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Ebay G with no creeper gear

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Topic: Ebay G with no creeper gear
Posted By: Scott(GA)
Subject: Ebay G with no creeper gear
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 4:23pm

There's a G for sale on Ebay that is represented as having no creeper gear.  It's located in Madison, AL (near Huntsville).  It sure would be nice if some knowledgable forum member could document that the creeper gear really is missing in this tractor.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALLIS-CHALMERS-AC-G-TRACTOR-WITH-MOWER_W0QQitemZ150409510680QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item23051aff18 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ALLIS-CHALMERS-AC-G-TRACTOR-WITH-MOWER_W0QQitemZ150409510680QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item23051aff18
 
Scott
 
Ebay G Tractor Without Creeper Gear



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Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 4:52pm
We had a G for awhile that did not have the extra low gear.  It was not as nice for plowing so we sold it and now we have one with the low low gear.  So they are out there.

Andrew


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Andrew Gubbels
Gubbels Restoration


Posted By: Scott(GA)
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 5:23pm
Andrew,
 
In the recent past there seemed to be a debate on this forum as to if the Creeper Gear was actually missing or just "disabled" but still present.
 
I thought this "real-time" situation might clarify the matter.
 
Just curious Andrew, did you happen to peek into the transmission or split the tractor to see if the creeper gear was missing?  Please don't take this question the wrong way - I'm just trying to get more details on your situation.
 
Best regards,
 
Scott
 
Originally posted by AndrewGubbels AndrewGubbels wrote:

We had a G for awhile that did not have the extra low gear.  It was not as nice for plowing so we sold it and now we have one with the low low gear.  So they are out there.

Andrew


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 11:01pm
Inquiring minds want to know!Did you open it up to verify no creeper gear?


Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 6:24am
There was a lengthy discussion on here recently about this - conclusion seemed to be that some G's were made w/o the creeper gear but that one could be installed easily. Here's a link to the earlier discussion:
 
http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6770&KW=creeper+gear&title=g-creeper-gear - http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6770&KW=creeper+gear&title=g-creeper-gear


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Posted By: bigallis1
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 7:07am
Too bad someone butchered the rear section of the hood.
Look's like they wanted to be able to get at the generator easily.


Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 7:54am
I never did look into the transmission guys.  I am not sure if it was just blocked out or if it was not there.  I would guess it to be dnot there.  I am sure that there was a price difference in purchase without the creeper gear.  I am sure it was an option.  So my guess would be nothing was there but it wouldnt be to bad to install one.  I could ask my dad he may know more about this. 

Andrew


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Andrew Gubbels
Gubbels Restoration


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 12:01pm
Gentlemen,  Every G tractor has the creeper gear.  They just dissapear from the shift pattern.  Happened to us in 1948 too. 
Remove the seat, the gear shift lever, and check with a flashlight to find the shifter fork on the left side.  Take a long screwdriver and move it back into the pattern.  Will work then.
We sold a ton of G tractors and never had one without it.  Also, never had knowledge of one without the creeper gear.  Many get confused cause the basic transmission was a B-C.  The raised gear pattern only shows three gears.  HOwever, the G pattern was located on the top of the battery box.  Since many have been damaged and corroded they are lost and many think the B-C pattern is correct.
Anyway, all one has to do to check withoug all the above is check right befoe the transmssion - front - is a housing where the gear is located. 
Sorry I get sooo windy on this but that's the way it is.
Good Luck!
Bill Long


Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 1:55pm
The low low gear is not on the inside of the transmission. They are mounted on the front. Put a jack under the back of the engine to hold it from tipping down and remove four nuts and slide the housing forward a little bit and peek inside.
 
Allis G New Low Gear



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