Dead weights
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Topic: Dead weights
Posted By: Charlie175
Subject: Dead weights
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2014 at 9:09pm
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I guess I don't understand them [TUBE]http://youtu.be/li_HZhOWuk4[/TUBE] ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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Posted By: patrickmull
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2014 at 9:26pm
| that don't look safe |
Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2014 at 10:45pm
| Its easy to read the track. lol |
Posted By: patrickmull
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2014 at 6:07am
| I am not sure but does that front tire ever turn |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2014 at 7:36am
Thats good for it  ------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
Posted By: Allis-chalmers wd45
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2014 at 7:37am
| Damn that's a good way to destroy a drive train! |
Posted By: big dale
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2014 at 7:42am
That's taking "drive it like you stole it" to a whole new level!!! 
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2014 at 10:36am
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I think, if you talk to most of us oldtimers, this is how tractor pulling started in our areas. My first time was in 1972 in the 9900 lb class on a dead weight (stone) boat on my Dad's 180. 20' was a full pull and you got 2 hooks to go the 20'. There were over a dozen tractor's in my class and I got 2nd. I was immediately hooked (no pun intended!).I don't remember anyone getting that much of a chance to get the boat moving, but we were talking about field stock farm tractors at that point. In 1973, we started pulling on the weight transfer sled. It was definitely the roots of tractor pulling and usually started over a neighbor rivalry of "my tractor can pull more than your tractor...) |
Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2014 at 10:21am
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The annual tractor show at Sunnycrest Orchards in Sharon Springs NY started out with the old stone boat dead weight pull. It was that way a few years before it got big enough to get a transfer sled. We used to go full track length(if you could) pulling both directions. Don't recall anyone ever using this technique though. ------------- "My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic" |
Posted By: pohlman249
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2014 at 10:25am
| Around hear we started with step on sleads and believe that lasted into the late 80`s. It ended. With a puller getting his ankle roled under the pan... dead weights make absolutely no sense to me.. |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2014 at 11:52am
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Hey, who wants to loan that Guy a tractor! The scrapyard is in his future! ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2014 at 1:05pm
| It discrimenates skinny people. |
Posted By: Dugalech Farms
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 1:56pm
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I am the owner of that D17. We are from Michigan that is a high popular sport here. There are pull all over hear. Yes it is hard on the tractor. The only thing I have broke is Right and left hand final drives only because I had 24.5-32 on it and tried bouncing it. There are two ways to get the boat moving one is to bounce the other is to do a high flying wheely then bring it back down so u will brake the boat loose. We pull up words of 700%. If you guy are intested in seeing more of this pulling go to MMOGTA.org or on facebook at Michigan cement pullers. Thanks uploads/9046/179101_381076271952694_549904047_n.jpg" rel="nofollow - 179101_381076271952694_549904047_n.jpg |
Posted By: Dugalech Farms
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 2:02pm
| Here some more PIC uploads/9046/544365_2979613771789_582840052_n.jpg" rel="nofollow - 544365_2979613771789_582840052_n.jpg uploads/9046/407240_3297527244115_917754819_n.jpg" rel="nofollow - 407240_3297527244115_917754819_n.jpg uploads/9046/pulling_pic.jpg" rel="nofollow - pulling_pic.jpg |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 3:16pm
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Thanks for coming on DF! ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: farmtoybuilder
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 3:31pm
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They still do some around here on dirt. And even some dead wt. pulls for garden tractors. It gets interesting when weight gets high! The begining of tractor pulls. ------------- 5 different TT-10's,5 TT-18's Terra Tigers,B-10,2 B-207's,B-110,2 B-112's,HB-112,B-210,B-212,HB212,2 Scamp's & Homilite T-10. Still hunting NICE HB-112 & anything Terra Tiger & Trailers for them. |
Posted By: Peterson
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2014 at 4:49pm
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Only thing I think that's interesting about that pull is the D17 with the 200 4 cyl. from a 6000 series! lol ------------- 7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2 |
Posted By: Ken(MI)
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2014 at 3:54pm
| As mentioned above, it's very popular here in Michigan. Technique and being able to read the track and tractor balance is very critical, it sorts out the talent and wannabes in a hurry and the video of the above is not the way to do it. It's not hard on the tractor, when I was pulling dead weight a lot, we would do at least two pulls every week for most of the season and more during fair time, pulling two or three weight classes at each pull, and I never broke anything, and one clutch lasted seven years. The big deal here is that you have to get it moving before you can pull it, there is no gradual increase in weight like a transfer sled has. Once you think you have it all dialed in, then make the switch to steel and start all over again, it's a real art to be smooth on Tip-Toe steel when the percentage starts to approach 250 or 300 %. |
Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 12:31am
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I'd think an old case-o-matic slip'n slip s'more would rule this type of event.....or maybe it'd never move. ------------- "see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet" |
Posted By: Dugalech Farms
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 9:46am
Ken from MI You are wrong that is how you make the boat move on cement. How dirt is a different thing. Cement take a lot of horsepower rough rides and maybe alittle screw loose behide the wheel. I have pull all different kinds of pulling. And cement is by fare the most fun pulling you will ever do. Theres alittle steel wheels for you. |
Posted By: RWR
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 8:43pm
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I think I saw Mike nein on you tube doing some dead weight pulling and it looked like he was doing some good pulling |
Posted By: graveyard
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 11:59am
| In our part of ky that is 90 % of our pulls. We do it on dirt my D17 hangs in their pretty well with the old deeres and farmalls |
Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 12:05pm
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And that picture is why our club requires wheelie bars on EVERY tractor no bars no hook .... if I was flaging you would have already been shut down ------------- You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul |
Posted By: RWR
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2014 at 8:58pm
| what is the best tires to use |