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Topic: 616 Cotton Picker
Posted By: DeanSWMO
Subject: 616 Cotton Picker
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2010 at 6:20pm
Just added a 616 Cotton Picker to the collection. Was wondering if anybody had a Owners Manual or Part Manual to one.



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Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2010 at 8:27pm
Dean - posts some pics please of your 616.  Don't see photos of those very often at all.  Mike

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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers


Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 6:04am
Dean, does the 616 happen to have the 262 gas engine option?


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 12:34pm
we had 3, model 500 cotton pickers when I was a kid in South Texas in the 70's. they were old and rusty then, and hard to get parts for, so they got parked. they were cut up for scrap when we sold the farm in early 80's. I've wondered how many are still around. Two were diesel, one was gas. We didnt even save the D17 part of them! kinda sad! We did sell the engines to the local AC dealer though.

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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!


Posted By: DeanSWMO
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 7:27pm
Here are some pictures. The John Deere on the front of the trailer is not ours we had to enlist the help of a John Deere guy to haul it to Southwest Missouri from South Texas. It seems to be in pretty good shape the engine is stuck but that should not be any big deal. We also got several parts with it.





 




Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 7:56pm
WOW! that ole girl is in really good shape for south Texas. Our stuff rusted so bad down there because of the salty humidity. we were in the rio grande valley though. where did this come from. that 616 sure has alot bigger basket than the 500. cool find!

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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!


Posted By: D-17_Dave
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 7:57pm
I had one at one time. Bought it just after the PO pulled the gas 226 chassis out from under the picker. I wish I could have hauled the whole thing home but I only got the chassis and an extra worn out 17. I took the 2 and made 1. Wish I hadn't hit hard times a few years back and had to part with it.


Posted By: Armand(AZ)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 8:04pm
Now that will make for a neat model!!!     Armand


Posted By: DeanSWMO
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 8:17pm
Actually, it was probably not true South Texas it came from about 40 miles southeast of Houston. Pulled it right out of the barn is had been in most of its life. 


Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 8:35pm
Armand, I can see the wheels turning from here


Posted By: EricTn
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 8:56pm
D17-Dave, I remember seeing one in the early 80's near Salisbury, NC not far from you. Been gone now several years. Wonder if it was the one you got! Was on Woodleaf Rd. Eric


Posted By: den/southern illinoi
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 9:00pm
First of all...hope the pictures work...got the first to preview and then could not get the whole thing to preview. 
This is a 616 cotton picker redone by Gerald Zacheis of Steeleville and usually at his museum in Sparta, Illinois.  These pictures were taken at the American Thresherman Association Show at Pinckneyville.  I can't remember if this is the first or second verson of the 616.  He redid one and then a couple years later, got a second and put the best of the two together in what may be call his second verson.





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Posted By: D-17_Dave
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 9:06am
Eric, no that isn't the one. I knew about one in lower Davie county where I live now but it was in horrible condition. Wouldn't sell it and it went to scrap later. I got mine out of Bennettsville SC where I grew up. I did get the steering tower, valve body, lights, and a lot of oil drip cups and parts off of it before I quit.



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