How many on here own a kubota?
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Topic: How many on here own a kubota?
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Subject: How many on here own a kubota?
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 8:34am
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What do you think of yours? It's one of the possibilities for me getting away from AGCO. There's a local dealer that has a last years model tractor which is a good deal and another on the lot I could get too. I told him the numbers and he said it may be possible and is looking at my AGCO this week. I know their light and a simpler design than the AGCO but that's fine with me. I'm a small farmer anyway and for 95% of the stuff I do my RT100A is overkill. The owner/salesman yesterday asked why I wanted to get rid of it. I said it's because AGCO is dropping orange. He's the first person, outside of the forum, that told me that I should get rid of it because it's going to loose value. He said maybe not this year but after the ones get off the dealers lots it'll go down. I tend to agree with him though I don't know how much farther mine could go. Thanks a lot AGCO. |
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Posted By: bryani289swmi
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 3:17pm
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Byron,
I have a Kubota 2910 with loader, good solid machine. I buddy of mine has a Kubota dealership which they went to after they were dropped by Massey. Most of my terrain is hilly and it's very stable, even though I have put it on its side once. Came out of it without a scratch.
Bryan ------------- Sticks and stones may break my bones but hollowpoints explode on impact. |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 3:27pm
| Bryon have you advertised your AC here? I'm not on alot so may have missed it. You may get bettr money here than a trade in. This maybe away for someone here to get it also. |
Posted By: Dave A
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 3:37pm
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this auction site has one. looks like a good deal
http://mibid.bidcorp.com/AuctionDefault.aspx -
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Posted By: Curt-Indiana
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 4:02pm
| I have a 108x and love it. Less cost than John Deere I was looking at. I have to feed 165 cows every day and use it. Has a great loader and with fwd it goes great in the mud. I have had one problem and Kubota took care of it, it had a machining mistake in the ft right spendal and wore that tire off real fast. They fixed it and put on two new tires on the ft. all at no cost. |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 4:02pm
 In 2004 I bought a new Deere, lots of people here did not like it and probably still don't. I'm sure happy I didn't buy an Agco.
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Posted By: D-17_Dave
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 4:17pm
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Uncle's bought a Kubota several years back. Has the set back front axle and now has a loader on it. I can't recall the model number, 6cyl. diesel. The only thing I like about it is it shares the 16.9x28 rear tires as my 17. It's more useless than a self propelled wheel barrow with the loader on it and my 17 diesel will work and pull rings around it on less fuel.
I've seen lots of usefull Kubota tractors, mostly the compacts, that are decent tractors. They make some great engines also. But this tractor should have fell of the boat when it crossed the pond.
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Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 5:10pm
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A friend has two B8200 one 4wd with loader and one 2wd he likes them and has had the 4wd one since new in about 1980. They seem durable but buying parts is a pain because they are only available from the dealer. He uses the 2wd to mow in his tree nursery, and the 4wd to pull a mini traveller irigator in his crop land. I have drove both my only complaint is that they are about the right size for his 14 year old kid and not a 6ft tall 300 pound guy. Also on his the rear tires were very expensive. He bought a john deere 5320n rated at about 60 horse which is a way better tractor and runs circles around most tractors the same size it is the size of a d-14 but has a catagory 2 3 point and a 3 cyl turbo diesel that starts at -20 and all you have to do is crank it and it starts no glow plug switches or either buttons it has some kind of automatic start aid or it just start very well. ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 5:19pm
| Denis in MI the reason they don't fit an adult is have you ever seen a very big slant eye? |
Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 5:22pm
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Todd you are 100% right ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: kip in cny
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 5:26pm
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I own a kubota L4630 45hp cab and loader and 4 wheel drive. its a 2005 I got it with 400hrs on it. I love the cab heat and A/C. The only thing I dont like is the 3pt dont lift as high as the allis 160. But I love having 24 forward and rev gears. ------------- 160 CA 920diesel 5020 HD-3 |
Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 5:26pm
| Go to south korea and say the same thing, the young have the same frame, but not obesity of america. The older generation is much smaller. Size depends alot on nutrition during the growth years. |
Posted By: BrianC,Ont
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 5:59pm
| The guy that grades our pulling track after each pull has a Kubota. Not sure of the model, but he said it is around 100hp. It is 4wd, cab, and loader. He will pull it in the 12000lb class with the bucket off and do real well. Then he puts the bucket back on and fills it with dirt and enters it in unlimited class and puts it in 4wd. He has won that class a few times. It has 24 speeds like kip says, and he just keeps down shifting and it keeps on pulling. Everybody stares in disbelief that this small a tractor is beating the big JD and Case and Agco. |
Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 6:20pm
| I work at a jd dealership that also sells kubota. I don't care for working on them. Some people love them, others can't wait for the lease to expire to get rid of em. Kinda depends on what your going to do with it. I'm assuming your probly looking at a 108, or 125. They're deffinetly a cheaper tractor, but you get what you pay for. Its completely normal to drain the oil out of the front axle and for it to have metal filings. Deffinetly not designed for anyone 6 ft tall, i hit my head on that overhead console every time i get in and out of one. For 30 or 40 grand you could probly do worse though |
Posted By: MI8050
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 6:31pm
I bought an M9000 4x4 this year, I absolutely love it. Got it from a former massey dealer as well after a fellow I know traded it on a new Kubota. The hydraulics are very fast and the tractor is leak free after 3100 hours, very good on fuel too. I will buy another someday if the need arises.
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bryani289swmi wrote:Posted By: Matt (Jordan,MN)
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 6:53pm
| I worked at a Kubota and you couldn't give me one of there tractors. There engines are good and i am suprised that they last as long as the do in the skid loaders. We mainly sold the smaller utility and compact tractors. and there hydros and hydraulics are not the greatest. I have changed many hydro units on ther ZD series lawn mowers. The BX series were ok. We did replace a few transmission cases becouse they would crack. The BX series seemed to go through u joints in the front drive shaft. Then they had the BX 1500 which would vibrate so bad that Kubota put a 15 lbs weight on the engine to help balance it when it was at a idle. We had a lot of front axle problems larger L series. Kubota likes there ball bearings which didn't seem to last when you had a loader on them. I had to fix a few of them that where the 3rd. link attached to the rockshaft housing the housing would break. On there RTV 900 utility carts we had to put new brass plates in the charge pump and there front axle cv shafts would break. As for ther larger tractors we never sold them much. The few they did sell came back with shifting problems. I know one framer that demoed a 108 and was using to bale hay on a hill. The baler would push it bown hill and then the tractor would pull it up hill. He called us to get the tractor and finished baleing with the old 185. The main reason that i wouldn't buy one is that they don't seam to have the product suport like Agco or Deere. where you can get parts for old equipment. I needed parts for a Kubota that was built in the 80's and they were no longer availible. So i my mind the only thing they have going for them is the orange paint. |
Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 7:06pm
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Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 8:31pm
| never |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 9:39pm
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I have a '03 M110, no loader, about 1300 hr. bought new from the dealer in Cheyenne, Wy. It has had no problems other then the radio only works on the AM side. I did notice the low cab ceiling but got used to it (I'm 6', 200+lb) The 2 range 8 speed powershift is great altho going into 5th can jerk a bit sometimes. No metal shavings in the front axle oil, yet. The cab is nice although on really hot days (100+) the AC doesn't keep it very cool, found if I blow out the radiator every couple weeks the AC works better. I got to thinking about how many new tractors are in the area and off the top of my head, the only new ones in the last 5 years are Kubotas. My neighbor has one, my renter a mile away has a 40 hp one, another veggie farmer a couple miles away has a 7030, two years old. there are at least 5 other smaller Kubotas around here. No new JD's except lawn tractors, or for that matter any other brands. The closest new tractor dealer (18 miles away) dropped the NH line after being a Ford dealer for 55 years and only sells Kubota. The JD dealer a few miles further hasn't sold many tractors in this area, maybe more to the north and east. Rumor had it the MF dealer in Greeley, about 50 miles ne of here was going to take over the AGCO line when the current dealer retires, guess that won't happen. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 10:17pm
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The two tractors are the M125X and the M7040HD. There their "bigger" farm tractors. I love my RT100A and if AGCO didn't drop the orange I'd have a used LT70 in my barn right now with it. I moved some round bales to my neighbors today and was in a spot I didn't know if the RT would pull out of but she did. I thought I wonder if that Kubota would do this. It's an option though cause, did I mention, I'm ticked at AGCO. |
Posted By: C. Burnett
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 10:41pm
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 10:43pm
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My brother in SD bought a new M125X two years ago and likes it. It spends all its time on the TMR wagon, probably gets 3-4 hours a day put on it. He says it doesn't like jelly fuel when it gets cold out, but the filters aren't too hard to change. I drove it last November and thought it was an easy tractor to drive. It felt a lot smaller than his RT140..... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 11:05pm
| I could NOT buy anything foreign made if I could find one that was made in the USA. |
Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 11:18pm
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Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 11:28pm
