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Topic: Securing WD, WD45 During Transport

Posted By: Rfdeere
Subject: Securing WD, WD45 During Transport
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 3:19pm

Question for everybody that has hauled these tractors numerous times. I currently tie the front down by putting two clevises in the holes on the angle iron crossmember / Front Support. I have seen many others in my area do this also. I am starting to think I want some other way. So my ? is how do you all tie your show tractors down?

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Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 3:25pm

I throw a web around the front pedestal aover the front tires and pull it forwaard, then wrap aa chain thru a clevis on the draw bar. I had a guy tell me one time NEVER to just run the rear chain thru hitch or clevis that you should make a wrap of chain at that point. He said a tractor will slide sideways on a trailer the other way. He worked for our old AC dealer, then to the Oliver/White dealer after that

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Posted By: Max(ia)
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:16pm

Have two chain hooks on short chains inside the frt frame on my WC, use two chains from hooks to trailer stake holes, back into them, then two chains hooked to drawbar bail, tightened with binders. Some what the same on the D15 except I have an angle bolted to the frt with slots going toward the stake holes.

Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:31pm

Make sure you drop your chain down thru the pocket and bring it back up and hook it on the outside. It will be less likely to jump off. I normally use a clevis as well. If you have your chains at an angle away from the tractor and center and bind it, I don't see how it could slide, unless your front chain came loose.

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Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:54pm

On my last WD45 , I made a drawbar for the front and used a clevis front and rear to run a chain thru.

Not the best photo, but you get the idea, eh?

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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 6:40pm

It's my understanding that DOT requires 4 seperate hooks so if one should come undone/break the other 3 are still holding.

Dusty

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Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 7:33pm

My old WD-45s have been hauled so many times they just jump up on the trailer and chain them self down. lol

Like Dusty and the guys said four point tie it down forword with two and back with two.

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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.

Posted By: NCAllisnut
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 7:37pm

I use one chain through a clvis on the back and two binders on front. I hook one end og the binder to the frame rail lip behind the engine cross member.

Adam

Posted By: Wendell(OK/TX)
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 11:56pm

Yall will think this is insane. Had two WD's hauled in a few years ago, Hauler was a trusted friend so I didn't argue and the price was right but we loaded those on his trailer, he ran ONE chain thru the rear rims of each and off he went. I had other stuff to do so last I saw the rig was north bound at 80 mph, no I'm not kidding. 150 mile and 1 state line later he rolled them off at my place. Known him all my life and never heard of him losing anything off the trailer. Yes I tie down different from that when I haul!

Posted By: Nebraska Cowman
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 5:13am

I never tie two down alike. But I stretch them out 4 ways to the world and bind them tight. And I ain't fussy where I hook. It's my paint.

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Posted By: Matt MN
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 8:10am

"Make sure you drop your chain down thru the pocket and bring it back up and hook it on the outside."

This is a big NO-NO according to DOT standards ALL hooks and straps MUST be inside of rub rail. not the outside of the rub rail it can get sheared off while it is on the outside in an accident.

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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 2:18pm

Thanks for all the responses. I have hauled plenty of tractors so I know how to tie them down. I just was trying to get some ideas specific to tying down the front end of WDs/WD45s. This is my Show tractor so am not big on hooking or wrapping chains right on the paint. What do you all think of hooking to the front crossmember like I described above, is this hurting anything? As I mentioned, I have seen some other collectors that do this, That's where I got the idea ! Oh and Matt I wonder if he is refering to the outside of the stakepocket, inside the rubrail?

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Posted By: NCAllisnut
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 2:39pm

hooked on the bottom of the frame rail doesn't hurt any paint, unless you are inspecting the bottom way too close. I like the fact that there are no hooks or such permanently attached like I see at so many shows. I assume the post above was talking about down the stake pocket and back up the side of the stake pocket inside the rub rail, at least that's the way I took it.

Anyone see a down side to hooking like I have pictured above? I don't want to be doing something dumb that I am missing.

Adam

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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 3:03pm

AllisNut, If DOT pulls you over they will bust you for hooking like that, your suppose to always hook chain hook to chain. At least thats what a Motor Carrier officer told us at one of our local tractor club meetings.

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Posted By: farmer_rob
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 3:23pm

i thing hooking hook to link it ok the way he has it.. i would bust him on having extra lose chain laying on the deck. that could vibrate off and drag down the road.. when i haul my wd45 i place a chain on the front tires agaisnt the pedistal (didnt spell that right) then pull back on the front end .. the rear is chained over the draw-bar with a twist then pulled agaisnt the front end.. i should mention i always back the tractor on so it owuld flip over on me. also always put the load-binders on the drivers side . i always use load-binder locks that way the handles dont move. ill post a pic of how i do it later. this is the way the MTO has told me to do it

Posted By: NCAllisnut
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 4:32pm

Thanks for the info - I never knew I could be wrong in so many ways and not know it.

Adam

Posted By: StanInLowerAL
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 4:51pm

Very good safety subject. Any one have any pictures or drawings of the "DOT approved way" to do it? I have seen some equipment being hauled that made me cringe with disbelief. The worst was a small utility tractor/loader/backhoe combo that had one 2 inch nylon strap across the top of the rear tires behind the fenders. It was behind a 1/2 ton pickup on a flatbed, two axle trailer. Probably no brakes either. If I could have found a patrolman, I would have turned him in.

Posted By: Hartland Farm
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 4:55pm

When I bought license plates for my car hauler I was given a copy of the laws pertaining to it. I know things may be different from state to state but there are lots of laws here in Tennessee that can cause you trouble with the DOT. If I were new to hauling I would go to my County Clerk and be sure before I got on a state highway. Tennessee law states that if you are hauling a wheeled vehicle straps are not to be used. 4 chains attached to the four corner of the hauled vehicle and then crossed and attached to the trailer will be used. On my tractors that are showable I have made brackets for the bolts on the wide fronts and for the drawbar. I purchased security hooks and made up chains with boomers for the 4 corners. It's a lot of trouble but it keeps me out of trouble.

Joe (TN)