WD45 smashing spark plugs
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Topic: WD45 smashing spark plugs
Posted By: Farrell(Utah)
Subject: WD45 smashing spark plugs
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 10:44am
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I received a call from some friends the other day asking for some help with their WD45. As they told me, it was smashing the outer electrode of the spark plugs against the central electrode. They said the tractor would run right at idle but would do the smashing act when revved up. All of this was happening on cylinders 1 and 2. Admittedly, I wasn't buying the story until I saw it happen. After the tractor would start to miss, you could pull out the culprit plug and the two electrodes would be smashed together. There were marks showing that something was striking the plug. We ran it briefly without the two plugs and it sent something out the holes and then it started running right. My hunch is that a piece of the old manifold must have flaked off to get material into cylinders 1 and 2 simultaneously. So far it has been fine but the head might need to come off to identify the problem. ------------- A(1937), 2 G, 2 WD45 diesels, 6 WD45 gas, UC, 2 WD, D17 gas, WF, Farmall 400, D12, Kubota B3030 |
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Posted By: sks72107
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 10:59am
| Seems elementary, but do the plugs have the proper reach?? Also, perhaps take a light and put pistons at TDC and look for an imprint on piston |
Posted By: Farrell(Utah)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 11:03am
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The tractor has Autolites in it and I have never used them. We put in some new AC45s that I have always used with the same result. ------------- A(1937), 2 G, 2 WD45 diesels, 6 WD45 gas, UC, 2 WD, D17 gas, WF, Farmall 400, D12, Kubota B3030 |
Posted By: Matt MN
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 11:24am
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It would have to be a foreign object floating around in there if you have the correct plugs in it. You said you ran it with out those 2 plugs and something came out with the compression? how did it run after that? either the manifold is flaking rust internally or there is a valve seat that is letting loose, or just a huge chunk of carbon. ------------- Unless your are the lead horse the scenery never changes!! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 12:13pm
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What head is on the engine and what plug are you using?
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 12:14pm
| Try indexing the plugs so the electrode is on the head side of the cylinder. It may take a few plugs to find ones that will index properly. |
Posted By: Steve from Wis.
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 1:58pm
| when I saw the heading I thought you were advertising your new band. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 2:16pm
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What number Autolites? 295's is what belongs in there. Not only could it be a chuck of debris from the intake, it also could be a chunk of failing piston. There could possibly be a crack in the piston and its coming apart.. (?) Not good whatever it is......
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Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 4:08pm
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its highly unlikely but what if there is a humongous layer of carbon on top of the piston? take a flashlight and look down in there. I don't know how much clearance there is between the piston and the electrode at TDC but guessing it isn't all that much. if two cylinders are doing it maybe there is a blockage in the water jacket causing uneven cooling and thus more fouling and carbon buildup at that end of the engine. I'm probably way off base here but just something to consider
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 4:16pm
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Its simple put a 3/8 or 460 reach in it instead of the 3/4 reach plug is hitting the backside of the head. It cannot hit the piston. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 9:49pm
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I'm with ML on this one- unless someone's fitted some OTHER head on it (mebbie something from a buda power unit?) the spark plug is in a 'pocket', such that the piston would have to 'reach in' and strike it from the SIDE. "Clocking" the plugs would keep the welded-end of the electrode from being contacted, but I really don't think the piston comes close enough to strike it regardless... there would hafta be LOTS of crud in that cylinder to make anything hit the plug. Only time I've seen that, is an engine that's sat a while, and mud-dauber (wasps) got in it. If the plug is too long, the electrode just hitting the inside of the pocket, you should be able to turn the plug in, and back it out, and see evidence of contact on the plug, without ever running it. My question is- why cylinders one and two, and not the rest... What's the 'long' story of this engine- how long did it sit, did it wind up full of water, or anything like that? Did mud-wasps get in there and build nests in the intake or cylinders? Another thing you can try... only turn the plug in about half way, and try it out, and see what happens. Don't leave it that way, just try it to see if you get the same result. If the cylinders are full of crud, running it without a plug, revving it up a bit, SHOULD blow a bunch, if not all of it... out the stack. If they're mud-wasps, you could do something really crazy, but I've done it on a few (two of 'em locomotive) engines... pull the plug, rinse the affected cylinder with water using a piece of 1/4" plastic tubing... run the water full-blast, and let water run out the plug hole, and when it stops flowing mud, crank it over by hand to get the worst of the water out, squirt oil in the cylinder, hand crank again, then start the engine without the plug in place, run for about 10 seconds, shut it down, put the plug back in, and fire it up. Once it's calmed down, change the oil and filter, as there'll probably be mud and water in the oil, too. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 4:40pm
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AC45 is a short reach plug. Do you know anybody with a bore scope? If you were here I have one we could look inside with. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 6:57pm
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The ngk non-projected plugs with gasket t 3/4 don't hit the back side of the plug window but does expose about, 3 treads to combustion. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 7:19pm
the hole at the bottom of the valves is the widow where the plug is . the plug will never angle down past the deck of the head . You can also see that a 3/4 reach projected tip could hit the backside of the plug window /hole.
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 7:44pm
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If someone would like to see a 3/4 reach non projected NGK plug in a head beside a 3/8 reach plug on a head allis recommends using a 3/8 plug on just ask and i will post . ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 8:17pm
3/8 plug in head
 3/4 plug in head
 ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Farrell(Utah)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 11:16pm
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Thanks for your posts. I thought this was an unusual problem so I made the post. The engine is all standard WD45. The tractor has been used regularly through the years. Since the problem only occurs in cylinders 1 and 2, it has to be that debris is moving through the intake manifold as one intake port feeds cylinders 1 and 2 and the other intake feeds 3 and 4. I don't think it could be a valve or piston problem as it happened in both cylinders at the same time. Their old manifold is starting to crack and I will bet some material flaked off and migrated to the two cylinders through the front intake port. After we ran the motor without the plugs in 1 and 2 it has been running fine since. Am I thinking straight on the debris explanation? They will pull off the head if it acts up again and I will report back on the Forum. I enjoy puzzles like this one. Thanks again. ------------- A(1937), 2 G, 2 WD45 diesels, 6 WD45 gas, UC, 2 WD, D17 gas, WF, Farmall 400, D12, Kubota B3030 |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 8:13am
Sounds like time to replace the manifold before it causes more serious problems. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Farrell(Utah) wrote:Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 8:21am
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You have debris in the cylinder. Or somewhere allong the way there has been some parts swapping and machining going on.
A standard piston has a compression height of about 2.6", your connecting rod is 7.5" and half your crankshaft stroke is 2.25". That all adds up to 12.35" and your block deck height is 12.625" so you have a fair bit of room between the top of the piston and the head.
Also the sparkplug is positioned in the crater of the piston, not close enough to the edge of the piston for the piston top to hit it.
Those pictures of pankey's have little to no merrit. They are of a Leroi head, which has a diferent spark plug pocket all togather, and have a shorter reach plug used. In a WD-45 head the plug will protrude from the deck of the head verry slightly. The longer the reach of plug the closer it gets to the center of the cylinder which makes it further away from the edge of the power crater piston.
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Posted By: Seth Souerdike
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 9:50am
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 10:25am
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First picture is a a d17 head . the last two are of a allis wd head . No leroi head was pictured my leroi head is on my tractair .Sorry Rod B but your showing your ignorance in head identification . I can tell you a 3/4 doesnt protrude out of a d17 head either and it can run a projected tip 3/4 reach in Ngk and champion . If i rememeber right the autolites and a/c plugs are longer with the champion being the shortest of all four brands but its been a while since I did the test with even Kent dakin helping in doing the same on a 45 head he was using. Kent felt that the 3/4 reach with the 3 threads exposed was causing a hot spot . ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 10:44am
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I will go a step farther and say I deally you want the plug angle toward the exhaust valve which allis doesnt do . Performance wise also you would index electrode gap to be facing the exhaust valve . ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:08am
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Comment removed,
No reasonn for me to post what anyone with sense is thinking
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Posted By: sks72107
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:22am
| Here we go again, perhaps wii50 will chime in and help things out. |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:49am
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yeap i am thinking. either plug will work as long as the electrode doesnt get mashed when tightening it up . The shorter the plug is in the hole the more ignition lead the engine will want over the longer plug. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 12:02pm
The WD-45 uses a short reach plug. End of story. Look at a WD-45 head, the plug can never hit the head as the plug pocket is machined straight through. It can hit in other heads, but in any of them a 3/4 reach plug can NEVER hit the head, unless there is debris.
Leaving 3 or 4 threads exposed would be a recipe for disaster. Bent rods from detonation, burned or broken pistons.
Lets see some more pictures if anyone thinks I'm ignorant.
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 12:56pm
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the threaded body of the plug will never get hotter than the ground strap. The wd45 the wc and wd head allis recomends the 3/8 plug but you can put 3/4 in and if you use the longer projected tip 3/4 plug with a widen gap then the ground strap will mash on the back of the spark plug pocket anyone in can see that in the picture with exception of Rod B and Ray Charles. The hottest color indication from heated metal will be on the ground strap and can be read for ignition advance. Valve lift would make a valve hit the piston before a spark plug ever will . ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 1:27pm
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Hey I like the Ray Charles reference! I thought I was the only one that used it! ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 1:41pm
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Ah typical backpedeling stages of pankey.
A picture of a 3/4" reach plug in a D-17 head.
 Notice how the electrode can not touch the pocket. Must be one helluva gap if pankey is refering to.
 A WD-45 head with the through style sparkplug pocket, a 3/4 reach plug screwed in tight. Again no way it is going to hit anything.
 Again the same WD-45 head with a tap screwed in from the combustion chamber to show how the plug can not hit the head. There is multi layers of cardboard pushed between the plug pocket and tap. A 3/4 reach plug can never hit the pocket in any of these heads, even with the washer removed.
Ray Charles can even smell something fishy.
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 2:19pm
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3/4 reach plug still aint sticking out past pocket . Piston would hit head before hitting electrode even in your picture. You have a projected tip in the d17 and a non projected tip 3/4 in the other head. no back peddling you with another picture wich makes a visual case of all three designs proved what I was saying. even used a gasket to show where the fire ring or sleeve edge is. Three Allis heads three different plug pockets which one does the guy have who knows .Rod B do you know? So the general statement plug would hit back of the plug hole on one of the three before hitting the piston on any of the three is correct . ps I have a 37 wc head that even has a different plug window also so really four AC designs. Would you like a picture of it . Also the back wall is steeper on the d17 and not as angled as much in your picture as the 45 so if a projected tip from the longer brand with a 35 to 40 thou gap is attempted and the electrode turns toward back steeper wall guess what. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 2:41pm
you really aint that bright!! Same head, same 2 plugs, and gasket sitting on plugs to illistrate the plugs stick out of the head.
 Notice air gap from head to gasket. Go back and read my first post here. Piston can't hit, now you try and agree only to tell me that I am backpedeling.
Point is that a 3/4 reach plug will NOT hit the head, and that you can not open the gap to hit the head like our pankey tries to tell us earlier. It sits in the pocket in a D-17 head, it protrudes into the cylinder on a WD-45 head.
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Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 4:08pm
I been really busy and haven't spent much time on the puter, but I see I haven't missed anything. ------------- "see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet" |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 4:21pm
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Ok, to ensure photography isn't making things look like they really aren't, how about laying a straight edge across all those pics of plugs in heads and re shoot? If the plug clears the straight edge, that pretty much answers the question. Maybe it's just me, but the pockets don't look like they're all the same size (volume). ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 4:23pm
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they can mash and will mash on the head but not by a piston If the ground strap was turned to the back side of the 45 head with a projected tip from a plug manufacter that runs the longer projection on 3/4 reach it can still be mashed . The plugs in Rob picture are non projected and the heal of the ground strap is visible . Turn the heal to where it tightens heal of strap not visible and the electrode gap visible from underside on a long projected tip 3/4 and watch what happens. Also since some village idiot pullers are on here . If you are running index washers and are turning the gap toward the exhuast valve to ring out every bit of power you will want to use the 3/4 plugs . cause the stacked washers will pull the elecrode into the threaded plug hole area on the head . Just look at the head in my picture with the 3/8 projected plug then imagine adding a washer for indexing . rod wi your wrong as usual. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 5:36pm
 ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 5:55pm
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Hey Brian,
there's 2 different heads in Rod's pictures, he points that out in the captions, the first one is of a D-17 or Gleaner E type. The second picture is of a WD-45 type.
If you had both heads laying side by side you could see the difference (I just went and looked for myself). In a later D-17 type the plug sits up in the head in a pocket. In an earlier WD-45 type the plug pocket extends, or is machined through and that pocket extends closer to the valves. That is why the tap can be threaded in from the chamber side in a 45 type head. That is also why the plug can't hit in the 45 type heads, I bet there's about .100 room around the tap in that picture. One can also see that the same reach plug will not hit or bottom out in the later D-17 type heads, that 3/4 reach plug does not extend into the pocket like it will on an earlier one.
I've actually welded the end of the pocket in a 45 head to allow use of a larger valve where I would not have had to weld the end shut in a later style head.
Like I said, same saga, different topic, same outcome. ------------- "see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet" |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 6:35pm
------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 7:03pm
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Valve must have been bigger than 2.08 ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Scott(SC)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 7:18pm
| mlpanky, you answered a question for me about the plug threads causing pre-ignition. Would threads protruding into the combustion area be subject to a carbon build-up? |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 7:25pm
Yes and the carboned up threads can make a mess out of your tapped hole in the head when you force them to come out. I know threads have been ruined doing this and the only way to get the plugs out without messing up the head is to pull the head off and clean things up from below. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 7:40pm
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Yes carbon will build. But usually plugs in a performance arena get changed often so build up isn't much of a issue. Some plugs have a projected body. Means even though the threads don't extend past tapped area a smooth unthreaded portion of the body does which will carbon also.taking notice of plug design differences and trying them separates some from the rest. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 9:29pm
My Performance arena is 3.5 acres north of my house and the plugs haven't been out of the 45 in probably 10 years. If it ain't broke... it starts on the first bump and starts at 98 or 15 degrees F. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 3:23am
| wow. |
Posted By: oldchalmersiron
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 6:29am
| It looks like the plugs have sparked a smashing debate. ha ha. |
Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 7:18am
Quite a debate isn't it. But there is no way that plug can hit that head on our WD-45 in the topic. Won't matter what plug style or tip, it can never hit the head.
 This picture is of a 45 head, with a 3/4 reach plug taken at an angle to show how much room is around the plug. In even a later head it still will never hit no matter what style plug is used.
So pankey, go look at some of these parts, your pictures prove nothing to any of us other than the fact you will continually argue about something you know nothing about. WI was right in saying same saga, different topic, same outcome.
ps. Are you planning on pulling your hot rod this year, I see some big valves in that head you are posting pictures of?
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 9:32am
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The pictures plural proves that the plug ground strap will come to a better chance of being mashed by the back side of the pocket than it would by hitting a piston . My first statement my last statement. 4 styles of plug pockets It can hit in all plug pockets but one the 45 stlye pocket in your picture if it hasn't been layed back and is original. The post proves two yahoos can't recognise allis heads or the different styles of plugs being that no Leroi head has been shown in post to date. Wd head in my picture has a 2 inch valve with 11/32 undercut stem with 392 hemi bronze guides in the picture it's a old out dated dry flow bench tested head . D17 head had 5/16 valve stems undercut to mm with custom guides .We moved on to mm stem sizes custom bronze guides so we can sing the engine without the need of going away from a flat tappet lifter due to spring pressure to keep heavy valve train components from floating when engine hits a full song and wet bench testing for checking to see if plaster mold design changes of port helps or hindered . Wet or dry benches are like dynos . Never should be used for anything but a reference as starting point and a grade card at the end to measure progress. When one checks someone elses work numbers usually get conservative . When testing to sell ones work numbers tend get liberal by person running test equipment. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 10:51am
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Big night hitting the magazines again huh pank.
I rember that you could not move the pulling sled. Was it camshaft issues? Now I know why you gave up and sold your parts when WI started posting. Those locals down there must have some tough Farmall H's and John Deere B's and Allis WC's. Those pulling results show the great pankey a long ways behind.
When are you going to get your hotrod running and make us that video that you promised?
Sorry, amuseing myself again. And again.
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Posted By: FredinInd
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 12:12pm
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Just got back to the forum after two days gone. WOW, what a whizzing contest...... ------------- Oh well, I won't do that again! |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 12:40pm
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Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 7:35am
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You guys have me laughin. I'm down in Columbia Mo. For the NATPA champs right now. 2 weeks ago I was out in Lincoln Ne for that pull. This pank fella is quite the man at these events. There are actually people who know him........like the Brad Paisley song "so much cooler online" I figured after months and 10,000 views of alienating himself when I posted some pics in the Crossbreading thread he'd learn to think before posting. ------------- "see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet" |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 8:44am
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Yeah we like for you and rob to get out of the stands and pull with us in the south. I have to post all the spark plug head test I have done and conclusions so You and rob can learn since thats all you guys read and do. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 9:16am
Something just came to mind while reading some of these replies.  
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Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 10:48am
So are you pulling this year? If so it would be easy for you to make us that video and show us. Or are you inviting some of us for no good reason.
For a guy who a year ago could not understand to the point he offered WI50 $200 to see his cylinder head and is now talking about wet flow, dry flow, plaster moulds, etc. you must be trying to learn. Or trying to fill unknowing souls with bs.
I liked the story about 5500 RPM, then 6500, but pictures of junk parts, a flywheel that would explode. 4th gear stories, 5 hooks on an engine and it blows up, and now these stories.
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 11:28am
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Ok, back to the original question. Farrell, did you find out what was going on in that engine? Carbon? Rust chunks? Mud wasp nest? ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 3:46pm
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To the poster who keeps bringing up the bet wi declined to accept. For one more time .it was to show that wi was exaggerating his cfms. If he had accepted and he hadn't been exaggerating he would have received 200cash and his head back.He didn't accept because he knew he exaggerated and whenever tested his head and published the findings he was going to owe me 500 for having to deal with a person who exaggerates the truth. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Glockhead SWMI
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 8:13pm
| Geesh.... |
Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 8:16pm
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The ignorance shines. First off there is no way anyone would trust pankey. He's been caught lying. He'd never tell the truth and he can't test the head anyway. Wi offered to send the head to a reputiable shop and pankey declined. Wi is useing the thing. Why would he put his tractor on hold for a measley $200? He ran it many times since. He posted these things and pank knows this. But the stupidity and jealousy of pank are once again showing. Why would pankey keep skateing around my question of when we can see him run? |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 9:15pm
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yes I can test the head . i apologize to the original poster seams i have two stalkers that try hard to discredit my work but it is what it is and they arent foolin knowledgeable people on the site. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Rod B
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 7:34am
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I love it. Pankey gets cornered and keeps backpedelling. But he still will not let anyone know when and where we. can see him run after publicly posting he was going to make us a video and show all of us. You can't test the head. You can pay someone to do it though. Too stupid and lazy to figure it out for yourself even after WI gave detailed description and pictures. Relax pankey. After all I am only amuseing myself at your expense. |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 9:37am
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Your a idiot rod with a man crush in wi. If you were to pull your head from wi rear end who knows what the environmental effects from the breaking vacuum would be. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 2:13pm
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 5:12pm
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Only thing better is a CB Rambo fight at the truckstop, by god if either of those guys ever met up there'd be blood an guts and spit an' ass for a city block. So did we ever figure out why the tractor was smashing plugs?
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Posted By: Boogerowen
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 5:54pm
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Well children, this is what I was talking about here while back........Farrell(utah) posted a question and quite a few members had multiple theories, then a couple of children began their relentless pursuit of de-grading Pankey, (Rod B and wi50) and they succeeded in completely hi-jacking Farrell's original post. They are all acting like SPOILED CHILDREN and should all be ashamed of themselves. There are a few more things I would like to say, but there is no need to beat a dead horse. Did anyone solve the problem ????????
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 5:57pm
Musta been chunks of carbon or part of the insides of the manifold. If it ran OK for a time, then started missing, it couldn't have been smashed when installed. "They said the tractor would run right at idle but would do the smashing act when revved up." If the electrode was smashed when the plug was put in like Mitch thinks could happen, it wouldn't run right for a time at idle. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2012 at 6:02pm
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It's always been my belief that forums are to help people like me out who really don't have the knowledge that most of you have. Everyone has an opinion on how to solve the problem from past experience and knowledge. I believe one should take this info, digest it, apply it to their own situation and be thankful as I am. That being said I hope you all have a nice Easter! Done! Mike ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |