Weight Brackets on a WD
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Topic: Weight Brackets on a WD
Posted By: cotncrzy
Subject: Weight Brackets on a WD
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2013 at 2:16pm
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I want to change my weight bracket set up on my tractor before the season begins. I want to mount the weight "side ways", instead of foreward and I plan on moving to battery up there also. I think I overkilled the one that is on it now. What do you guys use for material? I have eas some that looked weak that seemed to work.. Pics will help. ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
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Posted By: Fields
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2013 at 5:33pm
A couple of years ago I had Phil Brown aka d17brown on here build me a wd45 pulling tractor. He did excellent work. the weights are sideways and 11 feet out from the center of the rear wheels.
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Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2013 at 6:41pm
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That is exactly what I am looking for! What thickness is the metal? ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2013 at 6:43pm
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Whats on the back? ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: Fields
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2013 at 8:40pm
rear view the final drives are taped for corn picker mounts so use them holes. the center is bolted to the factory holes and the draw bar is a non snap coupler front half .  
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Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2013 at 6:36am
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What thickness of material is the front bracket made of? ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: Fields
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 3:38pm
| I'll try to measure it tonight. Last I know Phile had a steel one Just like this for sale. He made a Aluminum one fro himself. |
Posted By: Fields
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 10:21am
| The main beam is 1/2 " you could build it lighter. mine is 150 to 200 pounds I'd have to weight it. |
Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2013 at 8:11am
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Thanks for the help on the weight bracket! I posted pics on the facebook page. I added several pounds to the tractor. The bracket was made from 3/8 instead of 1/2. I probably over killed the bracing, I always do. total weight is 125#. The origional that was 16" shorter weighed 65#. Trying to figure out how much I could loose going to 4x15 aluminum wheels instead of the 4x16 steel, with 5.50x16 tires. ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: Fields
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2013 at 8:14pm
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I think I saw that picture on facebook. |
Posted By: WildBill
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 2:41pm
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Fields ? What did that tractor weight ? Cotn? What's ur tractor weight ? I'm trying to decide if an aluminum front end will benefit me or not ? I'm hunting down a feller up here with an (h) and with him sitting on it he's at 3400 lbs. have a pull coming up and looking to take him on in 3700 lb class . In percentage pull I can beat him . But this will be a distance pull this time . WILDBILL ------------- Allis fan for life ! B,C,2-WC'S,WD45G,D19G,190xt ,LLSS 8010, terra tiger refurbished |
Posted By: Fields
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 3:23pm
| Well it was 3800 with me on it when I first built it. The front end was the heavy wd45 one. I changed it to a early wc one. From what I have learned there are 3 differnt weight narrows. The early wc are 120# the mid to wd ones are 180# and the wd45 ones are 320# a wide front is 350# . Phile built a Aluminum one like the one he build for me. I think he said it was like 100# lighter than the steel one. I think with the 13.6-38 wheels on back and no front weight braket it would be 3200# bare. |
Posted By: WildBill
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 3:37pm
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Thanks Fields. I'm gonna be close. I did buy a flaming river rack and pinion. . Think I will just use light weight steel and fab the wide front end with rack and pinion. Odds of me finding the 120# front end are slim. I will make a few calls tomorrow . Wonder where cotn is at for weight . I dropped about everything possible except the hand clutch stuff. I gotta keep the blasted thing cause of girlfriend and my son like to pull it. I have an extra wc chassis suppose I could steel the bolster. Lol. Ok se ya Fields ------------- Allis fan for life ! B,C,2-WC'S,WD45G,D19G,190xt ,LLSS 8010, terra tiger refurbished |
Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 5:40am
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My tractor weighed 3300 pounds before the new weight bracket. Now we looking at 3365. I still have the hand clutch, my eight year old uses it. My oldest son pulls it in the 3500# class, now with him on it we will weigh in at 3545. I may have to go to aluminum front wheels to keep him in the 3500. ------------- C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM! |
Posted By: WildBill
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 9:18am
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Thanks Cotn for the info. same as well from Fields. i dropped the wide front yesterday and noticed grandpa must have put a wd front end on it. wish i could ask him what happened but i think no cell phones in coffins allowed. Anyways I left the gear box in the frame and noticed the tie rod arm was bolted on. so i unbolted it and cleaned off the oil and noticed the spindle or hub has 5 bolt pattern ? here's my thought . Make a narrow front out of schedule 40 tube and bolting it to the hub under the gear box. would be at best 24 inches of 4inch or 4.5 inch tube. Then i could pick the spindles and hubs for the aluminum wheels i have from my buddys rail drag car. he gave me weld lite drag rims which are 23# each. This will also allow a person to set the rake at desired height.
