Do You Recognize this WD45 3pt Hitch?
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Topic: Do You Recognize this WD45 3pt Hitch?
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Subject: Do You Recognize this WD45 3pt Hitch?
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 3:35am
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This
month, I bought a 1957 WD45. (Serial Number checks out as a 1957) It
had a 3pt hitch, but I didn't inspect it closely before I bought it. Is it AC OEM? The 3pt hitch is attached to the Snap Coupler. Along with it, came two identical draw bars, both with the Snap Coupler eye. How can the draw bar be attached, when it has a Snap Coupler connection, but the Snap Coupler is already in use attaching the 3pt hitch. The Left arm is connected at the fourth hole from the eye, it rubs the tire when tractor is moving. The Right arm is connected in the first hole from the eye. There is only one height adjustment lever, it is on the right arm. Left arm is sans height adjuster. On LEFT arm, cotter pins are next to tire. On RIGHT arm, cotter pins are on the inside of the arm, away from the tire. I question if this whole hitch is attached right side up, or, errant in an upside down position. I question that because I am unfamiliar with this 3pt hitch, and looking at the Y in it, it looks upside down there at the Snap Coupler. However, I know nothing. Also, can the draw bars shown be attached by removing the center pin at the Y in the Snap Coupler hitch connection, and as is, or, modifying a hole in the draw bar, attach it at that center pin. Does the 3pt hitch need like a sway bar, or, a draw bar that runs to each hitch arm? New to Allis Chalmers. Drove by a lot and saw it and it's beautiful orange and bought it. Needs a light switch. Anyone know the proper switch, it's ID, and who sells them? Will the brush guard prevent the operation of a WD45 Front Loader? I have one made for the WD45 now unpaid for, but due to arrive and pay on the 3rd of August. What size wrenches do I need to remove the seat coil and replace the shock absorber? Where can I buy bushings for the front and rear seat connections to the frame? The seat is all wobbly and needs a new shock. Read in the forums, two different Monro Shock replacement numbers. Monroe 5752, and Monroe 57354 and Monroe 57354A. They recommended ADVANCE AUTO, but all we have are AUTO ZONE, and O'REILY'S IN this area.. Photos are attached. Thanks a million for any help that you can provide me. Dex  
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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 3:37am
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Also, how can other Snap Coupler implements be used with this 3pt Hitch using the Snap Coupler connection? Thanks. Dex |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 3:43am
| Oh, the arms on the draw bar, look to be upside down, compared to photos I pulled up of that draw bar in Google Images. What say you? |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 4:00am
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#1 you either attach one, or the other, not both 3 point, and drawbar. #2 there are parts missing, to the 3 point adapter, including the toplink(spreader) piece, that goes between the 2 arms. Also missing are the sway chains, and and the rack that they mount on. #3 some of the pisces on the adapter kit are home made bodge ups (lift links)
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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 4:07am
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So, DiyDave, you are saying that this is not AC OEM, even though it is a 1957 WD45? That it was homemade, or, at least in part? Never seen a kit before that used the Snap Coupler as the attachment. Regardless, it is a crummy way to make a 3pt hitch, because it precludes me from using the draw bar and the hitch at the same time. I would be better off to buy an aftermarket kit, get rid of this one, and be able to use the draw bar. That would mean that I would have another $500-$600 in the tractor.  Thank you for responding. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 5:23am
| No, all is not lost. When they were manufactured, these kits were the best, for your tractor. You need to look at pictures of what should be. The upper connection points should be the snap coupler claws. When set up right, you can switch out drawbar to adapter, in 5 minutes, with 4 to spare. Unfortunately I am not a computer whiz, and can't post the pics I want to. If you go to YTMAG, this morning, the AC forum there has a thread, with pics, which wouls 'splain a lot better. Also you could search the photo galeries here, and there, lots of useful pictures, which speak better than me. |
Posted By: bitburn
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 6:35am
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Looks like a Cross Mfg aftermarket hitch. I just got one for my CA. You are missing the two pipes that slide into each other (The spreader that goes between the two arms. Currently your chains are hooked to it.) Should be able to buy two different size DOM tubing. Drill holes on the ends, and cut to size. You can check out the pictures of these hitches on OKTractor and TonysTractors. The previous owner may of took out the spreader, as the pto shaft tends to smash into it as you lift the implement in some cases. I just found this out yesterday as I lifted the deck of the rotary cutter too much. Here is WD with an aftermarket hitch on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D5B6eCYFA0U |
Posted By: allisorange
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 6:37am
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We had one like that and it came from Steiner many years ago.
