CA w/Cultivators Still Working
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Topic: CA w/Cultivators Still Working
Posted By: wkpoor
Subject: CA w/Cultivators Still Working
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 9:18pm
Wonder how many have a tractor not only with cultivators mounted but still earning its keep. I realize this would only apply to the smaller tractors. Very few places in the world cultivate on a large scale. This CA is a pleasure to drive and is still doing its thing 60yrs later.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 9:26pm
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I've got all the stuff to do it, just haven't had it mounted in many years. I did put the 2 row on the 45 about 15 years ago and used it some.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CAdon
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 9:29pm
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thanks for the pix. mine came with a similar belly setup - minus the front brace and the blades. now i can see (and show) what i'll need when i finish the general refurb.
also mine has adjustable wide front. ------------- 52 CA, 41 B and a little B1 oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 9:55pm
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60 years later and still going strong. The "CA" is still my main tractor doing it all. http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/caallis/CA%20Working%20Pictures/" rel="nofollow - http://s161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/caallis/CA%20Working%20Pictures/------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: CAdon
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 10:03pm
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wow dennis! great pix and great collection of implements. keep her running sweet! ------------- 52 CA, 41 B and a little B1 oh, yeah... and an 8N ford snuck in there, too. |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 10:42pm
| Those aren't on there for show. This time of the season I've been using them a couple times a week. Getting ready to put the side dressers on. I don't have quite the selection Dennis has but I do have a few goodies. Thanks to a forum member I have the 2 row front mounted planter. I also have the rear mounted that I currently use. The disc is same as Dennis has but I really doubt mine was ever used when I got it same as the 2-12s plow that still has the Allis metal tag hanging on it. That set hanging on the tractor has 4 brandy new shanks, 4 brandy new discs and the rear gauge wheel I had to remove the tag to install it. In addition to the NOS list is 4 complete fertilizer units, a box full of misc planter parts such as gears, drives and chains. I've got 4 new side dresser disc openers and brand new fenders. That tractor in the pic is sporting its original tires it was sold with. It was delivered to the customer in Febuary 53. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 6:36am
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It's not a CA but I use my WD45 with a two row cultivator with a side-dresser on it.
Don
 ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:29am
Are those hopper extensions factory or did you make them up? Seems not many shows have tractors sporting implements especially something like a side dresser. Last August I took mine to the first show its ever been to and it was sporting the mounted disc. |
Don(MO) wrote:Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:44am
I use the side-dresser one time per year on corn and the funny part is the corn likes it just find. lol
Don ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:45am
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Dennis, Where did you get the dual back wheels for the CA? That is awesome! |
Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:47am
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Don, Some day I want to come down and live at your farm! You have the neatest old Allis stuff! That cultivator with the sidedresser is really neat. I have not seen anyone use one around here! ------------- It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa, |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:48am
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One more thing about the extension's is I used them one time and I'm too short to fill them so they are sitting it the back of the barn, I have to stop and fill-up more but I don't need a step ladder to fill-up now. lmao
Don ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:53am
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I agree with the pastor, don always has really cool equipment to go with his 45's!
What is the set up time, to put that cultivator on the CA? Just put the 2 row on the C at home, and that took awhile. The CA has got to be quicker, with the SC rear gang and locking pins on the front. ------------- Galatians 5:22-24 "I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 9:01am
First time on this year took me awhile cause I was cleaning hardware and I disassembled every shank and made sure they were loose so they could trip. Plus I cherry picked my pile of 4 cultivators for the best parts and even ground out some bushings on the lift arms and welded them into others so I could make the tightest set. The rear gang is a snap to take on and off. The fronts I haven't removed yet but the manual just shows them swinging out and then being self supporting. After one bolt is removed and another loosened on either side and removing the front pins you can drive away from it all. So in theory one can remove and install them pretty quick if all goes as planned. However seems they will take up alot of space that way. Really not sure I'll have a need to remove the fronts since they aren't in the way of using the rear planter. In fact once the side dresser is on it will just stay there too as it won't be in the way of cultivating. I gotta say I really enjoy cultivating and getting some seat time on the CA. The engineering on the whole setup must have been something in its day. And the hydraulics work to a tee with the delayed lift action. I went through some growing pains with the hyd control. I posted a week or 2 ago about that. Since have that figured out thanks to Duke. Can't be too many left that have real time experience cultivating with anything let alone the CA. I figure its like a lost art. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 6:32pm
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Unhitching the front gangs is not that great. You need to attach the lift bars to the outside gangs so that it will be free standing. Since all they are is angles they sink in the ground than off over. Than to mount it try getting the front lined up to get the pins in. The "WC" cultivator is the best free standing AC ever made. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: jb from md
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:15pm
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Dad and i still cultivate some of our corn .we have 2- 6 row three point cultivators . one on the 185 and one on the nf wd45. its alot for the wd but we have a weight bracket on it and use the weights off the 185 to keep the front down. 12 rows at a time it dont take long to get done...Jb ------------- 8050 FWA, 190XT, 185, Styled wc, Unstyled wc, (2)C, (2)WD45NF, WD45WF, WD,416h, 716h, 312h, 8070 pedal. |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:20pm
Other option would be to simply pin the lift arms up and remove whole side assembly one at a time. Then remove front support bar. That way its in 3 pieces. Or like my plan, just leave it all on and get another CA. I plan on having 3 when its all said and done.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:52pm
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Dad used to leave the levers on the CA and the front gangs sat on the wood floor of the barn. You drive in, pin the front cross member, swing the gangs into place and bolt them and all that was left was to hook up the chains and raise it up. If you have an extra hand, the back doesn't take any longer to hook up (pin hitch set-up). I forgot, it's a narrow front so you did have to adjust the back wheels out all the way first. If you didn't have to look for lost tools or hardware, you could be ready to cultivate in an hour if drawbar was on and the wheels narrow. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 8:30pm
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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:11pm
 I need to find a highcrop "CA" and just leave it on as you said.
I like the hiller discs on your cultivator, I'm sure they were hard to find. We added them to the "G" and they seem to work better than standard sweeps. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:37pm
    ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 12:20am
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"I like the hiller discs on your cultivator, I'm sure they were hard to find." There was an ad on here 2 yrs ago. Kinda discrete about what was for sale. I noticed the location was close to Dayton. I called the guy and he had 4 pallets of NOS for sale. Plus B,C and WD45 cultivator stuff all NOS. I took my panel van and a 10' dump trailer and barely got it all in. All kinds of planter stuff and cultivator stuff. Every bit of it new. Real nice guy and it was a pleasure doing business with him. I must have brought 2 tons worth of stuff. Thank my lucky stars daily for that haul. BTW those hillers work real good. When the plants are tall enough I hill to cover weeds in the row. I've hilled both the corn and beans this year. Amazing how much moisture that holds. |
Posted By: Wil M (NEIA)
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 6:27am
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Just used my CA and cultivator a couple of weeks ago to cultivate my small bean patch.
This was the 2nd year using the cultivator and it took me just a little over a 1/2 hour to put everything on by myself. I had the gangs disconnected from the front bar and laying on a piece of cement. I left the levers on last year. After fighting to put those on by myself, I decided to leave them on and not take them off.
 ------------- "Yet there are soulless men whose hand and brain tear down what time will never give again." Anderson M Scruggs |