WARNING - STAY OFF I-40 between TN and NM DANGER!
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Topic: WARNING - STAY OFF I-40 between TN and NM DANGER!
Posted By: On-the_road_again
Subject: WARNING - STAY OFF I-40 between TN and NM DANGER!
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 11:23am
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This is shaping up to be the worst winter in more than 30 years for transport. Covenant Trucking group, which covers several truck lines operating nationally, has pulled drivers off of Interstate 40 between Nashville, TN and Santa Rosa, NM. That decision is based upon DOT road closures in several states & feedback from OTR discretionary company drivers. I pulled off yesterday near Nashville, TN. Anyone thinking of taking I-40 between NM and TN should wait until this Sunday. Jim |
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 11:45am
| Looking at the TDOT cameras here in Memphis the I40 traffic is flowing at normal speed. Road is just wet. Snow was heavy around 10am but has just about quit for now. I'm heading for the house in about 45 min. just to be safe. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 12:50pm
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All I can say is I'm not dissappointed one bit that we finally got missed by a big storm this go round. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Jeff(WD45-SATX-TN)
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 3:02pm
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Hey Jim
You get any where south of Nashville while you are here give me a call. I am in Franklin TN.
Jeff
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Posted By: Hartland Farm
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 4:12pm
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It just started to snow here in Springfield, TN about 2:00. Not sticking to the roads yet but the temp is 27 degrees. Weather man keeps saying 4 to 6 inches of the dry white stuff. That was nothing when I was a kid when it snowed all winter and we would miss weeks of school but now it's a disaster. I'm laidoff from my job at USF Holland as a road driver and I have missed all the slick roads this winter. I guess that's the bright side of not working.
Joe (TN)
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Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 4:35pm
| Covenant Transport like most large trucking companies will hire anyone with a heartbeat that can stand for more then 10 seconds by themselves without falling down. When you hire people with no experience that has no knowledge of machinery or machanical ability and has only had 6 weeks of training they should be pulled off the highway! Swift and I think it was CFI hired outside of the country because they could not get enough drivers to fill their trucks, why, because they pay crap and treat their drivers worse then crap! They take people out of a driving school put them in a truck and expect them to stay in the truck for 6-8 weeks at a time!! |
Posted By: On-the_road_again
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 4:57pm
Todd,
I will overlook your ignorance.
Memphis, TN has had more than 400 car accidents in the last
couple hours alone.
You should watch the news.
I-40 was shut down at Fairview, TN.
This region does not have the equipment or the resources
to deal with a major winter storm.
A 6 to 12 inch snowfall alternating with freezing rain
in Nashville, TN is just about unheard of.
This storm is alternating layers of freezing rain and snow
all along I -40 from New Mexico to Tennessee & further.
I pulled off the road yesterday afternoon & will stay put
probably until Sunday morning.
I am a safe driver, just like the other drivers sitting in
lounge at the truck stop right now.
Jim
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ToddSin NY wrote:Posted By: D-17_Dave
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 5:04pm
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There are I'm sure SOME decent drivers for most any company out there. However, I must sight with Todd on his overview of Covenent, Swift, and other low pay/low exspectation trucking companies. These companies have all but ruined the good name of truck driving in this country.
A real good truck driver would have been prepared for the weather by staying clear of the affected areas.
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Posted By: On-the_road_again
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 5:09pm
Stay clear of the affected areas?
Right, find an alternate route to transport along I-40
from New Mexico to Tennesse?
A "real good truck driver" follows his route and pulls
off the road when travel is unsafe - he waits out bad weather.
A "real good company" advises their drivers to do just that.
No load is worth the safety of the truck driver or other
public drivers on the road.
Jim
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Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 5:16pm
| We all gotta do what we gotta do to make a living, unless we had the good sense to inherit a bunch of money. |
Posted By: Brad MI
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 8:39pm
| Jim, we are setting at the I35 split just S of Dallas waiting this mess out. I pulled over about 6:00 because I could see the snow/mix around NE Dallas on my dashboard GPS/NORAD radar. We're in a pusher motor home, not the best winter weather ride! I'll get up abut 4:00 and look it over; I'm not sure if I should take I30 east to I40 or head up US75 to I44. Michigan Sunday afternoon is the hope........... lol |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 9:17pm
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Brad
I was thinking of your travel plans and the ice and snow along your planed route. May be a good time to enjoy Texas for a few more days. Be safe Ken
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 9:30pm
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On Monday night Tuesday morning they closed I 29 in ND and SD also I 90 In MN West of Albert Lea.