John Carlson
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 6:58am
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I never saw a need to have the draw bar and the 3 point in use at the same time. Use the 3 point when needed, remove it and put the drawbar on when needed. It would take less than 2 minutes if you had the proper lift latches on the lift arms. Don't MODIFY anything on the hitch. Disconnect the lift arms from the 3 point, pull on the release lever(right angle handle above guage cluster) and drop the 3 point out. Pick up the drawbar and "sling it into the Snap Couple Bell. Attach drawbar bail with 2 clevis pins and 2 hair pins. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 7:10am
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I just saw one on another forum. Shows the entire 3pt and he has the cross part you need! ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 11:51am
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Thank you all for the information that you have provided me. If anyone has trouble uploading photos in the forum, but could email me, I would greatly appreciate it. I am a first time AC owner, and have been off the farm for over 30 years. I was thinking that since the tractor is serial numbered as a 1957, that it came with an OEM 3pt hitch from AC. Apparently not. Am looking for knowledgeable like you all, and directions on how to get up to speed on this WD45 and the 3pt hitch. If anyone has photos that they would send of the proper connections, bars, snap claws, or, how this hitch is supposed to look, I would appreciate it. Links to forums, web pages are also welcome. email to mballou@mvp.net. I knew that this was the right forum to join. Thanks again, guys, further input from you and others is greatly appreciated. |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 11:55am
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Anyone have photos that they are unable to upload of the proper configuration of my 3pt hitch, you may email me at mballou@mvp.net Thank you, ALL. Dex |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 2:38pm
 I believe this started out as an original A-C 3PH adaptor.
Even the top link bracket attached to the rocker shaft appears to be original. It is unfortunate that longer ears have been welded onto it.
The lift links are also original but the correct clevis' that attach them to the lift arms have been replaced by some "Mickey Mouse" pieces.
There was a stabilizer available for use when using PTO operated equipment, a picture of which I have attached.
I have one of these A-C 3PH adaptors and I agree, the disadvantage is that it has to be removed to do any drawbar work.
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 2:47pm
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Hey CTuckerNWIL,
"Slingin'" that drawbar into the snap-coupler ain't as easy as it once was! LOL
"Slingin'" the 3PH adaptor into the snap-coupler is pretty darned near impossible for an old guy like me!
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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 3:41pm
| There never was a 3 pt hitch availible from the factory on a WD45 there are "after market" one's from several diferent companies. and yes Brian I agree that "singin" anything into the snap coupler bell is mostly only in my dreams !! A young guy could do it though. |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 6:06pm
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Brian G. Thank you for the great drawing and info. Yeah, when he said that you just sling the draw bar up there, I was going... "Not me," I had already tried to get it in position to see if the thing came close to the snap coupler and it is one heavy piece of metal. I do believe that if you look at the draw bar, in my first posting, that it may well have the arms fastened upside down. I have seen images in a search engine and it seems that the looped up part of the draw bar is down, where in the photo of mine, it is up, and the straight bar is down. It is rather disheartening to think that this hitch was cobbled together, and then, even bastardized even further. What can I do to make it safe to use as a 3pt hitch for plow, disk, etc.? Thank you all for your great input. |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 7:36pm
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Looking at the Y at the Snap Coupler, is it right side up, or, upside down? |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 7:46pm
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CTuckerNWIL Thank you for your input and advice not to change anything. As for the Snap Coupler hitch being dropped and my SLINGING the drawbar up in it's place, my SLINGING days are just about over.  Does the Y underneath the tractor look to be upside down to you at the coupler? I found that piece to be pretty darn heavy, at least to me at this stage in my life. 20-30 years ago, yes, I could sling, but not so much so today. Nudge maybe, push, kick, and even raise it a bit off the ground, but no SLINGING. Thanks, again, and for noting that it looked at least in part to be original AC. Just wondered why they didn't design a 3pt hitch that allowed the draw bar to be used along with the 3pt, and save the Snap Coupler for other implements. Thanks again, CTuckerNWIL, I appreciate the input of you and all who have commented in a very helpful way. Dex |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 8:00pm
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Allis didn't build 3 point equipment in the 50's because they made equipment with the Snap Couple hitch. It was far easier to connect and change equipment than the 3 point but kinda met it's limits with the higher horsepower tractors like the 190. I don't know if it's upside down. here is a picture of one I found doing a google seach for images. It has the proper lift links to connect to the latches that would normally be on your arms.  It appears your sway chains aren't helping much where they are mounted. I don't know how they should be anchored either. If you had the cross arm shown, your sway chains would probably work. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 8:51pm
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The "Y" is right side up in your photo.