Question? Has anyone ever seen this ? I noticed in HOOK Magazine a feller was selling light weight bolsters for IH crap. obviolusly He cut he cast out and welded in a new tube. I also noticed towards the back of the Magazine there was a guy with a Wc in the 3000# class ? Aluminum frame rails would be easy to make also. My theory is to load the rear wheels better and front weight bracket. I have race car Scales to equal the offset better on right side and left side. I learned in aviation school about (cgw) center of gravity weight theory and was trying to adapt this into my pulling career. Maybe a new thread I should have started but I will see if there is any feed back. ------------- Allis fan for life ! B,C,2-WC'S,WD45G,D19G,190xt ,LLSS 8010, terra tiger refurbished |
Posted By: firephight
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2013 at 5:21pm
| Good idea of the aluminum frame rails. |
Posted By: WildBill
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2013 at 5:34pm
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Thanks . I know a guy could shave some weight . Then just paint them to match . ------------- Allis fan for life ! B,C,2-WC'S,WD45G,D19G,190xt ,LLSS 8010, terra tiger refurbished |
Posted By: EricSWPA
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2013 at 9:42pm
| My WC made 3000 lb when I weighed 200lbs with 13.6 38 tires on the back but it was close lol my buddy that does a lot of my welding suggested aluminum frame rail. But it made it might be a idea for a WD though] |
Posted By: WildBill
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 9:19am
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i priced the 6" channel and about fell over .lol . I have a d19 that would be cool to have on a diet and see how light it could be. i'm 225 lbs and dont think i will ever make the 3,000 mark on my Wc with me on it and a little front end weight. oh well life goes on. ------------- Allis fan for life ! B,C,2-WC'S,WD45G,D19G,190xt ,LLSS 8010, terra tiger refurbished |
Posted By: bigcountry48
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2014 at 1:08pm
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I know this was posted a while back, but does anyone know the exact dimensions of the weight rack in that picture? Thanks! ------------- 1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45 |
Posted By: Brians1946
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 9:05pm
I must've just hit the lottery with my WC. i stripped of the PTO and clutch pulley, built a home-made adjustable hitch, and with me on it, i can put on 80 lbs, and still in 3000lb class. (i'm 205 so thats not a factor). Running 13.9x28 rears with the cast centers. no major modifications done
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Posted By: pohlman249
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 5:02am
| I do have a cast chronicler front end that I got from Steve that bolts on like the one you are thinking of fabing up there Wild Bill |
Posted By: rowcropmafia
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 12:20pm
| What is holding that weight in front of that tractor? Is it flying? |
Posted By: rowcropmafia
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 12:23pm
| Now I see the bracket. I guess im a little more color blind than I thought lol |
Posted By: Dirty Harry
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 11:48pm
| Thats a nice hood you got there. |
Posted By: Brians1946
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2014 at 10:19pm
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That bracket did the job, until in the next class i piled on more than i usually do, then bounced the front end and lost some, DQ'ing a full pull, DOH! so this year i'm going to borrow some from this idea And as far as the hood, Its almost time to start teardown for paint  |