| I thought Kubotas were like the modular Japanese cars they say are built in the USA but are really final assembled here from sub assemblies shipped here in sea containers. I could be mistaken though. I have made a mistake once in the past. |
Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 11:35pm
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I think most tractors and other vehicles are just assembled here. ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 12:32am
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The tractors are made in Japan but they are shipped here and the US made wheels and tires are put on, along with the loaders which are also made in the US.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 8:45am
I agree Dave within reason. In the under 40-100 hp class the only machine that is remotely assembled in the US is some John Deere models and their only assembled there. And, my brother, who is a John Deere nut, says they aren't worth the jacked up price. If you get to the 100 hp range you can find some but they start around $90,000 but so do the foreign made ones too. |
Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 10:08am
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There are no tractors under 100 horse tractor "made in the USA" with USA parts any more. Even most of the John Deere models are made in india, shipped over here, and have the tires put on. The good thing about JD, if you can call it good? I believe they actually own or are in a joint venture with a india company to produce their tractors. Same with kubota. Most of the other manufactures don't make anything on their smaller tractors, its built by another company to their specs. This is why its difficult to get parts sometimes for tractors that are not even several years old. |
Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 10:24am
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You could get one of these new chinese tractors with a perkins diesel, dana axle, and cab with air for less than a used kubota or deere or pretty much any name brand tractor.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200332529_200332529 - http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200332529_200332529
I don't know how good they are but I have thought about one since good used 4X4 ACs are hard to find around here for a decent price and these even have AC. I don't know if these perkins have anything to do with the old ones other than name but perkins had a good reputation. ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: Andrew(southernIL)
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 10:39am
| Well I have a buddy whose dad bought the biggest one they made around 98-01 year model from a local dealer and it was the biggest piece they had ever owned. You could have it in 4-wheel drive and pop the clutch and it would pull the front wheels off the ground. They owned it till last year when they traded for a 6690 and replaced or rebuilt everything on it except maybe the engine. The AC had to be redone every year and it couldn't pull their hay conditioner as good as their 185 and it was suppose to be bigger in the horse power department but it was still less than 100 horse. When they traded it they didn't care what they got on trade in they wanted it gone. |
Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 12:02pm
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My uncle bought a rural king tractor of about 65hp and is happy with it overall. He had some problems starting it in the cold weather which ended up being poor operators manual. The glow plugs have a 20 second delay so you need to wait 40 to 60 seconds before starting. It has a made in china cummins engine, so parts are available for that from a cummins dealer. The thing that impressed me more than anything was the simplicity of it and some consideration to long term maintenance. The Hyd pumps are all driven off of the accessory gear box on the engine, and are industrial style pumps found at your local industrial/bearing retailer. I have seen several IH belly pumps go out and are very expensive to replace and difficult as well, rebuild are not available from the dealer(there are some after market rebuilders out there now) All the gauges, electronics, and switches should be available from the local napa. Rear end looks similar to an old M international. Of course maintenance is pretty much an owners responsibility. I wonder what kind of parts availability the rear end/front axle will have in the futrure |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 1:33pm
| I wouldn't be caught dead in a Chinese tractor. |
Posted By: Goose
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 1:55pm
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DaveCinIn:
I thought Kubotas were like the modular Japanese cars they say are built in the USA but are really final assembled here from sub assemblies shipped here in sea containers. I could be mistaken though. I have made a mistake once in the past.
