Hi crop B?
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Topic: Hi crop B?
Posted By: MNLonnie
Subject: Hi crop B?
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2012 at 10:22pm
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I assume you guys out east are watching this auction. Sure are a neat looking tractor, once again on the wrong end of the world from me. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
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Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 12:04am
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That would be a neat tractor to drag home. The serial number is about 2800 away from my '39. I'm like you - it's just too far! Here's a picture I took of Dale Haymaker's Asparagus B at last year's OPOP. 
------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: Dale H. ECIL
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 8:47am
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The Asparagus B tractor is a basic B tractor with special front axle, fenders and rear wheels. This tractor has the wrong fenders, the only thing Asparagus is the right front axle and rear wheels that do not look very good. A person wanting an Asparagus B will have to decide if the $998.00 reserve price is worth what you get. MHO. The correct fenders for the Asparagus B is the styled WF tractor fender with a plate welded in for the axle on the WF.
------------- Allis Chalmers Museum, Paris, Il.http:// www.allischalmersmuseum.com 217-275-3428 |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 8:53am
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I thought I saw in Swinfords book that they had different gearing for the tall tires. If so, where was the gearing changed, in the tranny, rearend or final drives? I would think knowing that gearing is there would be very important before you bought one just to be sure it's not a look-a-like. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 9:35am
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The parts books do not call out any different gearing. What Swinford book did you see that in? Dale is correct about this tractor, you are really buying a front end, and some regular B parts. Those rear rims look shot, and I am not sure what they did with the fronts, as that number tractor ought to have rivited rims, and those are mounted backwards. There is no step that is usually on the Asparagus tractor either. The radiator shroud looked pretty nice, until you look close and see that it is rusted out too. At least the guy is honest when he calls it a parts tractor, as it is mostly scrap iron. I know that strikes Bill Long right in the heart to say that, but this one, even at the right price, would make me think twice about driving 3 hours each way to fetch it. I guess it is a good test of my pledge not to buy anything else for a while....  ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 9:50am
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Swinfords book, Farm Equipment 1914-1985. Bottom of page 53. I'm guessing his reserve price is less than the buy-it-now. I know your gathering funds but I'd sure throw a bid in at the end if I were you. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 10:49am
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I would want to see it in person, before I would risk a dime. Somehow 6 hours round trip to look at a junk tractor is not real high on my list, as there is one that has all the correct parts less than an hour from me..... I have not pressed on buying that one, as I have been conserving funds, but I am first in line when/if the "sell" decision is made. ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 11:05am
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I see, you're holding out on us and have one in reserve. Good for you. Hope it works out when the time comes. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 1:24pm
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I've been looking for a Asparagus B for quite some time. That one is only a couple hours away from me, but that one is scary lookin' to me! The rust worm really bit on that one and still is working on it. Anything thats been sitting outside that close to the ocean is worst than one way up North-West here sitting outside in a corn field. I wouldn't waste my valuable time either for that one. That Glenn holdin' out on us again man.... He's sly. He knows where all the good ones are hiding. Maybe if he sells a Pintle hook and get's some cash-ola' in his pocket, he might fess up! LOL! Steve@B&B |
Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 2:33pm
| He's not the only one who knows where theres some good ones hiding... |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 3:06pm
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You guys are funny, I don't do it that way. If I find something worth buying that I want, I buy it, that way I know where it is and who it belongs to. Had stuff sold out from under me when I was "first in line". ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 8:41am
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Lonnie, The only reason it ain't home is the fella can't decide if he is ready to part with it yet. Do not worry, I keep in regular contact with him and he knows that when the time is right, he will have CASH in hand. Sometimes you can't force a guy to sell, but you can sure let him know that his tractor will go to a good home if he does. That sometimes means more than money. Glenn ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 8:50am
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Glenn: Same thing happened to me with a CA, you are so right on the money. Here is the story, son of the lead AC mechanic for my great uncle inherited his CA. 15 years ago he wanted to sell it, went to visit and started reminiscing and he couldn't part with it. I said no problem I understand probably should stay in the family - fast forward to 2011 got a call from him, and was ready to sell. Would not sell to his family or others, sold it to me for same price that he quoted 15 years earlier with full complement of implements. Money does not always win out in the end! Sometimes friendship wins the day. Hope someone does get this Asp. B and works towards putting it back to original if that is possible...Orangeman
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 9:25am
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I am not sure what they did with the fronts, as that number tractor
ought to have rivited rims, and those are mounted backwards. Glenn, looks like they removed the rivets and flipped the rim around. They are 6 hole and rims look right except backwards. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 3:11pm
| If they're like thomsons they have 16" rims with wd hubs and the wd rims and tires rub so you have to put them on backwards. One of the rims on my thomson was shot so I had to use a wd wheel and scoot the center in 5/8" and weld it back. |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 7:07pm
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Thad I have had 3 thompson high crops like what you are talking about.
All three have had WD hubs also and the rims have been cut from the center and rewelded to allow the rims to be mounted correctly, this allow 1/2 to 1" away from the spindle.
I got to look at this couple nights ago as a friend was restoring one he bought from me he had the B wheels ready to bolt on found out the hard way he was going to need WC or WD wheels i never had paid attention that these wheel were different.
when he bought the tractor i told i was kepting the wheels not knowing they were different.
Learn something new everyday.
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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 7:49pm
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Sold for $615, which seems fair for what it was............. Anybody here take it? ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 9:03pm
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If it would have been 1000 miles to the west I know I would have been in on the bid. Hopefully someone on here got it. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 7:12am
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Glenn,
I won't need that narrow front for that C. I'm gonna part it out and use some of the parts for a rusty B I just purchased.....
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 7:36am
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Congrats on the new addition to the herd. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 10:07am
Steve, Steve, Steve..... Do not part out that short arm C.... Call me, I got probably whatever you need to have both.... ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Steve in NJ wrote:Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 11:26am
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I agree with Glenn, if it's an early short arm you should save it, only 108 of those made. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 2:36pm
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Glenn,
LOL! Actually, I was just bustin' ya to see if you would "bite" on my comment about the Hi Crop B. I didn't purchase it, but I'm keeping that C. I know they are pretty scarce. As rusty as it is, (things are falling off it while it sits) it's gonna need some serious "resto" work thats for sure!! I was gonna start collecting parts for that ole' girl this year. First on the ajenda is a case of Kroil.......
Steve
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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 3:00pm
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Steve, I can help out with that! I was at my buddy Ed's the other day, and I think I can scare up all the missing sheetmetal, etc that you will need. That is, if he will sell it to me! Darn, I was hoping you did buy the Asparagus B, I have to say, if I was not raising cash for land, I might have been tempted to buy it as a "parts tractor". It was likely worth the $600, but not $998.......... ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 9:33pm
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Glenn,
Tony C has a mint C grille he's gonna send me out for that Tractor, so that's a start. I understand the C fenders are different than the B fenders, so I'll be lookin' for a set of those puppies also. I might need a seat frame for that thing to. The one on there is bent up. Don't ask me how it got bent up, but its been that way before we got it that's for sure! Maybe Harold bent it pulling it out from under the lean-to....?
 Steve
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Posted By: 1946WP
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 10:05pm
| LONNIE ARE YOU SAYING THERE WERE ONLY 108 EARLY SHORT ARM C'S MADE? I GUESS I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SERIAL # ON THE ONE I HAVE. THAT ONE WASN'T ON THE TOP OF MY LIST. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 10:07pm
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According to the parts book they started using the long arm at serial # C109. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 6:50am
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I'll have to look at the serial number of mine again. I used to know it, but ya know, ya start getting a little age on and all of a sudden that CRS starts kickin' in! Steve |
Posted By: 1946WP
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 10:14am
| LONNIE YOU HAD ME GOING ON THE SHORT ARM C , I THOUGHT I MIGHT HAVE ONE ,BUT WAS MIXED UP ON TRACTORS. MY OLDEST C IS #C1613 W/ ENG # CE1603G. IT'S GOT HAND BRAKES BUT LONG ARMS. I KNEW I HAD A SHORT ARM C OUT THERE , SO I CHECKED THIS MORNING, IT MUST BE A COMBINATION TRACTOR. IT'S SER # C16355 W/ENG # CE1646G FOOT BRAKES , STEEL WHEEL HUBS & SHORT ARM STEERING . WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER 70 YRS. |
Posted By: 1946WP
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 10:41am
| WOW BAD EYESITE, CHECKED AGAIN , THE SHORT ARM C HAS ENG # CE16460G NOT, #1646G. IT APPEARS TO BE THE RIGHT ENG FOR THIS TRACTOR , BUT THE FRT PEDESTAL & STEERING ARE BOTH SHORT ARM. THINK THEY WERE CLEANING OUT THE PARTS BIN DURING THE WAR? |
Posted By: Matt MN
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 10:48am
According to the online agco parts books the short arm was used up to serial #18163 and then the long arm replaced it at serial# 18164 these are with the Gemmer gear boxes. ------------- Unless your are the lead horse the scenery never changes!! |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 11:23am
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Now that I look closer there are 2 kinds of short arms and mine has the first kind that stopped at C108. Sorry about that. If someone has the early 2 piece one, don't scrap it. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |