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Topic: Extra parts in engine kit
Posted By: Kraig (WI)
Subject: Extra parts in engine kit
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 9:49pm
I'm over hauling my WD. In the gasket kit, there are two grey felt seals that I'm not sure where they go. I think they go in the Rear oil seal upper retainer and in the wide grove behind the rear oil seal in the rear main bearing cap. But there wasn't any seal in those places originally, just the felt seal in the narrow groves. 
 Also, the ring kit had the bent wire things. It looks like they go under the oil seal, but I tried putting them in and it won't work there. The rings go in nice without those pieces. I am reringing the original 4" pistons.
Kraig (WI)
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7010,D17D,WD45,WD,WC,WC,B,
Gleaner K,60,66,72



Replies:
Posted By: Kraig (WI)
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 9:53pm
Hmmm, why didn't my picture come in? 

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7010,D17D,WD45,WD,WC,WC,B,
Gleaner K,60,66,72


Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 9:54pm


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Allis Express North Georgia
41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
Ford 345C TLB


Posted By: everett048
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2010 at 1:37am
I think i am right in this the two felt gaskets are for the oil pan? correct me if i am wrong,and the 4 rings go 1 in each piston in the bottom oil control ring the oil ring i believe is a multi peice and wont function correctly with out that part?.
                                           hth Mark Everett


Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2010 at 9:50am
You,re right, Mark.   Those four "bent wire things" are part of the four piece oil control ring. They are a spring and go in the back of the ring groove to keep the ring seated against the cylinder wall.  It won't seat properly without it.


Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2010 at 10:38am
The guys have the springs right. We used to call those "kickers" for oil rings. They go in first no matter what style oil rings you are using and yes they do make the rings compress harder, that is what they are supposed to do.


Posted By: Richard Slaughter
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2010 at 4:13pm
Do you use old oil expanders if new set of rings do not have them, for a Ford 800 overhaul. There  wer none in new ring set or any info in the instructions about usiing any expander devices.


Posted By: Bruce Nelson
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2010 at 4:24pm
If your ring set did not come with any. You don't need them.


Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2010 at 5:37pm
Shucks, I ALWAYS have parts left over. I thought that was normal!!!!!


Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2010 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Shucks, I ALWAYS have parts left over. I thought that was normal!!!!!
  thats how they get the cost up on shipping weight

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people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra



Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2010 at 8:34pm
Lou you and Mitch have me on the floor with that one. LMAO
Don


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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.




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