Will WD pull JD 7000 planter
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Topic: Will WD pull JD 7000 planter
Posted By: JoeS
Subject: Will WD pull JD 7000 planter
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 5:08pm
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Hello all, I am new to the forum here and was interested if my 1948 Allis Chalmers WD would be capable of pulling a 4 row John Deere 7000 planter. I am interested in planting around 12 acres and just looking for something to get started. Thanks for any help, Joe
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Posted By: Brandon
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 5:35pm
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Oh, it will probably pull it. Hydraulics would be my question.
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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 5:41pm
we pulled one with fertlizer with a d17 for years a 7000 drives from the lift wheels so you dont need two way hydrolics
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 8:06pm
It will pull it, you only need to get to about 5 mph for good planting. Lifting is simple effectively single ended cylinder for the lift and absolutely for the marker. I've planted about a decade pulling a 4 row 7000 with my MF-135 geared up and running about 1600 rpm, fast idle for that tractor. Its not a heavy load for it even notill with straight plow coulters, Dawn trash whippers, and carrying my three point sprayer to supply 32% to the ammonia knives mounted behind the (allis) plow coulters. I separated the marker from the lift so I could get the marker down quicker. It doesn't need 3000 psi hydraulics either, 2250 is what it was built for. The marker won't shorten enough to reach the center of the tractor, you set it for the far tractor wheel, and its easy to keep a front wheel in the mark for very accurate guess rows. Have you a manual, its critical for proper setup?
Gerald J.
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Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 9:55pm
Hi Gerald, your comment about shortening the marker has me puzzled? it shouldn't matter what tractor is pulling the planter, the marker is set to the row spacing of the planter, ex 36", 38", etc.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 10:17pm
Not in this case. Often the marker is set to 1/2 the planter width plus half a row from the outside row so the mark gets centered under the tractor. In the 4 row narrow JD planter the marker is set to half the planter width plus the tractor tire track. E.g. from the outside row for 30" rows with the tractor wheels on 60" centers, its 45" for half the planter width (3 spaces each 30") plus 60" for the tractor width.
Or by JD's measure the disk is 13 inches from the end of the marker tube. or 12" for a 36" wide row. The frame's are different length, my planter was converted from wide to narrow, so I measure from the outside row to the disk and that's 105" then JD says, "The front tire farthest from the last pass will run IN the marker disk furrow." And I find that to be way more precise than looking over the tractor hood.
You need a planter manual to make good use of the planter. I used to have a spare, but I think I sold it. I'll go look some more later.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2012 at 10:19pm
Or for 36" rows with a tractor set to 72" center to center, the disk should be one half of 3 x 36 or 1/2 of 108 which is 54 plus 72 for 126" from the outside row.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 7:15am
Thanks Gerald that makes sense for 30's, but I missed the part anywhere about 30" rows?
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Posted By: bill2260
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 7:22am
Posted By: JoeS
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2012 at 6:13pm
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Thanks for the replies. So the only the only thing i would need to use hydraulics for would be the markers correct?
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2012 at 6:52pm
You need hydraulics for lifting and for markers. The planter is often rigged for one double acting cylinder for lifting, while the markers tap off the lift hose and the marker cylinder is single acting. I separated them and converted the lift cylinder to single acting since its mechanically single action, pulling doesn't pull the planter down it just stops pushing it up. And you don't want to feed either of those cylinders 4000 psi.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2012 at 7:17pm
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We planted alot of corn with a D17 and a JD 7000 you can get by just fine. Had the hydrualics rigged up so only had one hose going to the tractor. Having the markers seperate from the lift is very nice but for the 12 acres you are looking at it is not neccessary. For 12 acres you could not get a better planter than a 7000 JD. Had a bleeder on the return side of the cylinder.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2012 at 9:14pm
Most farm stores carry a cylinder vent for converting a double acting cylinder to single acting. Its a plug with felt or screen to keep bugs and some dirt out of the cylinder.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2012 at 11:15pm
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Put an AC lift cyl from the the early years on my 6-30 7000 and tee'd the marker hose to it. Works great. WD45 is the planting tractor. You won't have a problem with a WD on a 4 row.
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Posted By: clint
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2012 at 8:03am
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yes- and you dont need a marker. it just tills a nice spot for weeds. get a pipe or board the width you need (your width plus a row width on each side) fron the front of the tractor- then hang a chain or flat chain section from the board to the ground and drive right over the last row. i have planted 1000 acres like this- in trash the row cleaners help a lot. if in tilled ground will be fine.
5 mph is the max on a finger 7000- better at 4 - 4.5. even at 4.5 the speed for the finger is 60 mph. make sure the clutch is working fine. tire pressure needs to be exactly 40 for the stuff in the book to be accurate.
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