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Topic: 180D Rear lift arms
Posted By: Hasbeen
Subject: 180D Rear lift arms
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 12:24pm
The lift arms on rear of the 180D stays in the lift mode when engine RPM is above idle.



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Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 1:48pm
Okay - this is a common problem on D17 Series IV, 170/175/180/185 tractors.  Most likely the linkage finger for your Traction Booster hydraulic valve spool is stuck and pressing on the TB spool and causing it to constantly pump hydraulic fluid in the lift arms, keeping them raised.  Here a are a few pics from my D17 S-IV.  Valves are the same on the 180, the linkage to the TB is different so you'll have to adjust accordingly.  Here's the finger and  TB Spool valve.  It's on the inside next to the fender.



You need to free up the pivot for the finger so it no longer is stuck and presses on the TB spool.  First take something and pry the finger back off the spool.  Make sure the TB spool will move in and out freely without the finger pressing on it.  If it doesn't, that's another problem but we won't go there yet. 

To fix the sticking finger, it might mean removing it from the pivot and cleaning it up and putting some good lube or never-seize on it.  In my case, the nut on the bolt for the pivot was too tight but was the finger became free when I loosened the nut.  I put that 2nd (shiny) nut on it to keep the nuts tight but the finger loose. 



Let us know if this fixes your problem.  Mike


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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers


Posted By: TimZ(TX)
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2010 at 12:50pm
Thank you.  I'll give that a try.
 
Tim


Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2010 at 1:02pm
Make sure the Traction Booster and the Position Control levers are full Forward

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Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 7:37am
Originally posted by Skyhighballoon(MO) Skyhighballoon(MO) wrote:

Okay - this is a common problem on D17 Series IV, 170/175/180/185 tractors.  Most likely the linkage finger for your Traction Booster hydraulic valve spool is stuck and pressing on the TB spool and causing it to constantly pump hydraulic fluid in the lift arms, keeping them raised.  Here a are a few pics from my D17 S-IV.  Valves are the same on the 180, the linkage to the TB is different so you'll have to adjust accordingly.  Here's the finger and  TB Spool valve.  It's on the inside next to the fender.



You need to free up the pivot for the finger so it no longer is stuck and presses on the TB spool.  First take something and pry the finger back off the spool.  Make sure the TB spool will move in and out freely without the finger pressing on it.  If it doesn't, that's another problem but we won't go there yet. 

To fix the sticking finger, it might mean removing it from the pivot and cleaning it up and putting some good lube or never-seize on it.  In my case, the nut on the bolt for the pivot was too tight but was the finger became free when I loosened the nut.  I put that 2nd (shiny) nut on it to keep the nuts tight but the finger loose. 



Let us know if this fixes your problem.  Mike
 
SHB that tractor ever seen the business end of a pressure washer?  LOL


Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 7:49am
TA - absolutely.   Took that TB pic back in 2006 when we were working on it right before the GOTO show in Boonville, MO.   We did all the mechanical work first.  As you can see we then cleaned it up, sandblasted & painted it.  I put the decals on Saturday morning and drove about 3 miles from my mechanic's shop to the show.   Mike










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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers


Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2010 at 7:50am
Originally posted by Skyhighballoon(MO) Skyhighballoon(MO) wrote:

TA - absolutely.   Took that TB pic back in 2006 when we were working on it right before the GOTO show in Boonville, MO.   We did all the mechanical work first.  As you can see we then cleaned it up, sandblasted & painted it.  I put the decals on Saturday morning and drove about 3 miles from my mechanic's shop to the show.   Mike


 
Awesome, love those 17's.


Posted By: ChrisIN
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2010 at 9:43pm
I'm having the same problem with my lift arms, except mine raise even at idle. I'll give this a try. So, just so I understand. When using the 3 point lift arms, I need to have the traction booster and position control all the way forward, and just use the right hydraulic lever to raise, lower, and hold the 3 point arms?
Thanks,
Chris


Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 8:43am
Chris - yes that is correct....unless you are using the traction booster for draft control like with a mounted moldboard plow, you push the levers all the way forward.  Mike

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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 11:58am
When I first bought mine same issue, freed up all the linkages and reset most of them and it is just fine now.


Posted By: ChrisIN
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 2:06pm
It worked for mine. Now I need to find a plunger cap for the back of the lift valve assembly. I had a screwdriver in the hold to adjust the detent and the lift arm hit it and broke the ears off. I am having a terrible time finding one. Does anyone on here have a parts tractor with this part available?
Thanks,
Chris


Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 2:50pm
Chris - actually not too hard to come by.  Not sure what they want for them but Cook Tractor in  Clinton, MO could probably come up with a least a dozen of them out of their salvage yard.  Google them.  Mike

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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers


Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 3:15pm
Your boys looked a little taller at Seymour a few weeks ago, Mike. It's amazing how fast they grow up.

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