US 212 was closed as well as many other roads in MN, IA, ND, SD. I went to Fargo ND. on I 94 was clean and dry all the way , but in Northern MN they also closed roads and had 6" to 12" of new snow.
Driving for a living doesn't mean i need to risk my life nor does it mean the load is or has to get there all the time on time.
Coming back from Fargo ND today on dry highway and daylight there was a accident involving a dump truck and pickup and several other cars at West bound I 94 and MN 101 in Rogers MN, all 3 or 4 lanes were closed and traffic backed up for 6 miles . Now if it had been snowing and blowing that could have meant hundreds of people stranded in bad weather.
Heed the warnings, then in areas that do not get snow regularly the drivers do not know how to drive in it and you are taking more risks , not that you are a bad driver but those other nuts on the roads can create real problems.
------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2010 at 11:39pm
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Jim,
do you stay in hotels everynight when you stop, or do you ever sleep in your pickup? Staying hotels seems like it would eat up alot of your profits.....At one time didnt the back seats in those fords fold down into abed. It wouldnt be to bad to pull into a truck stop and sleep in back a few nights.
Anthony
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Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 8:56am
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I think On_the_road_again should be commended for posting this warning... not criticized for whatever comapny he drives for.
Like I said in my earlier post... we all gotta do what we gotta do.
I see a pretty little girl on his avatar... I hope he always gets home safe and more often to be with her.
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Posted By: On-the_road_again
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 9:28am
That is my 4 year old daughter Marie
I just drive for her & my family - no company
I miss her a whole lot when I am on the road
 Every driver on the road hauling deserves RESPECT
Young & old - it is a tough job most days
I spend my nights in the back seat of my truck
and the drivers' lounge at truck stops
With few exceptions they are the utmost of
professionals ......
Jim
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Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 5:54pm
| Jim I don't think what I said was ignorant at all and I take offense to it!! What was ignorat with the truth? I've been driving for 24 years and in that time have seen alot of changes. Most not for the good! When I started you didn't go to a school, you learned from a pro already in the field, mine was my father. These large companies hire from the local "truck driving schools" that turn out bodies to fill the seats whether they are quilafied or not. How many schools have been under investagation for this? ALOT! Some of these "drivers" can not even speak the english language which is a requirement to drive a commercial truck. When companies buy automatic trans trucks because new hire drivers can not get a grasp on how to shift a standard tranny, theres a problem! I don't know how long you've been driving but I remember when drivers waved to each other, stopped to help when you were broke down, bought you dinner if you were broke down with no money, dressed as a pro and acted like it!! I get so disgusted when I see some of these guys out on the road. No shower in days, greasy hair, dirty clothes! My God when you buy fuel you get a free shower, take advantage of it! I saw a driver in IN about 10 years ago that must have weighed over 500 lbs with God awful dirty smelly clothes and no shower. Everyone in the reastarea was looking at him and I thought my God people are stereotyping me with him! Do you listen to the trash on the CB? I turn mine off most of the time as I can't stand to listen to these knuckel heads talking with a fowl mouth when every other word is a swear word. You know what my favorite complement is? When I tell someone I drive truck and they say wow you don't look or sound like a truck driver. I always say thank you! |
Posted By: On-the_road_again
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 6:16pm
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Todd,
Your opinion of drivers is kinda like the opinion the public has of farmers.
The 'opinion' and the 'reality' are two different things altogether.
My experience in driving and my opinion of drivers is largely favorable.
So is my opinion of farmers.
My experience is that people who making NEGATIVE general statements
about other groups of people are ignorant.
That is my opinion and I stand by it.
Jim
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Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 6:19pm
| I just went back and read your post of sleeping in the back seat of your truck? Do you know that is against DOT regulations? You also sleep in drivers lounges? That is safe? How do you get proper rest by this method? You need 10 hours of off time to properly rest and relax and I can't see this happening in this manner. I'm very surprised you have not been shut down and citied for this. When I ran over the road with a day cab I had to show a motel reciet after the 10 hours on duty. Not trying to bash, but come on lets not call the kettle black here. |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 6:23pm
| Did you read my post? It says 24 years of driving!!! I live the life, I'm not on the outside looking in, trust me. You might want to lower those rose colored glass' s of yours every once in a while and see the real world as it plays out in front of you! I too have a decent out look of the trucking industry but it's diming as time goes on. |
Posted By: On-the_road_again
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 6:34pm
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Todd, I do not sleep in the drivers lounge. I watch tv there.You are clearly a very angry and frustrated and cynical person.
You need to look in the mirror.
What you truthfully don't like will be staring back at you.
Jim
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 6:38pm
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Posted By: On-the_road_again
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 6:41pm
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Thanks Lou,
I appreciate that,
Jim
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Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 7:01pm
| LOL! I'm the farthest thing from what you say. I'm a pretty easy going happy go lucky person that has a good sense of humor, if I do say so myself, thank you. I have absolutly no problem looking myself in the eye each and every morning. I might not be the prettiest face I see that day, but I have not problem looking at myself. I just don't like being called ignorant by someone who has never meet me face to face. You my friend are telling me that I'm ignorant when it's a good possibilty I have more miles on me backing up then you may have going forward? Then you sleep in the back seat of a pickup truck when it is unsafe and against DOT regs and you tell me I'm ignorant? Please, it must be ok for you but nobody else? If you are running under DOT regs with DOT numbers on your truck, which you should be hauling for hire, you should know this. It was my opinion with what I said of these large trucking companies and I still stand by them. With these companies you are not a person you are an a$$ filing a seat to them. Ive been on both sides of the table in trucking and did not like what I saw on the corp. side so I left. These people do not know you so they don't care about you. I've also saw the good and bad side to drivers. I was unloading in Syracuse with my own truck and trailer, that I maintained myself, and a FNG was backing into a dock, 3 doors down from my truck. He took my fender, bumper, light, grill and what ever else he could hit with him. How can that be done? Well afterwards he told me he had just gotten out of "driving school" 2 weeks prior. If I had done something of that nature my father would have felt like a failure as he had taught me better than that! Do you think a driving school or large carrier cares? Just another claim to them. Now think of that every time you are passed or passing a truck. This guy might just have gotten out of driving school 2 weeks ago. |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 7:21pm
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Jim, You sound like a really nice person and obviously work really hard to take care of your family, I enjoy you sharing bits of your life, I for one find it very interesting. Anyway stay positive..........I think the drivers that go to school for the most part are good drivers..they are just trying to better themselves................Todd it doesnt matter who you learned to drive from whether it was your dad and best friend.....those students are learning to drive same as you.............even learing from your dad you were still green once.............
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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 7:42pm
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Jim, you are right, opinion and reality are two different things. I suspect you're a very nice person, as I found of Todd AFTER he moved a part for me without knowing me from Adam. I don't know him well, but he is anything but an angry, frustrated, or cynical person. He's very laid back, friendly man with a teddy bear personality that will go out of his way to help anyone.
Maybe you can both chalk it up to a bad day, PM each other and get past it. From what I sense from you and believe of Todd, you both have a lot in common. ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 7:51pm
| You are right Anthony but you are not getting my point it seems. I was not rushed out the door in 6 weeks and pushed into a truck with very little experince. I had the mech ability and could drive anything you put me in from the farm life. I also had my permit for over a year befor I took my test. I talked to one "School grad" that never went on the road til he got his job. They were on a track for 4 days of the 6 weeks, took the test and here you go! Would you feel safe driving next to this guy? I have no problem with someone bettering themselves but come on how many people have to be hurt or killed because of this? With these large carriers it's revenue and bodies. Then the DOT and law start busting on the rest of us and we have to suffer the rath of that. Then new laws are made that I have to deal with. The romance isn't there when you live the life. Trust me I've really enjoyed the life and seeing the country but am tired of people bringing my industry down! Then to be called ignorant? I don't call that being a nice person! |
Posted By: Brad MI
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 7:53pm
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Jim, I too appreciate this post. This post gave me a great heads up about what I was going to be facing today. We left the I35 split S of Dallas this morning; 4:30 AM. Had breakfast at Cracker Barrel Texarkana about 8:00. Shortly after leaving Texarkana is when the chit hit the fan! After a long hard day in hours of traffic jams, a couple detours around tractor-trailer wrecks, and MANY miles at 45mph and less, we are setting in Palestine Arkansas tonight. At dark I40 simply turned to glass. I'm at Loves, but there was NO place to park, so I bought a parking spot from the little motel across the street- and REAL GLAD to do so! I don't guess getting to Michigan tomorrow was all that important after all...... lol Thanks again, Brad |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 8:00pm
| GBACBFan Thank you for the kind words. I've always tried to do good for and by people. But when I'm called ignorant my temper starts to raise and stand out. I would never do that to a person. Thanks again. |
Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 8:22pm
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Todd and Jim, lets meet in D.C. and have a beer! |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 8:27pm
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Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 8:35pm
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Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 8:38pm
| No thanks Nick but you atre welcome here anytime as most are that don't call me ignorant. Sorry to everyone for taking this this far but that to me was out of line on his part. Again i apoliogize. |
Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 8:45pm
| We got enough fruitloops in Ky. Didn't want to go to D.C. anyway. Just come to Ky. |
Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 9:10pm
I hope you didn't mean that you would never call some one ignorant becaue you sure implied it in your 8:01pm post that reads "Then you sleep in the back seat of a pickup truck when it is unsafe and against DOT regs and you tell me I'm ignorant?". You may not have said it out right but you sure came close so.
I am not here to pick a fight with anyone or start anything but, I don't see why people on this sight can't get along we are not here to call each other names or argue over a companies policies or the amount of experience people have, we are here to talk about orange tractors, help each other, and have FRIENDLY conversations about anything else we should choose.
If you think I took your post out of context please explain, but I still don't see how a road closing had anything to do with a company hiring drivers that are not ready to be driving other than if they do lack in experience it is a good thing the all mighty dollar didn't get in the way of the saftey of many. It was a friendly warning that the roads were bad and turned hostile quick.
Not knowing either party in this matter I am not picking sides, I do agree that two wrongs do not make a right and no one should have been called any name in the first place
Sorry if I offended anyone but I hate seeing members of our little AC family fighting,
Denis ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 9:26pm
| What's all this Farm Equipment space being used like this for anyway. Would you mind taking your hard feelings for each other someplace else. I apologize if I'm talking out of turn. Try Private Messaging. |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 12:38am
| Denis I apologized even though I wasn't the one to take it to a personal level. I still do not beleave I said anything in anyway shape or form to Jim in a personal level. His was the one to start slingin mud not me. I don't think I needed to be called a name like that anymore than anyone else would like it. |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 1:05am
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Must be the road rage I have heard about. Gets to ya when you see to many======================================================
double lines.
Ok, you know, ifn you both had met on a nice sunny day, you guys would get along great.
The truck driving school thing, is to scary to be true but it is. I worked at a place that the drive was suppose to pick up a load from us. He called on a cell phone, fellow in office understood him (I guess), suppose to be just a few miles away at the only stop lights in town. I went to the door and waited to help guide him in, 1/2 hour later he shows up. I walk out to him and I can't understand a word he says. then I pointed to the door and showed him where to drive like usual pattern the other drivers used to get backed up into building. He jacks around for what seemed like an eternity. finally I told him to just shut truck off. We loaded with bobcat and pallet jacks out in the yard. Gave him the slips and pointed south and he left and went north. Worst tractor-trailer truck driver I ever did see, don't think he ever drove a truck before in his life. And prayed I would never see him back at the plant again either.
Then another fellow I know went TD school and got his permit and went to work foe another fellow I know. After 2 weeks, the 'new driver' ran the truck out of fuel couple hundred miles from truck shop and called back to see what he should do. owner said "Put the keys on the seat and lock the doors". "When you get that done, tell me." Driver said ok, He put the keys on the seat and locked the doors. then said he did it. The owner said "now you can walk home, your done driving for me." I asked the owner how he put up with that fellow for 2 weeks and he said he thought the guy would get the hang of it eventually but never did.
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Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 7:04am
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Back the truck up how about it. The first guy posts a warning about the bad road conditions, and the second guy posts a bunch of stuff about the drivers of the company that the first guy works for all being a bunch of incompetents . I'd say the second guy is absolutely ignorant of anything regarding the first guy or his ability, posted a bunch of crap that was completely irrelevant of the thread, and if he IS a stand up guy will apologize to the first guy in public, where he insulted him. Even if every bit of the stuff the second guy posted about the truck driving schools and companies is true, what does that have to do with the competence of the first guy, his weather warning post, or any of the guys driving the trucks. What are they supposed to do about it? They're are just trying to make a living. They are immune to your consultations... they're quite aware of what they're going through No, second guy... you were the one who started slinging the mud...you ARE wrong ....it WAS ignorant, and you owe the first guy an apology. It doesn't matter how nice a guy or how skilled and experienced you are otherwise. Judge Judy has spoken. |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2010 at 3:37pm
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I can not for the life of me understand why when I voice my opion on the trucking companies and industry that I have been in and lived the life for 24 years I'm called a name, that offened me terriably by Jim and others down trod me? I did NOT call Jim any names or imply anything wrong to him or about him or his driving skills! What I stated was my opion of the company he refered to is all I did. He owns his own truck and trailer and does not work for any of these companies. Why is it when others vent their opion of large farms, the big box hardware stores, the closing of the Allis line by Agco, etc. it is ok?
I still don't beleave I should have been called ignorant for this! If I had called Jim a POS or stupid for stoping I could understand the hot water that is being poured on me but I do not beleave I was deserving of this.
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Posted By: On-the_road_again
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 7:57am
Brad,
Thank you for your post.
I started this Thread as a warning about road conditions on I-40
as a courtesy to members who might be traveling along it.
I drove from Nashville to Memphis on Sunday along a dry road
except for standing water starting about 30 miles east of Memphis.
Saw solid snow my trip, also at least one broken down TDOT plow,
TDOT was using CAT graders to plow snow along the east bound
I-40 emergency lane in several locations - guess they ran out of plows!
I am looking forward to some good traveling weather on I-40 west
to Bakersfield & Fresno.
I have another daughter in Portland, OR I have not seen for
6 years & I am looking forward to visiting her when I get there.
All you members have a good week & be safe!
Jim
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Posted By: Andrew(southernIL)
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 9:04am
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Todd I know a couple of drivers who have the same complaints you stated about the as they call "schoolboys" and the CB talk. One I know was in I think Iowa 2-3 weeks ago during the winter storm with a load of paper rolls and was driving along, I forget which interstate, and topped a hill and there was a pileup on the bottom and know one was on top to warn anyone of it so he couldn't slow down enough with the weight he had to avoid it so instead of plowing into it and possibly killing people he took it to the median and rolled the truck to avoid hitting anyone else. I asked wasn't there anyone on the radio warning about it and he said, as you said, he gets tired of all the nagging and BS on there and had it turned off. He got in trouble still with the company for wrecking but under the circumstance I thought they should be glad he didn't kill anyone or himself and be glad they only had a wrecked truck.
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Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 2:02pm
| Times are tough enough out here on the road Andrew without all the crabby people on the CB whinning about the dispatcher, wife, kids, shippers, recievers, cops, DOT etc. I can see where he was coming from by turning off his radio. It is an unfortuate thing to have happen, but as usual it is easy for someone to come in afterwards and say you should have done this or this. |
Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 5:57pm
| 6 years-wow. I could'nt stand that! Enjoy your trip and even more, enjoy your visit with your daughter. Be safe, Nick |
Posted By: On-the_road_again
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2010 at 8:16pm
Thanks Nick,
She is 25 and that is how she wanted it until last summer.
I am proud of her, she is going to school, working hard,
full time job (that is hard to find in Portland).
She is very independent ....
Jim
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