wheel weights-loaded tires- or chains
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Topic: wheel weights-loaded tires- or chains
Posted By: cobra
Subject: wheel weights-loaded tires- or chains
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 8:46am
| i have what we call here a mini farm. 6 acres couple of race hores. my question is what would be easiest and cheapest. my d15 is too light. when blowing snow hard to get traction. i use my tractor year round and it also slips in summertime when front bucket is full. my question is weights - loaded tires or chains thanks.the wheels on my tractor are from a combine. |
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Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 8:51am
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Get weight on the back end; wheel weights, loaded rears, or weights off the drawbar for summer use. Chains are indispensible for winter use; even extra weight on the rear will not prevent slipping on ice/packed snow. ------------- What this country needs is more unemployed politicians-and lawyers. Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2. With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 9:28am
| The answer to the title question is YES. |
Posted By: Matt MN
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 10:18am
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we have all that on our loader tractor. Fluid and wheel weights all year round and chains in the winter. ------------- Unless your are the lead horse the scenery never changes!! |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 12:46pm
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Posted By: NICKMI
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 3:04pm
Chains will offer the best traction in winter use I just put some on dads wd I don't know how he did it for 20 years with a 9 ft sc blade without them liquid weight in tires gives you the biggest bang for the buck but after time can eat your rim wheel weights are great but more expensive and they don't rot your rim chains and wheel are the best combo in my opinion  
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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 3:15pm
| For a loader tractor you need wieght for stability. Loaded tires are the best option, Calci will eat your wheels only if you let them leak. if your taking the loader off in the summer than I'd go for wheel whieghts. Either way you still need chains if you get a lot of snow or any Ice. still need the whiegt for stability. the most dangerous impiment you can have is a loader on an unwieghted tractor. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 6:21pm
I think that if you work a tractor you will load the tires, if you have a loader on a tractor you need both for stability just like Dave said fix the tire leaks when they come up and you will not have rim trouble.
I work my tractors and they have loaded tires and weights both and then the chains come out for winter work. ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Dakota Dave wrote:Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 8:11pm
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Chains help a ton, but you need the weight as well. You will find many different styles of chains, but field chains in my opinion are the best for traction. They do ride rough, but boy do they bite on anything. They are the ones that look like an X on the tire and are made out of a bent loop. I don't have mine on this year, and I don't have a picture of them or I would post it. ------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221 |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 8:18pm
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If you don't want the rust either pay the money to have them foam filled which forever rids you of flats, or fill them with windshield washer fluid. Weights help too. Foam is a bit expensive but it makes for great weight, and saves tires and rims.
------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 8:37pm
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You want the weight off the bearings or axles , so first is wheel weights , fluid, then for ice or snow chains. On my IH 460 Utility I had loaded tires and one set of weights , It worked fine on flat ground with snow blower , when i put my loader back onto tractor I had to use chains also . When using loader I needed to add 2 more sets of wheel weights , 3 sets now . When blower was on tractor chains went on also. Hanging weight boxes either on front or back or adding weight to tractor itself means the wheel bearings or axle bearings are loader heavier.
------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 8:48pm
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I had a tire sidewall split while I was running a back hoe attachment to a welding shop. The spray of CaCL rusted the tractor through the paint instantly. Rim Guard is one fairly expensive alternative made of beet juice, a product from Michigan. Windshield washer fluid works and usually doesn't freeze too hard. Iron weights don't make the tractor or the rims rust but may break your back (and your bank account) handling (and buying) them. Heavy tractor tire chains will add a couple hundred pounds weight and will dig in for traction. As will suitcase weights on the drawbar or a frame mounted out back just to hold them. I've seen a 55 gallon barrel set up with three point hitch parts and then filled with concrete. That may have been more weight than some tractors will lift on the three point. When you get enough weight to hold the back end down and keep picking up heavy loads with the loader the front axle will the the next thing to break. Perhaps loads should be subdivided. A bucket filled with snow or manure isn't nearly as heavy as that same bucket filled with dirt or gravel. Dirt and gravel loads may have to be moderated or loaded in a smaller bucket to preserve the front end and rear tire traction. Snow/manure buckets are not the right buckets for dirt and gravel. Gerald J. |
Posted By: cobra
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 5:34am
| can u use engine antifreeze? i can get it at the wreckers really cheap. |
Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 7:58am
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Titan Tires web page strongly recommends that you not use fluid. They recommend weights as needed. On the other hand, we always used fluid and I never saw any problems. Edit: We never ran radials either. I don't know if they feel that fluids affect sidewall flexing on radials or what. |
Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 9:52am
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The new fluid called "Rim Guard" is the answer. It is finally available around N.IL. now, should be more widely available soon. Essentially beet juice, non-corrosive, and non-toxic. ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |