OLD Tractor Fork Lift
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Topic: OLD Tractor Fork Lift
Posted By: Okwen
Subject: OLD Tractor Fork Lift
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 6:44am
Hello, I am new to the site. Just picked up an old allis chalmers fork lift and am looking for some info on it. I think it is a I-60 but am not sure. Just want to findout a few things to give it some TLC like what hydraulic oil to use for the lifting. It has shuttle shift, and everything seems to work decent, needs some new roller bearings and the chains oiled but seems to work. Any help on this would be great. 
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 12:22pm
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I bought one just like it last summer, great tractor to have around. I just run regular hydraulic fluid in mine. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 1:59pm
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Link to 'Tractor Data' website: Specs. for Allis I60 Gary http://www.tractordata.com/industrial-tractors/000/0/8/84-allis-chalmers-i60.html |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 6:04pm
| Looks like I 600, series 2 muffler, and a hard nose radiator shell, although it could be a johnny cash put-together! |
Posted By: Okwen
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 6:15pm
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Thanks Gary. There is a little info there. I am also looking for the roller bearings that are in the rails of the fork lift, so if you or anybody know where to get them that would be a big help. She fires up a drive quiet well. I started her this morning and it was 6 degrees F without any trouble. Thanks Matt |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 6:28pm
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I think for the bearings you might have to pull one off and order one by measurements from a parts store. Probably not the kind of item on any old Allis dealers shelf. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Mrgoodwrench
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 6:48pm
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if you mean mast rollers typically the bearings are not replacable separate from the roller. you may be able to get them from a bearing supplier but i'm not sure. a good forklift dealer should be able to help ------------- There are 3 ways to do job GOOD, FAST, CHEAP. YOU MAY CHOOSE 2. If its FAST & CHEAP it won't be GOOD, if it's GOOD & CHEAP it won't be FAST, and if its GOOD & FAST it won't be CHEAP!!!! |
Posted By: Okwen
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 7:37pm
| Yhea i meant mast rollers. That's probably what i will have to do is take one off for measurement and see what I can get. I hope to give the old girl a little love. the rollers on it have some flat spots, the mast still goes up and down but the rollers don't roll. I tested picking up an old chevy caviler, it got it up off the ground but didnt want to much higher than a few feet, it would tilt in and out with no problem but didnt want to g any further, could tell it it was just the rollers binding. I picked the thing up for 1500 and the guy had just put a new alternator on it and had the carb rebuilt. I am going to change the hydraulic fluid, seems a little thick and want to make sure it's clean. Not sure what to use though. It's a little tough to steer when it's below 20 deg. |
Posted By: Okwen
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 7:38pm
| Sorry meant couldn't tell if the rollers were binding |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 7:46pm
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I recently brought home some I beams from work that weighed just over 5000 pounds each and at first the steer wheels came off the ground when I tried to lift one so I added 1500 pounds on the counter weight and then I could tilt the forks forward and bring them up tight to the beam and tip the forks back to lift it. It would not lift it straight up but I could still steer with the extra counter weight. I'm guessing they are rated at around 4000 pound capacity. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Okwen
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 7:54pm
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Ok good to know. Any thoughts on why it didn't want to go higher. Think the cold would have anything to do with it, or thick oil? any ideas would be helpful. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 8:00pm
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If it wasn't binding I think the only reason would be lack of oil because if it lifts the entire car off the ground a foot it should lift it all the way up. It takes a lot of oil to fill the lift cylinder and I'm not sure how much extra is in the reservoir, if it's a little low that might do it. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Mrgoodwrench
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 8:01pm
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I've seen rusted chains stop them dead. we even had a rep from mit/cat forklift tel us the only true way to lube the chains is to take them off and soak them ------------- There are 3 ways to do job GOOD, FAST, CHEAP. YOU MAY CHOOSE 2. If its FAST & CHEAP it won't be GOOD, if it's GOOD & CHEAP it won't be FAST, and if its GOOD & FAST it won't be CHEAP!!!! |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2013 at 9:37pm
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The mast rollers may be something that you could find if you do a search for "Cam Follower". It's a common industry style of bearing that's intended just for the purpose of following a rail... very handy. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2013 at 9:33am
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If you want to know exactly what you have look at the bell housing. The model/serial number should be stamped on the bell housing on the same side as the carburetor.
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Posted By: Okwen
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2013 at 3:49pm
| I did find the serial number right after I had made the first post. So I went over things again and did another test lift, and yup it seems that its the rollers that are keeping it from lifting anything heavy very high. So new rollers is top priority. I will look at napa, I also went to an old school tractor store that use to be an allis dealer years ago. He says he could get them but that they wernt cheap, a 2-3 hundred each roller. I hope i can find them for less than that. i was thinking of around $50 each, $100 tops. See if i can come up with anything this week. But boy is it a hooot to play around on. |
Posted By: Okwen
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 5:02am
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Well I have been making some good head way on the rollers. I went into to a load lifter dealer 15 min from my place and they knew all about what I was looking for. He is just going to give me a newer trolley to be able to put newer style bearings on, because the ones i took off just had a brass bushing. Had another quick question, does anybody know what the machine weight is? I am not totally sure and don't want to overload the trailer.
Thanks
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2013 at 5:49am
| A diesel d-15 II weighs about 4200 #, so add the weight of the mast, and counterweighting, and you prolly have a tractor that weighs in the neighborhood of 6-7K #. |
Posted By: ghostriderinthesky
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2013 at 6:50pm
| looks like an old KD brand Forklift made in Waco Texas. now owned by Manatou in Waco still has parts. |