Big Ten Paint Confusion
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Topic: Big Ten Paint Confusion
Posted By: Jim in MN
Subject: Big Ten Paint Confusion
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2013 at 8:50am
I'm (Original Owner)restoring my 65 Big Ten. I've been down the paint road of Rustolium Old Caterillar Yellow, John Deere Construction and Industrial Yellow, Tisco B-10 and Tisco Allis Chalmers paint chips and nothing seems to match. I have the entire tractor down to nuts and bolts so I'm able to use pieces to match that have never seen daylight. Any help out there? I'm going color blind
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Posted By: Dr.Fiero
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2013 at 10:32am
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I'm not sure how accurate it is, since finding a TRUE exact match panel is pretty tough after 50 years... but I went with "new CAT yellow" on mine. ------------- Current slow rides: '65 Big Ten, '79 JD 317 |
Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2013 at 1:50pm
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Probably won't find it in a can on the shelf. Well's stie lists some paint codes and mix ratios.
http://www.wellsimplement.com/bseries.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.wellsimplement.com/bseries.htm
------------- 10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments |
Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2013 at 10:16pm
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My 14 year old son is restoring a B212. Like you, we found a spot on the original paint which had been protected for years and was in good shape and had good color. I used Van Sickle safety orange (part number 450 74) and blended it with Van Sickle AC orange (part number 453 74) and it came out perfectly after about an hour of mixing. Now, as I understand it the 200 series were a different color yellow than the 100 and earlier B series tractors. But you may still be able to do the same thing. Beware, it takes very little of the orange to change the shade of the yellow. I don't have any exact measurements as I just kept adding small amounts of the orange until it was right, but I would say it takes about 3/4 of a shot glass of the orange to 1 quart of the yellow. Good luck. |
Posted By: Jim in MN
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 7:24am
| Thanks for all the help. From the pictues it looks like Little Wolfies project might be spot on. I'm hoping he'll see this post and add another piece to the puzzle. It might be easier to paint it Candy Apple Red. |
Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2013 at 7:58am
| Check that, it should have been Van Sickle safety YELLOW # 450 74 not safety orange. |
Posted By: Rod in MN
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2013 at 4:37pm
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HI, Jim in MN I restored a Big Ten 3 year's ago. I took a part in that was under seat that was not faded. Auto valve store took the scanner to it and came up with match new. I did find the paint code on the web. Nason machinery and Equipment Fast dry Acrylic Enamel paint. 676791 IE Yellow car: Chrysler Year 1979 Code:SY4 Color: Brt Yellow Tint420-20-10-grams Tint 430-07-20-grams 649574 IE Color: Beige Cream Car: General Motors Code:8440 Rod in MN |
Posted By: Jim in MN
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 10:47am
| Thanks for all the help and my saga continues. In an attempt to find a good original color I slow sanded a couple of pieces as well as removing the weight plate and so on. Keeping in mind that I'm the original owner and have not repainted I found two colors. One color that is under the weight plate is a milky or lighter yellow and also found a darker yellow over the top of that on other pieces as I slow sanded. I'm thinking since so many of the frame parts didn't really change in the early years, my frame might have been painted a lighter color from 63 or 64 and repainted for the new model BIG 10 color in 65. Everything I read indicates that a primer wasn't used during the original manufacture. Interesting how many variations you come across. As an example you find the air cleaner either painted black or yellow depending on the original literature you come across. Mine was yellow from the Milwaulkee plant. |