Agco=Your Massey Company
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Topic: Agco=Your Massey Company
Posted By: Michael (WI)
Subject: Agco=Your Massey Company
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 10:40pm
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I saw this article in the Country Today and of course zero mentione of Gleaner, just bragging up Massey-Harris as the first self-propelled combine.
Of course it is a great thing they did by presenting Old Glory. It just makes you sick they forget their heritage so fast.
http://www.thecountrytoday.com/farm/article_d3224e80-d5cd-11e1-9b33-001a4bcf887a.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.thecountrytoday.com/farm/article_d3224e80-d5cd-11e1-9b33-001a4bcf887a.html
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 11:33pm
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Well, since Mr Cobb is the MF product marketing guy, it does make sense that he would be talking up MF. Of course a mention of Gleaner and/or AC pull type combines (the biggest selling pull types made).
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:36am
| They should seriously change the name of the company, but they think Agco, Your Agriculture Company is perfect, i told them what it really stands for, they got all bent out of shape |
Posted By: Kurt WI
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 5:48am
| What they really should call themselves is WELL BUY YOU OUT AND PAINT YOU RED AND CALL YOU A MASSY!!!! |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 6:14am
| Drink a coffee,think of the good old day's and move on . |
Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 8:24am
| Doug. Keep up the good work. Consider it a form of exercise. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 12:04pm
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Leave AGCO alone, they are trying to run a company and make decisions that they think are best. Allis died in the mid "80"'s, they will not be back. If you want AGCO to do want you think is best then belly up to the bar, get your wallet out, buy up over 51% of the stock, and start making the calls. Untill then, all you're doing is stirring the pot with your misplaced loyalty. Thereby making AGCO unwilling to entertain any ideas having to do with Allis Chalmers equipment. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: NEJim
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 12:49pm
| I grew up with Allis and still have several Allis tractors but I also have 2 Massey tractors. Allis is gone and I have to proceed to make a living. That doesn't mean I like what AGCO did but that's life. I do like the features MF have and I know they originated with AC. Besides they're not green/yellow..... We'll just have to live with it. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:33pm
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Some sure get all uptight when you criticize AGCO..........errr I mean Massey Ferguson............spit spit spit. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:34pm
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You guys that say move on,or they died in 1985.......Why are you still messing with Allis Chalmers. Why dont you move on and collect and restore a tractor line that is still making tractors ? Like it or not you cant make Agco go away,you have to go there to get parts for the Allis Chalmers tractors. They dictate the price we pay for parts. So as far as I am concerned bitch away !!!!!!!!!!!! IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:38pm
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It's guys especially like ILGLEANER that have paid the price for AGCO's bumbling. The value of my own older machinery takes a beating when AGCO pushes itself out of the US market. Parts get higher priced and harder to find etc etc. I'm with ya IG, bitch away! ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:43pm
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Leave AGGO alone.....go buy New Holland, or Kubota or John Deere that's what I did. As much as I love Allis equipment I won't buy one because I don't want to have buy parts from AGCO who has lied to me personally. It's impossible for any one person to buy 51% of AGCO at this time, (I looked into it back when they switched), but if enough guys don't by their bull then maybe they'll listen.
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Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 5:10pm
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Many times I have seen the Deere followers Pay sometimes as much as double for there green stuff just becouse its Green and yellow.
And I have seen many people complain about the price of AGCO parts and when compaired to a similar Green/ yellow part they don't complain any more.
Everything in the real world is expensive. You need to shop and compair before you complain. I am sure that AGCO has people that look at there competitiveness and adjust accordingly. If you see prices that are out of line and you have something real to compair to you can buy the cheaper items and keep quiet or you can buy the cheaper item and tell AGCO why you bought it. or you can buy the AGCO part.
But don't complain about expensive parts unless you have compaired it with something else. ------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 5:14pm
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That fact that this broken record argument came up on this article is actually pretty funny. Have any of you read the article????? Its about the new MF combines. It only talks about MF combines and NOTHING else. They are promoting the new combines JUST like they did a couple years ago when they came out the Gleaner Super Series. Oh and the guy interviewed in the article put on a Gleaner product meeting the othe day that I attended. The end of the orange tractor line was a mistake but we havent seen the end of it and this is nothing new! Its been happening for the last 100 years! Look at what A-C did to Advance Rumely! If the numbers of farmers keeps declining like it does in another 100 years there will only be one or two brands left! As a dealer employee I am personally offended by these remarks, especially when I make that extra effort to try to find people the parts and give them the service support for the older items. Jim
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Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 5:20pm
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The problem with that Dave, If Agco would just drop AC parts altogether. Then maybe we could get some sideline company to make more of the AC part at competetive prices. I just got 2 bolts at my AGCO dealer yesterday for the steering cylinder on a 220. 42.00 a piece. They are a 3 inch bolt fine threaded,with a castle nut....thats stupid. From a company that has taken away Orange tractors. And I have bought alot of green and yellow parts, there is no way they are higher then Agco. Quart of Persion orange at Agco. 80 bucks. IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 5:23pm
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Jim, dont take it personal. But you are they guys that have no choice. I can go buy some other color. You guys are stuck with the counterfeits. IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 5:29pm
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I am glad that AGCO is still there supplying Allis Chalmers parts, otherwise there would be a lot of parts not available because no one would make them.
------------- CA, WD, C, 3 Bs, 2 Gs, WC, I-400, 914 |
Posted By: AC 426 power
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 5:56pm
| Its unfortunate that AC had to die in the matter that it did and it would have been nice for them too ended up like lets say IH and still live on although there just basically a decal but still it would have been nice to see AC have some sort of existence. Although we still do have gleaner Lol. |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 6:48pm
| like my coffee black ,no sugar Please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:27pm
A grass stick for the mower $4.65 which is a nice, low price. I don't complain about AGCO, I don't like to pay high prices but I do need the parts and where ever you go you're going to pay. So if you want AGCO to resent the old Allis-Chalmers name and equipment just keep on complaining and they may stop suppling Allis parts all together. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
ILGLEANER wrote:Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:35pm
Im almost certain there are no pull type combines being made any more?
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Posted By: ACscott
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:47pm
| Guys I can see both sides of this story, you guys say just order them online, support one of the vendors etc which is fine and I have done it before. But sometimes I like going to agco they have the correct filters even with the ac logo, we have a couple good parts guys that try their best to get you the parts, if the parts are too much I look some place else. If you order a part and its wrong they send it back. Ordering online you have to deal with all the shipping BS twice if the part is wrong. I know we have never owned a newer agco product so I cant speak about that. This whole deal with agco is kind of like the old saying "when life gives you lemons make lemonade". Maybe some guy can make a new business reproducing old ac parts. all in all I hope agco doesn't stop making parts for my tractors that are 50-60 years old because no one is making them keep making parts. |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 8:34pm
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I see it both ways. And I also like driving 50 miles to my local Agco dealer. All other colors are 5 miles away. But you cant say they died,or move on . And say Agco has nothing to do with Allis Chalmers. If they died,there wouldnt be any parts to buy. And if you say move on,you wouldnt be going to the AGCO dealer to get Allis Chalmers parts. That is all I am saying, there roots come from Allis Chalmers. They are ALLIS GLEANER COMPANY. IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 8:59pm
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Im almost certain there are no pull type combines being made any more?
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ACWD45, you'd be wrong! Head up to Canada in September and watch the Canola harvest as Four wheel drive tractors pull BIG IH and Deere pull type combines around the field picking up windrows made with 30 and 40 foot windrowers. Been there, seen that. It was interesting. That was in 2000. ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |
Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 9:40pm
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Well I hate to add to the fire, but a rumor I had heard from somebody else recently is that there is supposed to be orange tractors produced again with the A-C name on them from AGCO in the future. I think it would be awesome, but I highly doubt its the truth, although the person that told me said he read it somewhere just recently. I don't know what to think of it. ------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: Austin(WI)
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 10:08pm
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You should ask him where he read that...Im curious. ------------- "Better By Design" |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:09am
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Well I can beat a dead horse with the best of you. Lets see, a combine designed by White, produced by the Allis Gleaner Company and called a Massey... and even though Massey quit building combines in the 1980s the "history" dates back to the Canadian company Massey HARRIS and it's all wrapped up in an American flag to boot. But don't pick on them, yes it's all BS but it ain't easy to move those things when your competition has better designs, better resale and more dealers so they're just trying to sell them any way they can.
------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 4:56am
| Amen Fred . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 6:07am
Ride a dead horse Or beat a dead horse  I know which one I prefer and it ain't riding one  ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 7:20am
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Why do I think of Bill Murray in Ground Hog Day whenever this subject comes up? ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 9:49am
| Think i will have sugar to day ,2 lump's ,Please !!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:26am
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For my size of tractor on my farm New Holland has more tractor for the money. I have a TS100A now and really enjoy driving it. Most people that say drop it don't own any AGCO equipment.
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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:37am
------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:53am
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My Grandpa was way ahead of the curve. The first new tractor that he owned was a WC. This was followed by 2 other used WCs. 25 years after buying his first new tractor(the WC) He bought another new tractor. This one was a MF35!! Little did he know that it was all in the family. Long live AGCO...Kip ------------- HANSEN'S OLD ORANGE IRON. Showing, Pulling, & Going!! |
Posted By: AC 426 power
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:05pm
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Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:49pm
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For me AGCO came across this way. If you are a new MF or new Challenger customer, AGCO wants to please you. If you are one of the loyal customers that hung with AGCO through the bad early years and then the very bad SAME rebadge years, Pizz off AGCO don't value your loyalty.
For me it as nothing to with AC. Like others stated 1985 was it. I aint bought one AC part from AGCO yet and I doubt I ever will. I feel bad for these guys that are brainwashed into believing that they need AGCO to be there so they can own a AC tractor.
DennisA stated "Nor do I see how harassing Agco will help the Allis-Chalmers cause."
By not being vocal gives them the false idea that AGCO was right and former AC cusomers were no value to them.
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Posted By: Josh Day
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 3:41pm
| At lest we have Sandy Lake IMP. |
Posted By: Michael (WI)
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 3:58pm
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I am sorry I posted this item now for all the commotion it has stirred up, I guess deep down I knew better. I have considered and can see both sides of this particular coin. My only simple gripe is the following:
Agco could have said, we were previously known as and started life as the Allis Gleaner Co., but have decided to make a branding shift for the betterment of the company. (we could argues "betterment" all day but lets not.)
Instead, from the reports recieved by others, they flat out lie and deny the factual past.
I suppose I just added fuel to the fire for posting this but I wanted to clarify my point in case some have formed a negative opinion of me based on their preception of my arguement.
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 4:03pm
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I had made up my mind that I didn't care what AGCO did, because I was an Allis Chalmers man. But then I bought an AGCO tractor this last winter; a 9755 that is probably about 12 years old. When I needed a new engine fan for it and couldn't get one from AGCO, I got slightly pissed off at the company. After doing research, I was able to find one for it through a company called kit masters (thanks to Allis Freak), and it turned out to be the exact same thing as the original. Why couldn't AGCO find it for me? Quite a few years ago, when I was working for a caseIH/Ford New Holland dealer, the two companies merged to form CNH. The company reps were coming around tooting their horns that John Deere was fighting the merger and scared of it. Mean while what John Deere actually was saying was that they were not afraid of CNH, but were starting to fear Cat, as it was rising up in the ag sector. Seems to me that since AGCO has aquired the Cat challenger line, John Deere hasn't got much to fear. Darrel
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Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 6:02pm
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Michael, I know, I remember when I posted " Why doesn't Massey Ferguson get much Love here". I miss our Ferguson 30 it was real easy to climb on board. |
Posted By: EricSWPA
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 8:16pm
| All i know is ive yet to drive a massey that i can say i like. If i ever get something newer it will prob be a new holland agcos track record of killing brands dose not promote consumer confidence. |
Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 8:42pm
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If Allis Chalmers would have closed the doors and sold off the pieces You guys wouldn't have AGCO to complain about. If AGCO gets the Allis Chalmers name and puts it on a line of tractor and equipment You guys will always find something wrong with it to complain about Becouse Allis Chalmers will never exist the way it was.------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:21pm
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Everyone has there opinions on everything. Alot of people think Allis Chalmers died in 1985. It didnt, it sold its Ag division off. As of last year Allis Chalmers still existed as far as I knew. But to each there own. I guess everytime someone starts talking about anything older then a D series I am just going to jump on that thread , say stupid things about there old tractors and tell them I hope they get scraped and hauled to China, because I couldnt care less about anything before the D series. That is just my opinoin, but that will become more the standard in another 10 years. The younger crowd likes the D series and 100 series, I guess that makes me in the younger crowd
IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 12:30am
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John, I see your point from a usefullness point of view. From my usefullness point of view, I wont have anything but a C, because I need mounted cultivators(I know other tractors have mounted cultivators, Cs are just the easiest to use). Here's my .02 on the combine situation. The combine shown is very patriotic, which helps sell. That's the ONLY reason it is painted that way. Most importantly, it is a Massey branded combine. It is patterned after Gleaner technology, partly attributed to by White, but mostly started by Baldwin, who started the Gleaner line, who were bought out by Allis Chalmers in the late 50s. It has no more "heritage" with AC than ANY Gleaner combine ever made. It was a line that they bought out, just like Rumely, and just like they too were bought out. They used the technology because it worked for them at the time and they didnt have to spend time and money on the R&D. Now AC has been bought out by AGCO. I know it was originally started as the Allis Gleaner company, but interests have changed since then. The company changed to keep up with marketing trends, and NEVER will be the Allis Gleaner company again. That died a long time ago too. Just enjoy your orange tractors for the fact that you have something that was made here in America(most of them) in a time when we all had it better than any of us do now. All the other stuff is just a waste of time and blood pressure medication. ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
Posted By: AC 426 power
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 1:03am
| If AGCO does not stand for Allis Gleaner Company now a days then what does it stand for? |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 2:01am
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I say thank you AGCO for continuing to supply essential parts for my 40 year old tractor. It is a shame that the original company went belly up and everyone lost their jobs. A business lesson to stay lean and be able to re-size to the times. From Wikpedia: The Allis-Chalmers Manufacturing Co. of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Allis,_Wisconsin" rel="nofollow - West Allis, Wisconsin , is an American company known for its past as a manufacturer with diverse interests, perhaps most famous for their bright Persian Orange farm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor" rel="nofollow - tractors . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allis-Chalmers#cite_note-0" rel="nofollow - [1] The company eventually divested its manufacturing businesses to become http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allis-Chalmers_Energy" rel="nofollow - Allis-Chalmers Energy . Allis-Chalmers Energy then merged with Seawell to form Archer, a drilling and well service company. I say t would appear that Allis-Chalmers is dead. In 1980, which company was bigger globally, Allis-Chalmers or Massey Ferguson? |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 5:28am
| More COFFEE , |
Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 5:34am
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Fred if you are having trouble sleeping and reading this doesn't help lay off the coffee. ------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 5:43am
Next question "thats stupid" were you refering to the seller or the buyer? If there is nothing special about that bolt and they got $42 from you they are genius.
------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: Hudsonator
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 8:01am
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I bought a 543 Massey in '07. The reason was, it stuck to time-tested engineering. It has proven to be an extremely tough tractor in my operation. It catches the rough stuff and handles it better than my JD tractor 1/3 larger in size. No joke. Also, it burns 1/2 the fuel of the JD at the same job.
One of the deciding factors in buying the Massey - a Perkins engine. Also, time-tested and beyond reproach.
Well, Massey has decided to change all this. Phasing out Perkins in favor of the Indian SISU/Simpson. They are also screwing around with the transmissions - they look nowhere near as heavy as they did before. The local Massey dealer has confided in me that these "new" combinations (particularly the Simpson engine) aren't working out all that well. My reply, "IF it ain't broke - don't fix it".
I look at my 543, parked next to a WD, and think to myself - "Yep, you are the last of your kind as well". The conclusion, AGCO isn't even building Masseys anymore. ------------- There isn't much a WC can't do. WD's just do it better. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 8:10am
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John, I'm sorry you're so bitter. Hope that will change some day as life is just too short to carry such a heavy load. Try not to concern yourself with matters you have no control of, there's no point. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 8:45am
| Orange is gone and so am I !!!!!!!! Now that is " Courage and Wisdom " !!!!!!!!! LOL !!! |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 9:07am
Don't believe for a minute AGCO is the pernenant name of this coporation. It takes time to make changes, I think AGCO has changed the name twice since the company was formed albeit only slightly. Something the "Leave AGCO alone" people keep saying that I find ignorant is that Allis Chalmers was gone in 1985 so get over it, how ever the Allis in Duetz-ALLIS says otherwise altho Duetz made a concerted effort to destroy as much AC history as they could most of the dealer network, parts distribution, equipment manufactoring and workforce was still the original AC infrustructure. The customer base such as it was, were generally AC customers loyal to their local dealer. Deutz failed to set the world on fire with their obsolete line of green Whites repowered with air cooled motors and their over all poor management. Then after that failure the company was sold to former Allis Chalmers executives who built AGCO the ALLIS GLEANER company. Yes Allis Chalmers agriculteral division ended in 1985 but the company that is AGCO has roots that are directly linked to it. Now Massey Ferguson ended as a company when it was bought by AGCO, none of the large tractors or any equipment sold today in North America has any real connection to Massey. Massey is just a name owned by AGCO they could have just as easily used White or Oliver or Minne Moline and in N.A. the sales may have been better. I know AC is gone it's just a shame AGCO is going too. The thing that bugs me is they had the tools and products to be the number 2 farm equipment company in N.A. before the blunder of giving Challenger the only 4WD & tracked tractors and then dropping their best bselling orange line all together. Given the tools like orange track tractors and 4 wds as well as the B series of DTs and AGCO could be giving Fiat or rather Case - New Holland a run for the money, heck they might even have had Deere worried, but not now, not ever Unlike a lot of people on this board I might have been in the market for an AGCO tractor but it would have been used. Now I don't think so because they don't support them. I'd like to see AGCO be AGCO not Allis Chalmers unfortunatley that aint happening either. ------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 10:36am
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Mark you are right, the low end MF 2600's are using the Simpson engine. The Perkins is still in the 2600HD series.
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Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 10:57am
The Simpson is a Perkins under license . The part # for a sleeve on the MF2605 is the same part # as a 135 MF diesel. 3 -152. Odd, how things change but remain the same in some aspects.
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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 12:05pm
That makes me chuckle every time I see it as well! ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 3:24pm
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Its like watching a bunch of democrats and republicans scream over who has the better idea... ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 10:37pm
I will spell it out for you guys,but I can tell you are alot smarter then me. I put that on there, when AGCO dropped the orange tractor line. Meaning orange is gone from there line, I will not be buying anymore tractors from AGCO. So chuckle away, and keep making coffee remarks on a tractor page all you want.
IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2012 at 11:23pm
Dave that bolt and castle nut fits the steering cylinder on a 170,180,190,200,210,220,7000 that I know of,so I am sure there is alot of uses,its not like a belt that will fit 1 tractor made 1 year. So I guess we agree on who was stupid for the $42 dollars on that bolt. I didnt need them for that price. Its no big deal I got the bolts at my local Napa dealer. So you think they had to have a special production run on that bolt that has been on the majority of AC tractors, Or they just bought them from another supplier and jacked the price?
IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |