flushing out a coolant system.
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Topic: flushing out a coolant system.
Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Subject: flushing out a coolant system.
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 8:47pm
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Coolant on the D19 is kind of dirty looking and when I drained out the radiator to get off the front bolster, there was alot of gunk that came out. Flushed the radiator a few times before I put it back on. I just filled up with water right now and it is in the shop so it won't freeze but I would like to flush things out really good before I spend the money on new antifreeze and waste it putting it into a dirty system. I know on vehicles they make those add on kits to run a garden hose and flush the system, but how can I clean this thing out good. Is there an additive to add that will loosen things up? Would like to get it done this week as temps are mild and I can pull it outside and get it cleaned out. Any tips would be appreciated.
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 9:11pm
Chuck, I have had issues with my 38B over heating after mowing for an hour or so. Last summer I bought a jug of NAPA radiator flush. I added it to the water, ran the engine up to working temp a couple times and then drained it. A lot of nasty looking stuff came out but I wasn't sure it was clean, so I added some washing soda and ran it up to temp again. It wouldn't warm up good because I just had it idling in the shed so I put a canvas over the rad and finally got it warmed up. My next step, hopefully tomorrow will be to put a gallon of vinegar in her and run till warmed good. Then I hope I won't be wasting antifreeze by filling it up for next summers mowing chores.
I would hate to have to clean it up like I did the WC. I had it completely tore down and cleaned everything but the rad in my electrolysis tank.
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 9:12pm
I put some water in it with the garden hose and shake the rad around a few times, and dump it out. Then put water in another hole on the rad and do the same thing. Keep doing it until the water is clear coming out of it.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 9:21pm
I think I got the radiator pretty good, but I have a feeling that the block is probably just as gummed up if not worse. I think I will end up pulling it outside and flushing water through the hoses from the bottom and the top until it comes out clear.
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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Posted By: Boogerowen
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 9:33pm
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Chuck, flush your block out real good, then flush your radiator real good seperately, then add good, new, fresh anti-freeze, Good, new anti-freeze has rust inhibiters in it to take care of the electrosis that causes the rust.....
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 9:46pm
I use a product called Nalcool. Its purple in color, and you add it to the cooling system. It cleans as you use the vehicle (in this case Tractor) and you can leave it in for a few days while you use the Tractor. It'll clean while your working the Tractor. After a few days, drain and flush the system, and add your 50/50 mix of Antifreeze and water. This stuff does a great job cleaning the inside of the radiator, as well as the rest of the engine block. Its not that caustic, so its easier on you as well as the environment. Napa sells it under their brand name, but its still the same stuff. Purple in color. You also can add a little to the cooling system after its flushed with your new Antifreeze as it will clean while you drive...
Steve@B&B
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Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 11:03pm
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I'd recomend you run up the road to the deere dealership and get a jug of PMCC2638. I've had a lot of success cleaning up cooling systems with this stuff. Just watch for leaks after you get done. Its pretty common for water pumps and sleeves to start leaking when you remove the sludge thats blocking the holes.
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Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 2:10am
I went to bed one night on top of Mt. Eagle in Tn. In the morning I looked out the front window and saw a huge puddle of antifreeze. The oil cooler had let go and oil was pumped into the cooling system. Temp was normal but I only had about 5 lbs. of oil pressure. I bought oil and filled it up and limped into Chattanooga to a Mack dealer. 9 hours of cold garden hose running in the radiator,at $50/hr, one new cooler,full of straight water and ONLY 942 dollars later I was back on the road. (would that classify as a rip-off?) Called my buddy at Peterbilt in Indy about what to do and he said to buy liquid Calgon dishwasher liquid and pour the whole jug in the radiator, run my trip and when I got home to drain and flush it. Also he told me to do this for a week running the truck and clean it out every weekend until it was clean. It took 3-4 weeks to get it clean, and then I filled it with distilled water and antifreeze. It was amazing how clean it got the system. I traded that truck later for a newer one and I think it is still hauling off the farm in western Ohio.
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 10:22am
Like Dipstick I would use distilled water and keep the minerals out of the clean system.
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1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 10:27am
The hose connection kits plumb into heater hoses. Might not be an option on the D19. The kits from NAPA are about $1.79.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: Rawleigh
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 12:19pm
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Cascade dishwahing detergent (nonfoaming) was the old stand by to get oil out of the system. Cummins Restore + works well on scale and rust.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 2:59pm
As of last year, dishwashing and laundry detergents have no phosphates and are poor at cleaning, even causing aluminum to turn black.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 7:45pm
if you really want to do the job use Permatex Heavy Duty Radiator Cleaner. be careful as it contains strong hydrochloric acid which dissolves the deposits and rust, make sure your radiator is solid or it will turn into swiss cheese like mine...fortunately I was replacing it anyway
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1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow
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Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 7:47pm
washing soda works like the old Calgon and Cascade used to
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Allis Express North Georgia
41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
Ford 345C TLB
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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 8:58pm
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Great post! Hey, where does one buy washing soda anyways?
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Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 9:22pm
I can get it in my little grocery and I think in super wallyworlds, dont know bout little ones.
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You don't really have to be smart if you know who is!
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Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2012 at 9:29pm
Captn' most grocery stores have it in the laundry soap area
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Allis Express North Georgia
41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
Ford 345C TLB
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2012 at 1:13am
Your water softener makes it substituting sodium for calcium. Its sodium carbonate. Why water from a softener will wash without added soap or detergent if the water was really hard.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2012 at 7:12am
Is 'washing soda' Arm and Hammer laundry soap? I searched Wallyworld for 'washing soda' and came up empty. Whats the name for it?
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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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