Rescue by Allis 45
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Topic: Rescue by Allis 45
Posted By: Ian Beale
Subject: Rescue by Allis 45
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2013 at 4:51am
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Darrel in ND
Rescue by Allis 45
Acronym to follow - Been there done that BTDT
I'm in the process of desilting a pond (dam in our terms) with an excavation of about 4000 cu yards.
Rules for starters - never work out on the silt as you'll break through. BTDT
These ponds have batters of about 3:1, so as you skim around the edges you're working on a slope. BTDT
Which crawlers don't like with the downside track full of mud. BTDT
So you have a fine line between getting a blade part full out and ending up not being able to bail out, as the batters are hard and well greased with mud. And when you get to about 3 foot mud level the bottom layer is about right for pottery clay. BTDT
Our FA 10 has a straight tilt blade, which is magic for getting the silt up at almost impossible angles, and you might have to rock between float and up to get traction at the top of the batter. But at 10 feet wide there is not a lot of room for error as the tracks are pretty close to the mud. An angle blade at 13'6 would have some more latitude but would have to be made to tilt.
Which error I made on the last pass yesterday. With about an hour of daylight. And possible storms. Fortunately on a corner.
RESCUED BY OUR aLLIS 45 GRADER.
With the timeframe photos were not a priority.
And no storms either.
Keeps my record intact - one desilted dam, one bogged dozer.
I'll work on some photos later.
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Posted By: Dozer
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2013 at 6:55am
| BTDT I was repairing a pond with my HD5G. I went down the bank and was cutting a path thru 3 ft of silt by lifting a bucket full and working a large pile of silt to the far side. While in the trench the track came off. I was unable to pull the HD5 out as the trench filled with water. The repair involved my trash pump, a shovel, and fixing the track in the mud. I did the same thing years earlier using my M dozer with an "armstrong" starter. I stalled it in the trench with the blade covering the hole for the starting crank. Shovel, Dig, Mud Mud Mud BTDT |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 6:40pm
| And the moral of the story is that I should get my 45 road grader going? LOL! Darrel |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 7:55pm
Sounds like work for a drag line 
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Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 4:18am
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Darrel,
On days like that one it will be worth its weight in orange paint!
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Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 4:28am
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CTUCKER
Needs must at times.
Dragline would be fine, but rarer than rocking horse output in our vicinity.
Then we could go excavator or loader but don't have either. And $ is short.
Looks like we've found the corner that will let me get to the flat of the bottom, where the dozer has a more equal chance than in the 3:1 batters.
More when I know more
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 12:08pm
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Years back I did a de-silting of a trout stream with my HD5G - worked but was quite a job of trying to push silt up and out . Few years later did same stream again - well until DNR can in and stopped owner as silt was washing down stream. He got a permit and then a drag-line in to complete and I used my D6-9U to push spoils from drag-line out and into surrounding areas. What was odd is property was owned by a County Judge and when the DNR showed up he pleaded ignorance on the fact he needed a DNR permit to work on stream bed. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |