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Topic: series 1 d17 power steering pump
Posted By: elalr
Subject: series 1 d17 power steering pump
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 1:15pm
i need a power steering pump for a series 1 d17 diesel. it is the pump on the back of the generator. one hydraulic shop said he might be able to match it to another  pump brand. anyone hear of this? if anyone has one of these please call me or email or pm me. thanks! larry, 660-619-4156 mailto:elalr@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow - elalr@hotmail.com



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Posted By: KenBWisc
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 2:25pm
As I recall those pumps were either Barnes or Webster. I think new ones are around $800- 1400 depending on source. Used typically run $600-900. The used pumps I found were in need of overhaul. Depending on what's wrong with yours an overhaul may be lower cost. 

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Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 7:05pm

My memory wants to say (and it may be off track) that some older GM (Chev, Buick, Olds,Pontiac) vehicles also had the same setup; you may be able to utilize one.



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Posted By: norm[ind]
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 7:30pm
  is   it the pump or the coupler between the two units  we have coupler
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Posted By: D17Diesel
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 8:37pm
If it helps you i know that just about everything in the pump is still avialible from allis as of july 2011 except for the small needle bearings. I had to get the drive shaft, seal, gasket and coupler for mine last july hope this helps ya
Dennis


Posted By: JOHN N/IL
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 9:07pm
Give Sandy lake implement in pa a call ,i bought one from them last may and it works good.Mine is a 57 also.the previous owner had a gm pump on it when we got it,but cut the hood panel to fit it on the 17.good luck john.

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Posted By: elalr
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 8:58pm
im sure the its the pump...allis dealers around here say no parts are available. the three hydraulic shops around here say they wont attempt a barnes pump because of parts availability. i did find a re built for $550. i better go get it!


Posted By: D17Diesel
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 9:01pm
i got parts from binkley and hurst in PA great service i would give them a call there really isnt much to the pumps when your inside go to agcopartsbooks.com get the part numbers and give binkley and hurst a call 888 414 7518


Posted By: D17Diesel
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 9:02pm
ill look tommrow i may have some of the old part numbers laying around 


Posted By: MBWisc
Date Posted: 20 May 2012 at 9:04am
If rebuilt pumps are available you'd think the parts to do it with are.  


Posted By: elalr
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 11:32am
i was sorely mistaken! as it take the pump all the way off, i found all the splines are stripped! it didnt look like they were but i was wrong. what do i do now! the splines on the shaft and the coupler. at some point the shaft has had a new spline piece welded on it.  i guess new shaft and coupler are in order.


Posted By: D17Diesel
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 9:48pm
parts should be availible i had the same problem got them from binkley and hurst get a new seal and gasket too and becareful not to harm the needle bearings in the pump because they are not availible from allis



Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 10:00pm
About 4 years ago the shafts were available for around $160 from Agco....I think I have a few couplers left if you can't find any.

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Posted By: sks72107
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 6:53am
I also rebuilt my PS pump on my s1 d17 when i rebuilt the motor a year ago.  I was going to replace the shaft as well, but upon looking looking at the price of one opted not to.  It was still available then.  The needle bearing are not a problem to get.  Look real close and there will be a number on them.  Take that number to a good bearing supplier and they can hook you up.  There really isnt much to these pumps, pretty basic.  Probably have to cut the needle bearings with a die grinder to get them out. 


Posted By: Cort Bernier
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 6:53pm
I just bought a D19 and the power steering is out and leaking as well as the hydraulics. Where can I get rebuild kits for those pumps?



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