Dave:
I thought I made a mistake once in the past, too, but I was mistaken. LOL
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Posted By: bill MD
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 7:54am
| I bougth a mx5000 4x4 with loader in 2003. Love it to death. almost 600 hours. only problem broke throtle cable and seat pins have broken. Great machine. Will start and run at zero with no fuel treatment. Just love it to death. Bill |
Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 8:09am
Whats the difference neither is made in the USA so I wouldn't like either but its hard to find any tractor that is made entirely here. I would guess some of the new repro parts for old tractors are made over seas ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: Kevin(Alabama)
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 8:27am
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In 1998 I received young farmer and rancher of the year in our state, and received 2 years use of I believe was a m9000, I have to agree it was a nice running tractor and it was orange which usually when you win something it will be green. But it was not a Allis Chalmers and I could have bought it after 2 years of running but I let it go back because of it not being a AC. But still again it was a nice tractor. ------------- "I would die a thousand deaths before I would betray a friend."...Sam Davis, Nov. 27, 1863.....DEO VINDICE |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 9:31am
| I just found out that Kubotas are only rated for B5 biodiesel. Puts a serious damper in that quest if it's still the case. |
Posted By: bryani289swmi
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 6:21pm
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MI8050,
Didn't buy mine at Lakeview, bought it at Eding Tractor sales in Hamilton. Byron, what's this about a B5 biodiesel rating?
Bryan ------------- Sticks and stones may break my bones but hollowpoints explode on impact. |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 7:31pm
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They only warranty/allow use of up to 5% biodiesel. New Holland has a lot of engines rated for B100 so does Deutz. Deere is B20. I'm thinking of joining a group that is going in on buying B100 in bulk. I also want to make my own some day and also run engines on Straight Vegetable Oil, (SVO). |
Posted By: BrettPhillips
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 7:49pm
| I believe Deutz has (had?) some engines that are even approved for straight vegetable oil. I know it seems odd to go with the company that began all the heartache in the beginning though. Of course Deutz has also gone through changes, as KHD is no more, and they are now part of SAME, Lamborghini and Hurlimann (used to be SLH group, but now called SAME-Deutz Fahr). |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 8:25pm
| Yeah, the dealer that I'm looking at with the Kubotas also has Deutz. It would be weird. |
Posted By: MI8050
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 8:32pm
| Got my first Allis, the 6080 from Burnips Dorr location even though I lived a mile from the BR store at the time. Wish I kept it, what was I thinking?! |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 8:43pm
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Until the price of biodiesel went up to $6 per gallon, I was using B100 in my M110 for several years in the summer. The only problem was the bio would soften the fuel line and rodents enjoy chewing on the fuel lines. Ran clean and started easily. I almost always use at least B20 year around.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 8:50pm
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I purchased an older JD Compact 855 with loader, 60'' mower and front mount two stage blower with only 600hrs on it. I just love it!!!
Jim
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Posted By: ac45
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 9:07pm
| Kubota resale value is not the greatest after 10 years or so. As to what the kubota dealer saying about your agco being worth less after orange is dropped may have some truth , but you realize he is playing on your fears and disgust and trying to sell you a new tractor. Selling your used agco to buy another brand in no way punishes agco. It is more the old adage of cutting your arm off in spite of your hand. I too am pissed at agco, but in all actuality there will probabbly be some deals on agco tractors in the next few years, and im sure parts and product support will still be around for the tractors that were just a paint job away from the masseys. I personally would go green or red |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2010 at 7:54am
Yeah I'm not going to do that but it seems like that's what you have to do so probably nothing will get done. |
Posted By: bryani289swmi
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2010 at 6:39pm
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I was very happy with the resale of the last two Kubotas I had, we'll see what happens when I move the current one. MI8050, I live a mile east of the Burnips location. Don't get in there very often but they do have an impressive selection of equipment. One time last summer I counted 18 new Claas self propelled choppers in the yard.
Bryan
------------- Sticks and stones may break my bones but hollowpoints explode on impact. |
Posted By: MI8050
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2010 at 7:37pm
| I heard the other day at Voelkers that Carl supposedly sold 120 Claas choppers last year. That's just unreal if it really happened, he does move a bunch more machinery than a guy would think. I know he shipped one to TN and had to go down and help the new owner get it set up for chopping last year. |
Posted By: Joe/NC
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2010 at 8:51pm
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L 35 TBL Real handy user friendly back hoe loader. Been pretty dependable. F 2100 mower 72 inch deck. |
Posted By: JR
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2010 at 10:01pm
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I do not own 1 myself but my partner has a 55 horse 4X4. It works well for light utility use but it can't keep up with my 170 in the field. We move 4X5 round bales with it all the time you have to put 1 on the back or it is hard to handle and very hard to steer. A friend has a New Holland TN65 2WD and we have moved 2 4X5's at one time with no problem. The Kubota is just to light in my opinion. |