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Topic: Small "real" antique tractor
Posted By: BrianC
Subject: Small "real" antique tractor
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 9:58pm
Co worker picked up tractor fever. He is looking for a small antique tractor.
He thinks a B is too large. I mention Farmall Cub, Massey-Harris Pony JD L/LA.
Are there others he can consider?



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Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 10:01pm
Allis G, Cockshutt 20

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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 10:01pm
How about a "G"!

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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by BrianC BrianC wrote:

Co worker picked up tractor fever. He is looking for a small antique tractor.
He thinks a B is too large. I mention Farmall Cub, Massey-Harris Pony JD L/LA.
Are there others he can consider?
 
   A Pony and a Cub are the same size as a B. Sounds like he wants a garden tractor.


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Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2012 at 11:01pm
He could get an AC B-series garden tractor, a JD 110, or something similar...

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Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 12:13am
A family member already has a G.  I think a B weighs about 550 pounds more than a Cub or Pony. I showed him pictures of the larger garden tractors, he said that's a lawn mower, not a tractor.  An old Speedex with ag tires he wasn't too hip on.
I showed him a picture of a 190 and he said that's a tractor! Then showed him a picture  of a 720. Called it a lawn mower. Is the Massey-Harris Pony a good machine?
He wants to tow it behind motor home to tractor shows.

What do we need to do to put him behind the wheel of a tractor today?


Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 4:41am
How about an Avery V ?


Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 6:23am
If a B is to big and every thing that you showed him didn't suit. How serius is his tractor feaver?
I always considered the B as SMALL.


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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 6:36am
Tell him you have done what you can and he's on his own. If a B or Cub won't work then that's that.

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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 6:58am

He needs to pick himself up a book on Tractors and thumb through it to see what he likes and go from there. Sounds to me like he's going to be looking a loooong time before he finds what he likes. You showed him a lot of "small" Tractors. I'm wit' Lonn, he'd be on his own..... B,C,CA's, Cubs, 2N's, 8N's, 9N's, they're all small Tractors that he could have a lot of fun restoring. How bout' a D21? Nice small Tractor.... Big smile

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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 7:17am
A Leader would be another one and not to common if that would excite him, otherwise I'm with those who said you have done your part.


Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 7:37am
Originally posted by Rfdeere Rfdeere wrote:

Originally posted by BrianC BrianC wrote:

Co worker picked up tractor fever. He is looking for a small antique tractor.
He thinks a B is too large. I mention Farmall Cub, Massey-Harris Pony JD L/LA.
Are there others he can consider?
 
   A Pony and a Cub are the same size as a B. Sounds like he wants a garden tractor.
Pony and Cub are NOT the same size as a B, they would be in a class with the G
Own a Cub, buddy owns a B, trust me, park them side by side, the cub is smaller


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Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 8:00am
Not any smaller but also show him the D10 and D12, the looks of those may win him over.


Posted By: gary ny
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 8:41am
The cub is smaller then the B .Any of them would be a good choice but I would look for a cub low boy , They are not that common at shows and easy to get parts for.The poney is  nice little tractor as well but getting to be more  of them around in the past 5 yrs since  i bought mine . I picked up a pacer last yr those are kind of rare


Posted By: Dave Richards (WV)
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 8:48am
If you want something rare, find a Ferguson Pony.  Am looking for one myself.


Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 8:53am
find an Economy or a Gibson

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Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 9:01am
As guys have said, he seems 'picky' OR is he looking for the rare one, as some have suggested. If he himself does not know what he wants then I am with the others...let him take time looking.


Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 9:39am
Farm king or a L and LA deere


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 9:40am
He needs to do alot of home work!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 11:28am
Originally posted by DonDittmar DonDittmar wrote:

Originally posted by Rfdeere Rfdeere wrote:

Originally posted by BrianC BrianC wrote:

Co worker picked up tractor fever. He is looking for a small antique tractor.
He thinks a B is too large. I mention Farmall Cub, Massey-Harris Pony JD L/LA.
Are there others he can consider?
 
   A Pony and a Cub are the same size as a B. Sounds like he wants a garden tractor.
Pony and Cub are NOT the same size as a B, they would be in a class with the G
Own a Cub, buddy owns a B, trust me, park them side by side, the cub is smaller
 
   There all one bottom plow tractors. The G is so different from the rest, I guess I don't classify it with any of them.


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Posted By: Boogerowen
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 11:40am
Explain SOL to him !!!


Posted By: Embellem
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 11:48am
Had the same thought as GlenninPA--a larger model Economy or a Gibson D2 (though not common)


Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 12:51pm
Originally posted by Rfdeere Rfdeere wrote:

Originally posted by DonDittmar DonDittmar wrote:

Originally posted by Rfdeere Rfdeere wrote:

Originally posted by BrianC BrianC wrote:

Co worker picked up tractor fever. He is looking for a small antique tractor.
He thinks a B is too large. I mention Farmall Cub, Massey-Harris Pony JD L/LA.
Are there others he can consider?
 
   A Pony and a Cub are the same size as a B. Sounds like he wants a garden tractor.
Pony and Cub are NOT the same size as a B, they would be in a class with the G
Own a Cub, buddy owns a B, trust me, park them side by side, the cub is smaller
 
   There all one bottom plow tractors. The G is so different from the rest, I guess I don't classify it with any of them.
True, but the CUB plow is a 12" bottom
Early ones were under 10HP

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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"

1968 D15D,1962 D19D
Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start


Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 4:06pm
if he wants smaller than a b why dont he get a peddle tractor

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wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow


Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 4:09pm
A B-10 will pull  12" bottom too....maybe he needs a AC-M crawler.



Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 4:12pm
I have a guy trying to sell me a Gibson, cool little tractor but he wants too much in my opinion. I do have a JD L/LA on my want list.

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Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 5:56pm
Small tractor and eaxy to get parts for, . . . . sounds like a cub.  I sprayed for the da%& things and one still popped up.

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Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 7:28pm
He will be hitting as many tractor shows as he can to check it all out.
You guys have come up with a bunch of larger garden tractors that
 I didn't know about. Maybe I need to get out more often. It would be fun
to have a fleet of Allis 720's, Economy Power Kings,  Case 180 ,the Panzer,
JD 420, Gibson. I heard of a Renault garden tractor with a 4cyl water cooled.
The D10 and D12 have the looks. One would look good and proper parked
between my C and 160, throw in a D14 also. I wouldn't mind a JD 1020 either.
or a Mini-Mo. My dad used to joke that were are going to farm until we
go broke. I think I will add to that, or collect tractors until we go broke.



Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 7:31pm
He wants a Shaw du-all


Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 7:42pm
Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

Small tractor and eaxy to get parts for, . . . . sounds like a cub.  I sprayed for the da%& things and one still popped up.
 
   LOLLOL That's funny right there ! Wink


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Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 7:55pm
What about a 9n Ford? Or a Ferguson 35? They aren't too big.


Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 8:04pm
the Shaw du-al started just a little way from where I grew up...we had one we used for a while to rake hay with. Nice little tractor


Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 8:08pm
 
Bolens husky ridemaster? Or how bout the david bradley in the back?


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