Tell me about this C wheel and rim.
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Topic: Tell me about this C wheel and rim.
Posted By: BrianC
Subject: Tell me about this C wheel and rim.
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 2:04am
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C wide front end tractor s/n C59611. 9-24 tires. Pretty sure they are original wheels. While the wheel doesn't look too bad in this picture around the valve stem the metal is flaking off badly. Can someone confirm this is the 211201 rim? I am away from tractor and this is only decent picture of the wheel I could round up. One of the 4 clamps looked like it was trapped/straddled by welded on drive lugs. This is from memory, I could be wrong. Are replacement rims  available? Would they have the drive lugs? How about repair of rotted out rims, is it commonly done, and how? The tractor is painted wrong colors, I will change that. |
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Posted By: Rog(NCWI)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 3:24am
| You can purchase new lugs and bolts, both eccentric and regular, and rims from the vendors which advertise on this site. Also there are used parts to be had that you can purchase from people that part out tractors. Or you can purchase them from ALL STATES AG PARTS from Iowa or VALU-BILT from Iowa. Hope this helps you. |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 7:09am
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Brian You are correct. There are 2 small lugs welded to the rim spaced apart so that any one of the 4 wheel clamps ( 2 eccentric and 2 non-eccentric ) fit between the lugs. The lugs prevent the wheel from slipping around inside the rim. Gary
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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 7:26am
| Brian as for repairing the rot it can be done-- you need a doner rim to cut out a piece from, I ussualy make a new valve stem hole opposite from where it was, cut out the rotted area then make the patch to fit. It dose require welding skills. |
Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 9:09am
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Looks completely stock (and normal) to me. Yes, the new rims will have the little blocks to stop rotation and as described, you have 2 eccentrics and 2 regular locks. We have rims and if you need them we have salvage locks too. JimD ------------- Owner of http://www.OKtractor.com" rel="nofollow - OKtractor.com PM for an instant response on parts. Open M-F 9-6 Central. We have new and used parts. 877-378-6543 |
Posted By: EdK
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 10:37am
| After having my 1948 model C throw a wheel when ever it felt like it, and purchasing gold, (must have been gold for the cost), replacement clamps that didn't solve the fall off problem, I finally converted to bolt on rims I purchased from, I think, Miller Tire. Haven't lost a wheel since. Of course I don't try to keep the tractor "restored original" so replacement parts that work better than original are used to keep my tractor running. |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 4:23pm
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One solution for 'loose wheels' is to replace one of the 'fixed clamps' with an eccentric clamp, or in worse case, replace both 'fixed' so that all 4 clamps are 'eccentric' type. Gary
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Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 5:11pm
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I was a little concerned about how these wheels work, now I am hearing they can fall ff? In the catalogs, they describe rim as "8 x 24 rim, 2 drive lugs ,4 dimples" I unsertand the drive lug concept, but dimples? Are the dimples bumps or indents? What sets the axial location, how would you prevent a swashplate wobble. How do the clamps grip these dimples? Like I said, I am away from home, so I can't just go see it. I sort of smell a 1/2 baked idea here. But I don't remember pop saying his wheels ever came loose.
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Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 6:02pm
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The system works well, and allows multiple wheel widths if used correctly. The wheels if abused will go "square" and the locks no longer be enough to lcok them up. As said, you can go to the much less expensive 4 loop design. We sell them also, but I prefer to put folks back to original type equipment. Not sure what catalogs you are looking in, but you are in the right place now for much better info that what the graphic designer of that catalog typed up. JimD ------------- Owner of http://www.OKtractor.com" rel="nofollow - OKtractor.com PM for an instant response on parts. Open M-F 9-6 Central. We have new and used parts. 877-378-6543 |
Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 7:29pm
| If wheel will not tighten you can put sheet metal between rim and clamp and make a shim to tighten it up. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 7:30pm
The standard locks go next to each other and the eccentrics go next to each other. E.G. standard at noon and three o'clock, then the eccentrics at six and nine o'clock. They are kind of a pain to do by oneself, but it can be done. Put em on and tighten then drive it a few feet and then re-tighten again. I do this 3 to 4 times to make sure they DO NOT fall off. YES, they CAN FALL OFF! Don't ask me how I know... TeeHeHe.
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