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Topic: "B" guys, I think I'm buried.
Posted By: mp38b
Subject: "B" guys, I think I'm buried.
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 11:32pm
I have a '38 B #9387. I traded $700 worth of firearms for it. It was not complete. It was not even a roller.3 tires exploded in the sun the first week I owned (her) it. $500 to Firestone allowed me to at least roll it in and out of the garage. $250 dollar mag, $200 radiator, $300 used sheet metal, started and ran. Engine exploded(literally), $600 in used parts has it running (with a knock). It still looks like a slapped together pile of mailto:#@% - #@% &. I need either a pep talk or a slap in the head. I know which one my wife wants to give me.


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Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 11:54pm
Doesn't sound abnormal to me. It is the trials and tribulations that make it all worthwhile.  It sounds like your project is going to be EXTRA worthwhile.  It sounds to me like you should be about past the worst of the problems. The knock comment worries me a little, maybe it isn't serious, but keep a close eye on it.

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If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done!

Posted By: mp38b
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 12:04am
Thanks. I'm just frustrated right now. The mechanical aspect is the easy part for me. Cosmetics, on the other hand... I know that my labor is not considered, but what about cash laid out?

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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 12:42am
It's pretty tough to fix up an old tractor and not spend more than it's worth when done just in parts alone. In for a penny, in for a pound...

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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford

Posted By: Cal
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 7:28am
Maybe if you tell us what you had to do to the engine we can help you diagnose the knock, like can you short out the plugs to change the knock, or does it change when you depress the clutch. Good luck and don't get discouraged. Cal in Ct.

Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 7:40am
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Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 8:10am
Having spent 25 years selling motorcycle parts and about the same amount of time restoring them I've learned one very important rule. Never, ever keep track of the time and money spent. Not just on paper but not even in your head. If I find myself knowing how much money I have in a project I quickly erase it with properly administered alcohol. Nothing good can come from knowing. It's not an investment, it's a hobby.

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Posted By: Barry
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 8:15am
Amen.  My $1000 C is now into me for close to $3000.  But, I'm sure having fun playing with it.

Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 8:15am
It's a hobby. All be it a expensive one.
The only way to make any money restoring tractors is to restore for someone else who has the hobby of restoring tractors.
Think of it as preserving history. Enjoy what your doing and don't write down expenses or keep any invoices.
Keep restoring. Consider it your contribution to economic recovery.
What is really disappointing is reproduction parts for our AC are for the most part not made in the USof A. Helped put a fan belt on a 38B yesterday. Made in India!

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Posted By: Don Smith
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 8:44am
MP38B Dont let your B get you down! Like the others have said it is a hobby not a money maker. I have a 35 wc on steel, I do not keep track of the money I spend on it, I have spent 5 years just buying parts from all over the united states. I now have enough parts to put it together. I found out that if you are restoring say a B try and get a donor Tractor, That way you will have extra parts. You can also trade parts with other collecters. Here is the best tip I can give you, Some times you walk out of the shop shut the door and forget about it for a while! Hope this helps Don in Indiana

Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 8:47am
Maybe we just have bad luck with 38 bs I tore mine down for a rebuild because it was smoking hoping I could just re-ring it, only to find it needs new pistons, sleeves, crank, cam, lifters and of course bearings. total comes out to be more than I paid for the tractor, and I haven't even got to the rear where one brake doesn't work at all, and the trans locks in 2 gears at once. so keep your head up don't thin about the money end it only gets worse think about what the end result can be.
 
Denis

Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 10:32am
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 12:48pm
Actually you do want to keep all the receipts for parts and services just in case you sell the tractor and the buyer wants to know what you have done to it and also for insurance reasons should it be stolen or burn in a fire.  If not the insurance company will try to just settle for the initial purchase price.  Just don't look at them (receipts)and by all means don't let the wife see them. 
I restored an old motorcycle that I purchesed new in 1974 for $425.  $5K later it was done.  2nd one I restored cost about $700 new but I improved my skills and it was only a $2K money pit.
It is a hobby for sure.


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