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Topic: painting suggestions

Posted By: JM
Subject: painting suggestions
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2010 at 10:16am

I want to paint up the old WC, would like to give her a good shine and make it last. My question is, what paints can I use without going to the expense of a fresh air resperator? I just have a charcoal type and I typically paint outside or in my shop with the large doors open. I know I cant use the hardners safely, what kind of painting system can I use to get a nice paint job?

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Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2010 at 10:22am

I just use the Valspar equipment paint from Tractor Supply, it might not be right on in color but it works I add a hardener to get some shine and just use a charcoal resperator

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Posted By: Sheridan-Utah
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2010 at 4:33pm

I use Vansickle paint from farm store and put hardner in the finale coat. I paint outside and get excellent results. The paint has held up for years.

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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2010 at 4:43pm

You can use a good quality paint with good hardener with a professional charcoal mask. Who told you you can't?

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Posted By: JPG AUSTRALIA
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2010 at 5:08pm

the hardener is the toxic part,so if you use that you might as well use any 2-pack paint.There is now a few companys selling 2-pack paints called isocyanate free,so you can paint with just a charcoal mask or less.

Posted By: JM
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2010 at 8:32pm

I have researched this on the web and it is well documented the iso's in the hardners are very toxic and cause many health problems and worse. I painted my C 14 years ago with a brand new 3m charcoal resperator not knowing anything about the hardners. After hearing the posiible effects I am scared to death to use it again with out a suite and supplied air system. I have never had any problems since, I think having a brand new mask and being in a open garage is what saved me. I dont want to try it again.

Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2010 at 8:58pm

I suppose a mask of some sort would be the way to go when painting with any type of paint. When I get ready to start to shoot something with paint even with hardener I never seem to have a mask handy. Takes a bunch of scrubbing to get the tint off my glasses but does make it easier to get hold of the unwanted nose hairs with the tweezers.
I think it is a big problem with/for those that have an allergy to the fumes. I don't seem to have an allergy to any paint fumes. From what I have read it is not a chance a person should take if they have the information. When I started spray painting some 50 years ago most painters painted without a mask. I have been using hardener for over 20 years several times a year in small amounts but do try to keep air movement to blow fumes away from myself.
At 72 I probly will keep painting the same way when painting a project without a mask using hardener just as I always have. If I was to paint for long periods such as shooting more than one tractor, truck or car I would most likely buy the fresh air system.

Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2010 at 11:05pm

Spraying any paint is how you expose your lungs to airborn paint particals. My I suggest applying paint to the heavy cast iron portions of a tractor with with a suitable brush. It really does a fine job on cast iron and breathing solvent fumes is not a problem if done in a well ventilated area. All you have left when thats done is the sheet metal. I would recommend spray painting it outdoors on a pretty day with protection from breathing airborne paint particals.

If you paint maybe 1 or 2 tractors this way in a year the health hazard is nothing to be overly concerned about. Use common sense and keep airborn paint particals from entering your lungs and you will be just fine.

Sanding and sandblasting creating old tractor paint dust and breathing it is probably more dangerous than putting on a fresh coat of new paint. Old tractor paint contains a high lead content.

Posted By: Dans 7080
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 3:51am

I painted my WD45 and 7080 with valspar paint and hardner. Make sure your primer and paint are compatible. I had no trouble but i did have to thin quite a bit. I used a small compressor on my 45,(it was close and i got the "hair" a week before the show) it did not have enough air flow to make the gun work as well as it should have. It turned out really well though, I didnt paint it back "factory" (all sheet metal and a few other parts are orange but everything else is black) but Im happy with it. The 7080 i "customized" as well but used a 6hp 60gal compressor the paint sprayed on wonderful.

Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 5:43am

I painted my Oliver 60 in my shed and I used a mask specifically designed for protection from the paint I was using. Not sure if it's charcoal or what, but it was about $80 at Napa.

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Posted By: gary ny
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 7:04am

I use a charcoal mask all the time ,if your not sure of it change your filters on it, they should be changed every 3 to 4 paint jobs.Give your self good ventilation and once you apply your coats, step out of the room for 10 to 15 mins and let it flow out and the air clear.Also if you have one try using the HVLP paint gun .I have been working on getting use to it for the past few yrs.Im getting so I use it more but still like my old binks model 7 but it does put alot mot paint in the air then the HVLP

Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 7:32am

I am gona get back into the two part paintt this spring. I have noticed that the full face masks with fresh air hose are pretty affordable. My neighbor uses a tiny shpo vac with the intake choked down to get the right flow out of the exhaust and uses that for the air supply. I must add tht the vac has never been used for any kind of vacuum work.