Almost hate to paint this one.
Printed From: Unofficial Allis
Category: Allis Chalmers
Forum Name: Farm Equipment
Forum Description: everything about Allis-Chalmers farm equipment
URL: https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42822
Printed Date: 19 Aug 2025 at 11:46am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.10 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Almost hate to paint this one.
Posted By: Leon B MO
Subject: Almost hate to paint this one.
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:13pm
|
Friend of mine wants me to paint his 185. Pretty straight old tractor, only has 4700 hrs on a working tack. One question, is the mesh grill supposed to be cream? The air pre-cleaner and pipe seem to be to tall. The pipe has cracked the hood and has lots of play back and forth even with the plate underneath. Is this normal? I did shorten the pipe 3" and extended the support plate under the hood. I'll post a finished pic. I tried to buy it but he said his wife wont let him sell this one cause it's hers,,,,now that's a wife!!!
Leon B MO.
  .------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Replies:
Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:15pm
| Too nice to repaint, leave it alone. My 02 worth. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:29pm
| Not trying to pick a fight with Gary, but I do love shiny new paint. Better to paint a nice tractor than a POJ. But then that is just my opinion as well. Darrel |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:30pm
| Not trying to pick a fight with Gary, but I do love shiny new paint. Better to paint a nice tractor than a POJ. But then that is just my opinion as well. Darrel |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:42pm
|
I believe most of those grills were cream. If it were mine I'd paint the wheels and put a new hood decal on it. The rest looks too good. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:45pm
|
Leon the grill is suppose to be orange like it is. I have Dads here that he bought new. I remember when he cut the air breather down a little. It was that height from the factory. I am with Darrel. I like the shiny paint. It looks good for original,but it will look better then new when you get done, Black stripe 100 series have orange grills. White stripe 100 series have cream grill. The 200 is the exception,because it has the pleeted grill.
IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:47pm
Every one I've ever seen was orange. I'm pretty sure none were ever cream from the factory. The hood breaking out around the air cleaner pipe is very common. There's just too much weight hanging up there and not much holding it. |
Stan IL&TN wrote:Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:49pm
Pipe looks about right....this one is too tall!
 ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:49pm
|
We'll, if "SHE" want's it painted, it's gonna get paint ! I am not sure that is original paint anyways, there is a definate difference in the shade of orange comparing the grill surround to the hood and side panel. ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 8:56pm
| Eldon, that's not a recent picture, is it, with all of that snow? Darrel |
Posted By: AaronH
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 9:03pm
| Im with Stan, a good bath and paint the wheels new decals. be surprised what a little time with a buffer will do. |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 9:13pm
|
I tried to get him to do the wheels and decals but it's to late, it's gonna get painted, I already sanded the old decals off and ruffed up the sheet metal. I took the rear tires and rims off tonight (full of fluid) what a pain. Straightend out the front weight bracket. He must have hit something pretty hard on the right front axle, both channels of the wishbone are bowed to the left about an inch. But those are the only real issues I have found.
Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 9:21pm
------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 10:51pm
|
Leon I have a real good frontend from a 180 that would fix that.
IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 1:58am
| I know for a fact that the grill on a 1968 180 is painted cream. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 3:38am
| Please put the right muffler on it too !!! 180,s 185,s have the exhaust coming out of one side , not the middle - thats a 170 muffler - lol , just a little pev of mine |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 5:59am
|
I'll mention the front end to him and see what he says. That muffler still has the burnt tag on it, it must be fairly new, we'll just have to go with it. It is a 1975 so after looking in Norms book, I see where early grills were cream. Also in Norms book I see most of the pics of the One-Seventy through 185 have the air intake under the hood, but it doesn't mention the differences in the text.
Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: RPSallispullinmd
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 7:26am
| I would suggest the bigger stock muffler as the smaller one will worp valves as they will have to much back pressure under heavy use. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 10:45am
|
Yes, the grille should be orange. The precleaner looks to be the right height as it is. If the precleaner gets snagged on a tree branch or something, that will cause the hood to buckle. My 175 has been like that for years. It's been keeping my bodywork guy real busy latley! ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 3:03pm
|
Leon, the air cleaner pipe, hose and precleaner were optional. My 185 has it and wish it didn't have as they are a pain, as they are not a stable piece of hardware and block your vision. My dad's 185 didn't have and looks cleaner without it. I don't recall seeing a new 185 with cream grill from the factory, 180 maybe but not the 185. Dads was a 1973, my 185 is a 1978, neither had a cream grill from the factory. ------------- |
Posted By: TerryMO
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 3:50pm
| Leon, We have 3 185 and they are all orange grills, one my dad bought new and it is orange. Terry |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 5:00pm
|
Thanks for all the replies, I don't think we have to worry about the muffler hurting the valves, about the only thing this tractor will do is run his log splitter and a little blade work.
Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 6:34pm
| Hey IllGleaner, can you tell us more about your orange collection?? And silver ones too. Whatcha all got?? Just curious about another orange lover and you seem to have a great collection. Ryan |