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Topic: D14 oil filter?

Posted By: Gary (sw Wis.)
Subject: D14 oil filter?
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 8:51am

I tryed the search feature with no luck so...

What oil filter do you folks run in your D14. Thanks

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Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 8:58am

I believe Fram C159 is the one.

Posted By: rasman57
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 9:01am

I use the NAPA brand....walked in to the local store and laughed before I said " Hey, my 1960 Alice Chalmers D-14 needs a filter, what have you got?" He asked me if it was gas or diesel and hit the computer keys a couple times and slid off the stool and went in the back and got one. Almost reminded me of 25 years ago... But it is a small town NAPA. Sorry I do not have the number but they got em.

Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 9:13am

by-pass filter (threads in to base) is fram # c159 or napa # FIL 7011

and full flow (threads on to base) is fram # ph8a

I think all d-14s use the by-pass filter

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Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 9:22am

Fram C-159 usually priced under 10.00.

Napa 7011 way over priced at around 18.00.

Both will work on you tractor.

I bought a case {6} of the Fram C-159 for $53.00 at Auto-Zone.

I think they went up some since I bought mine.

Posted By: RMD
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 9:40am

The Fram PH8A is the hydraulic/transmission oil filter on the D10/12. I assume that is the same for the D14. I just bought Fram C159 filters from Advance Auto at $7.25 each. I don't think they stock them in most stores, you can order on-line. If you have your car/truck year/make/model entered at the Advance Auto web site it makes it tough to search for the C159 filters since it will only shows parts that fit your car/truck.

Be carefull with NAPA/Wix filters - they changed from the old cotton stuffed design to a modern paper filter design and they don't work right with the old AC engines - you end up low very little oil pressure is you use them.

I have bought Baldwin and Agco filters in the past - they work OK, but are pricey ($16 to $18 each).

Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 10:11am

RMD, Those changes were the old and newer NAPA 1101 filter which I believe are no longer available. The new Napa 7011 and the Fram C-159 are very close with oil pressure.

Good Oil Filter Reading:

http://www.worldpath.net/~thompson/acb/filter/oilfilter.htm - http://www.worldpath.net/~thompson/acb/filter/oilfilter.htm

Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 10:26am

RMD, that is a good price for the C159. Most recently it seems Tractor Supply was selling them for over $10.

Posted By: Mark J N.Y.
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 10:31am

Baldwin T300M around 13.00 bucks........

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Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 10:32am

Dave, I think our Tractor Supply near Hudson, NY is getting $13.00 for the Fram C-159.

Two years ago at the same store they were $5.95 ?????????

I figured $8.00 and change was the best I was going to do and that was with Auto-Zone.

Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 10:39am

Yup, Jeff, TSC sure had a jump in the price for the C159. Didn't have the same increase for other filters. Don't understand it. Guess they do it because they can, it's like with the price of gas . . . .

Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 10:50am

20 years ago you could get the Fram C159 for about $3, no there is no inflation. Thank goodness my Father-in-law gave me a case of T300M after he closed his garage and I got 5 cases (12each) of the later D17 oil filter too.

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Posted By: Gary (sw Wis.)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 11:17am

Wow, you guys are fast.

Thank you!!!!

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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 12:31pm

The C-159 Fram is the only Fram filter I will use on anything. It's pretty tough to make cheap the filtering material they use. Anything else, forget it. Wix or Purolator only. Once you cut open a Fram and a Wix, you'll never buy another Fram.

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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 12:55pm

Yeah, the price of those C-159s has gone up tremendously. My "new" D-17 series II takes the same filter as the Ford FL-1A and they (or the equivalent) can be found cheaply anywhere. I wonder what it would take to convert my WD and WD-45s to the "full flow" system of the D-17s?

Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 1:01pm

I think you'll need to switch to the newer 226 D17 engine that has that type of system on it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they redesign the engine so all of the oil goes through the filter first and then on to the rest of the engine? The first design just takes a small amout of the oil pumped and dumps it back to the pan after going through the filter.

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Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 2:01pm

Is anyone aware of what they are using in filters these days? Paper? Syenthic media? or what? Ted and I tore apart and old un used OEM WC rolled top filter to make a pen holder in the shop. DONT WORRY IT WAS RUSTED THROUGH other wise we wouldn't have ruined such a great filter. But we found they used cotton waste from the knitting industry, and a lot of it! We are currently using the baldwin filters and i believe the fram filters. But if memory serves me right the last filter we got from AGCO was under $10 and still has the cotton waste in it. That was just this last summer. Hope this helps. Matt Pehl Davis, il

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Posted By: Gary (sw Wis.)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 4:28pm

I got the oil changed today. But now I have no oil pressure. I there some trick I don't know about these by pass filters?

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190XT - D17 - D14 - WD45 w/loader - WD - (2)B110 - 616H - 610 - B-208 - WD with 190 Mounted Corn Picker - All Crop 60

Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 4:41pm

Did you pull out the center tube from the base with the old filter? There should be a metal thin tube shorter than the filter that sticks up into the filter, sometimes this sticks into the old one and come out with it. Also some times the system looses its prime and you have to pour oil down the hole in the base(after the pan is mostly filled) to fill the pickup tube.

Pressure on my CA is alway slightly low for a few hours until the cotton gets good and saturated.

Posted By: RichinWis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2010 at 5:34pm

Gary, make sure they gave you a filter that is stuffed with the cotton, if they gave you one with the rubber bulb in it, and you keep running your engine you will ruin it! Some auto parts stores still have them bad ones on the shelf and still try to sell them, which is very irritating. Even the Agco reps told my Dad and me that it didn't matter at the gathering in union Grove. My Dad did give the young man a talking to!