on the price of that starter before you make a offer.  That brand of engine powered the first Concord air seed carts. Last price on those starters was $1700. Only available from Italy. I don't know if the Lawn mower is that bad also.


Is that the one that was in SE Minnesota??  I saw that on Craigslist (and was near me), but I wasn't even interested in looking at it for that price.

I bought mine (Simplicity 7790) several years ago for $300 but it was burning oil and smoking bad.  An engine tear-down revealed plugged up cooling fins and oil control rings that were smooth as a baby's butt from being run hot.  New rings ($200) and a burnish of the cylinders and I was back in business.  I have also spent $200 on having the injectors checked and one rebuilt.

A good clean gas 917 is maybe worth $600-$900.  A 920 in good condition would be worth another $200-$500.  The trick is finding one that doesn't need work--------parts are very expensive.


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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2013 at 5:53pm
Originally posted by mnman mnman wrote:

I live in Minnesota and have an Allis Chalmers 920 Diesel for sale. The only attachment it has is a 48 inch mower deck. It runs but needs some work. I can pictures if you contact me.


What kind of work???


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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2013 at 5:54pm
Originally posted by Byron WC in SW Wi Byron WC in SW Wi wrote:

You can get the starters rebuilt fairly reasonable.  I bought one about 12 years ago and had a local electric motor guy rebuild it for something like $50.  But, If you can't hear it run it's a little sketchy.  I ran mine for awhile on one cylinder.  They are loud and tend to smoke quite a bit but that may just be my engine.  I'm not sure if you can get parts or not but the engine's are lombardini's. 

They used to have a website www.lombardiniusa.com  Now when you type that it it directs you to Kohler.  I'm not sure what is up with that?  Perhaps Kohler bought them out?   I see Kohler now offers both liquid and air cooled diesels so maybe the air ones are the lombardinis?


Yes, Kohler either bought them or the distribution rights for North America.


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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: mnman
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2013 at 6:10pm
It burns some oil and I believe it needs new head gaskets because it looks like it leaks oil out of them.


Posted By: Matt Tallant
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2013 at 7:22pm
People used them to mow with and never cleaned the cooling fins on the engine which caused them to overheat.Very common for them.Garden tractor market is soft right now.There are plenty of them left I wouldnt jump on the first one I see.JMO


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2013 at 3:49am
paid $2500. for mine ona farm sale, only had the mower deck on it, it runs awsum...and Pruitt In Omaha,ne has and can get any parts for them (engine parts in mean) it's a lambardini diesel!


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2013 at 7:37am
Some of our older arrow boards at work (highway maintenance) had lambardini diesel engines (that ran a generator to charge the batteries). There may be some engines/parts available on some of these since arrowboards have (mostly) been replaced by solar powered variable message boards.


Posted By: frochevy
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2015 at 9:27pm
Hello
I hate to hijack this post but it's a few years old. .. anyhow I'm looking at a 920 on craigslist. The owner removed the diesel and re-powered it with an 18hp kohler gas engine. The mower comes with mower deck, snow blower, and rear tiller as well as the "worn out" original diesel engine and he's asking $650. Is this mower worth that?

Thanks


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2015 at 10:07pm
The attachments are likely worth $500 by themselves.  If the hydro and installed engine are OK, it's a good deal.

Be sure to include the "worn out" diesel.  The parts on that may be worth the asking price.  Better it, it may just need rings.  Mine was smoking really bad and using oil when I bought it cheap.  A set of rings was all it needed.


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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: frochevy
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2015 at 9:39pm
Thank you for the info. Going to try and go look at it tomorrow evening.


Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2015 at 10:24pm

Did you buy it?


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Mark

B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel,
GTH-L Simplicity

Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2015 at 11:33pm
sorry I miss spelled the name of the engine, its: lombardini.



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