And.........altho the WD-45 did not come equipped with a 3 PH, Allis-Chalmers did sell a factory "Allis-Chalmers" 3 PH attachment for the WD-45 and several other models.
They are quite sought after and some of the pieces are quite valuable.
For example, I have seen that litttle top-link clamp that goes on the rocker shaft go for as much as $160 on e-pay, the top-link with an unbroken handwheel for $266 and the 3 PH itself without the other two items for $228.
If I ever get one of my WD-45s restored I would cetrtainly have the A-C 3PH adaptor
on it for "show" purposes.
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 9:07pm
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While I was typing my prior response, CTuckerNWIL posted his comments.
Contrary to what he says, Allis certainly made their own 3 PH adaptor.
As a matter of fact, to take full advantage of their "traction booster" feature (of which they were immensely proud), if the buyer chose, he could have the 3 PH adaptor configured so that the the top-link connected down on the 3 ph itself rather than up on the cross shaft.
I know this because one of my WD-45s came with a 3 PH adaptor with the top-link bracket on the rocker shaft and another I bought had a 3 PH adaptor which had originally had the top-link bracket on a bar mounted between the two lift arms.
I am surprised that others have not "chimed in" as there must be a few guys out there with these factory 3 PH adaptors on their tractors?
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 11:28pm
I never said Allis didn't make the adaptor go back and read what I wrote.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Brian G. NY wrote:Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 5:55am
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Brian maybe you were looking at B26240's reply but he didn't really say Allis didn't offer an adapter either. Not important. I wonder, did Allis buy that adapter or did they build it? One of my brothers has at least one of those Allis adapters. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 8:37am
  CTuckerNWILL,
I appologize for my statement; I agree, as far as I know Allis did not make 3PH equipment in those early years.
Instead, they sold a 3PH adaptor so that farmers could use 3PH equipment from other Mfgrs.
They sold both standard Cat I and Heavy Duty Cat II units and they were availablbe for the WD, WD-45 and the D-10 thru D-17 models as well as a model especialy for the D-10 and D-12 High Clearance tractors.
A-C did not use chains to prevent sway; instead they used the bracket shown in my prior post.
Their adaptor was equipped with light chains that I assume were there simply to keep the lift arms from dragging on the ground or flopping out and hitting the tires.
Here are a coupla pictures:
#4 in the first picture shows the cross arm where the top link would attach to take advantage of the "traction Control" feature.
The second picture shows the top-link and the bracket that clamps to the rocker shaft.
I assume these adaptors were built by someone else.....maybe Oxnard?, considering the similarity of the wheel used on the top-link and the one used on the Oxnard back blade.
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 3:20pm
Found this Pic of an A-C 3PH with the "low-down" top-link bracket over on the Yesterday's Tractors Site.
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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 5:22pm
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Cannot thank all of you enough. I am very happy with all the responses that I am receiving thus far on my question about the 3pt hitch system shown in the beginning of this topic. Always will I welcome more comments, and especially photos. Special appreciation goes out to Brian G and CTuckerNWIL, for the great drawings and photos, that better help me what I have, or, the pieces that I do have in the 3ph system on my WD45. It is the photos that help someone like me who has been off the farm for about 40 years, and cannot remember if the CASE tractor that we had was solid orange, or, cream and orange. In other words, it has been a very long time since I have been around a tractor. A Potato Plow came with the property, and I just traded the in rough condition bush hog that was here for a better used one. I have our former neighbor from 40+ years ago, coming buy tonight, or, Thursday night to look at the tractor and tell me what plow, disk, mower and rake I can use with it. He sells used implements, and has a some knowledge about old AC tractors that he can give me a bit of guidance in buying used implements. Photos and comments are still welcome on this 3ph topic. Thank you all. I have an AC fork lift for the WD45 arriving on the 3rd from Illinois, that I hope will not be interfered with by the brush guard on my tractor. What do you think? Will it work, or, is the guard going to prevent proper operation of the forklift? |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 5:41pm
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dont believe AC had a front mounted fork lift for the WD45? ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: Steve Zidlicky
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 7:39pm
| Dexter, one thing that no one has mentioned or else I missed it -- take those bolted on plates off of the tractor lift arms and get a set of the factory lift latches to hook up to. You do not have a safety release as it is set up now. that can be a very dangerous issue if the loop under the tractor comes undone. also the leveling box is only used on the right hand side. You have a good portion of a factory 3 point conversion that someone has really "engineered" and did not know or care any better. look closely at the hitch picture on the tractor that Brian G posted and along with the diagram you should figure it out. the sway chains attach to the brackets where the drawbar bail would pin to when in use. the chains are attached to a piece of pipe with flat metal welded to it and it fits between the brackets and a rod goes through the whole assy and has a cotter pin on each end. If I am not mistaken the rod is 3/4 dia. |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 8:42pm
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This is the front end loader that the guy said that he took off of a WD45, plus, the photo of my WD45 with brush guard. I am a bit worried that the Brush Guard will prevent successful operation of the front end loader pictured. I is due to arrive on the 3rd of August. I have not yet paid for it. Payment on Delivery. What say you all about the brush guard and loader operation? Thank you, Dex  |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 9:28pm
OOPS, Photos didn't come through, though showed in my reply block. 
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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 9:42pm
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Steve, I live about 225 miles from you near Poplar Bluff, which is in Butler County. Wish it were a bit closer. Between a lot of help from You, Brian G. and CTruckerNWIL, plus comments from others, and access to the right parts, I could get this hitch thing right. Never been a mechanic. Build wooden wide barn yard gates of my own design back when I was in HS, but mechanics, gas engines, etc, was never my forte. You all are helping me a lot. I really do appreciate it. Dex |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 9:52pm
The loader won't work with that "brush guard". At least it won't go down all the way.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 10:14pm
| The guy who built that "brush guard" (bumper) sure had a great imagination! LOL |
Posted By: Steve Zidlicky
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 10:37pm
| yep! guard/cow catcher has got to go. I will send you a pm tomorrow. too tired now Steve |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 9:27am
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Steve, CTruckerNWIL, and Brian G., THANK YOU, for confirming that the brush guard is going to prevent the WD45 Front End Loader from working on my tractor. I really was afraid that that would be the case. If it were you, would you remove the brush guard and buy the front end loader? I could see a possible use for it, in moving huge piles of mulch to the orchard, or, moving dirt around. I then found an AC rear scoop, that may do most of that, a little cheaper. I had originally planned to use rails on the front end loader to move dead animals, like if a horse died, etc. The Front End Loader will cost me $700, $500 for it, and $200 for delivery. If you were in my situation, would you opt to buy it? Thanks, Dex |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 9:28am
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All, Front end loader photo and my tractor are near the bottom of page 1. |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 9:30am
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Steve, Looking forward to your PM, however, if you would like to direct email, that is fine, too. mballou@mvp.net Dex |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 1:29pm
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I recently bought that same loader with no bucket for $100. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 6:16pm
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CTruckerNWIL, and others on the price of the front end loader. Wow! That was a fantastic price! $100...!!!!! I wonder if it is worth $700, $500, and another $200 to drag it 170 miles, one way? You guys got any input on the price, and scarcity of this oader? A good deal, or, would you all pass? Thanks, a million, guys. Dex |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 6:43pm
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Think I would look around a bit B4 I paid that much. Bring your pickup up here and I'll take my old loader off the 45 for $100. Holes kinda wore and it has some reinforcing in the front tubes. If that was a later rectangle box frame, it would be worth more. IMO
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:22am
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Thanks, CTrucker. If I can trade the Honda Pilot for a pickup, which I really do need, I may take you up on that at a later date if it is still around. I was born in Keokuk, IA, and still have at least one cousin still there. I thought it was a little high, but I was also worried about how scarce a Front End Loader for a WD45 might be. Then, now,. I have to tackle getting that brush guard off, if I were to use it.. I may pass on that one. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 3:36pm
| You'll need to take that usless guard off the front. the loader looks to be in good shape complete and has at least the left parking stand. Some guys will bad mouth the WD9 loader because its only a trip bucket. Once you put one on you'll wonder how you ever did without it. With parking stands it takes only a couple minutes to remove the loader and less than 10 to install. you need to reconfigure your sway chains on that adapter down to the drawbar bail mounting. I change my 3pt adapter and drawbar a couple times eack year. I just leave the snap coupler end propped up on a 6 x8 block of wood and back into it. then I lift the end up and pin the drawbar inplace. you can hook a chain from each rockshaft end through the drawbar and use the hyd to lift it up. The draw bar can be installed either side up just depends how high you want the end. most of the time My WD45 sits with the drawbar and loader on it. When I need the 3pt I take the loader off. just drop the parking stands down, raise the loader slightly and chain the two bottoms together. Then let the loader down disconnect and push the rams in. pull the two pins and back away. disconnect the hyd hose and pin the rams in the up position. I gave 250 for one loader and 300 for the other I would spend $500 on a good one before buying junk and trying to fix it up. |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 6:59pm
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Hi, Dakota Dave, In addition to spending the $500 for this loader that I am considering, if you didn't have a pickup, would you pay the $200 to deliver it and have a total of $700 in it? |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 2:13pm
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Steve Z, Thank you for your email. I will be sending you an email soon, from a different address. mballou@mvp.net Am very interested. |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 2:25pm
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Thank you all .....for the great comments on my 3pt hitch on my WD45. I'd either like to spend a little to get it as near original as possible, or, put on a WD hitch that doesn't use up my Snap Coupler. I am not knowledgeable, but I would have to question, why AC didn't make a retro hitch that could be put on earlier WD's and WD45's, and start sending them out from the factory with a 3pt hitch that didn't use up the Snap Coupler. With a 3pt hitch that used the Snap Coupler, it would make it a b*%#@ to hook up any Snap Coupler implements that the owner had, or, bought in the future. At least, that is just my opinion. It seems, to me, like a major faux paux, in engineering and marketing. God bless them. I understand that there were patent considerations back then, that Ferguson had, but I thought that was resolved by the early 50's. Two miles from where I live there is an AC Snap Coupler 3 bottom plow in great shape. The guy who I bought the tractor from recently sold a Snap Coupler Disc. I would have gone after both, if the 3pt hitch wasn't using the Snap Coupler. Thanks... Dex |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 4:45pm
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If you had the Allis built 3 point adapter set up the way it is supposed to be, it would take about 10 seconds to remove it and then you back into your plow or disc, connect the lift arms and go. No more than 2 minutes tops from 3 point to plow. All the WD45's drawbars connect to the Snap Coupl bell under the belly of the tractor. You have the proper drawbar and you have most of the SC to 3 point adaptor. What you need to do is get a set of lift latches  to put on the lift arms. These slide over the lift arms and you links to the 3 point get clamped in with spring pressure. About 2 seconds to connect or disconnect. You will need to remove those plates that are bolted on to the lift arms and put them in your scrap pile.You have most of what you need. Get the latches and be done with it. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: John (MO)
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 5:48pm
| The snap coupler hitch was considered by most users to be better than the Fergie 3 point system back in the day and for the size of equipment used back in the D series days. It is so much easier to hook up snap coupler equipment than it is 3 point. But alas it's getting harder and harder to find snap coupler equipment. Those #9 loaders are sure handy, but usually sell for between $100 and $200. $700 ought to get you one with 2 way cylinders and a pump. |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2012 at 5:49pm
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Here is an explination of the WD45, Im not sure if its in part one or part 2, but there is information on the snap coupler in there. also demos how to hook up implements and the draw bar. [TUBE]cYH3q9nJ-fc[/TUBE] [TUBE]y5LLqziJJEk&feature=relmfu[/TUBE] ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: Flint23
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2012 at 3:21am
Great videos  AC, that guy makes swinging that hitch look easy  ------------- been there done that, not doing it again... |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2012 at 10:37pm
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Whether it is "slinging" the Snap Coupler draw bar, as someone else had suggested earlier in the posts, or, "Swinging," it as in the above post, I think that a couple of us here have agreed that our slinging and swinging days are pretty much behind us.
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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2012 at 10:56pm
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Just a thought (AC INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEOS) When I was 14, I left an 800 acre farm back in the 60's. I was the equipment grease monkey, drove the tractor some, but come hay time, my main job was to ride the twine box on our baler and tie the hundreds of missed tied knots as the bales came down the chute. Joined the Marine Corps right out of high school, and did not return to the farm after Vietnam and college. While I missed the drug culture of the 60's and 70's, I had a something that caused short term memory problems for me in 2000. I have a tough time following verbal and sometimes written material, especially if it is new to me. That is, something with which I am unfamiliar. That and being away so long, makes things that is kindergarten stuff for you, pretty complicated for me. Have any of you who have contributed so much to this topic on the 3pt hitch, ever thought of combining your talents and posting something akin to "How To" and other informative videos here? Yeah, I know you are on the farm, and have a lot more on your plate, but if someone, or, ones, who have a natural teaching talent could make familiarization videos to post here, or, sell $15 dollar dvd's, I am sure that people like me would buy them. I have always reacted better to visual instruction, than verbal. Could do one on "familiarization with the WD45". Introduce the parts, carb, radiator gauge, all the knobs, levers, gauges, etc. "If you pull this thing here, it will unlock the Snap Coupler, allowing the implement to be disengaged from the tractor. The proper 3pt hitch on a WD45 will have these Snap Coupler latches that will allow, say, a plow to disengage if while using it, the Snap Coupler latch spring brakes allowing the plow tongue to go into the ground. If it the Snap Coupler latches on the lift arm didn't release, then the plow could swing around and come up to meet you on the tractor seat. These are your sway chains, this is the tube that spreads the lift arms apart, this is the rock shaft, here is the hydraulic ......., Now you have to disconnect this tube if you are using the .......... and here is the PTO. It's rated power is 43 horsepower.....etc. Be sure to grease here, at least every day, or, every other day, and check the fluid in the PTO every, oil at every use, it is over here, and check the radiator every..... especially in very hot weather... etc..." I have trouble with retention, and in visualizing some of what has been said here. Again, because of the 2000 problem that I had. I am going to print off your comments that relate to the hitch and get out there and see if I can place what you have said to what I am seeing on the tractor. Anyway, if people who know AC implements, tractors, etc. would do videos like that, I would watch them, and probably buy a few. |
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2012 at 11:03pm
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Geez, I need to proof read better before I post... NOT Brakes, but BREAKS !!! Since you all tell me that I have a rock shaft, I am going to have to go to GOOGLE IMAGES and find out just what that is. I sure want to know, and it is not in my '60's farm vocabulary, or, memory bank. Thanks so very much for all that you have contributed to my learning process. Dex |