DEALERS IN NY
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Topic: DEALERS IN NY
Posted By: mike 44
Subject: DEALERS IN NY
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 6:49am
| ... IAM NOT SURE IF THIS HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE BUT ANYONE KNOW WERE THE AC DEALERS WERE IN NEW YORK BACK IN THE DAY?? I KNOW UP HERE IN WNY THERE WAS ONE IN FILLMORE BUT THAT HAS SINCE CLOSED. ONE IN PERRY THAT IS STILL OPEN AND ALEXANDER I BELIVE WAS AN AC DEALERSHIP.... THATS 3 RITE AROUND HERE BUT YET ITS NOT A REAL BIG ALLIS AREA... THERE IS ALOT OF BLUE RED AND GREEN.... |
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Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 7:33am
| Midway Farm Equipment was a dealer in Eastern NY. Started out as Ancram Farm Supply I think. Owner is semi-retired, whenever I'm confused, he educates me! |
Posted By: EarlsGrandson
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 3:51pm
| Don't remember the name of the place, but I remember the sticker on my Grandpa's 185 was from a dealer in Medina. |
Posted By: Longmeadow Farm
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 4:58pm
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RE: Mike 44 Herford is spelled Hereford and Linisine is spelled Limosin at least in North America. I crossed Hereford with Limosin a few years back... worst decision I could have made for a grass-fed-finished beef business. They are not compatible breeds for cross breeding unless you grain finish. Angus and Hereford work well together for grass finished... In eastern NY we had a considerable number of AC dealers in the eastern/mid Mohawk Valley region.. to name a few Patternsonville Tractor Urgo's equipment Sharon Springs Garage Cobleskill Welding All were known for their honesty and integrity. Sharon Springs is the only one left and they now concentrate on Kubota ... although they will be handling Massey... |
Posted By: ACfarmboy24
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 7:28pm
| I believe there was one on Greenway New London rd in Verona, NY back in the day I know it is a dealership called Warner Sales and Services and they specialize in Bobcat equipment. |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 7:36pm
| To add to Longmeadow, Flint's Garage in Cherry Valley, Cant remember the name near West Winfield, Snyder's Petroleum in Fort Plain, and LJ Marion in Palatine Bridge. |
Posted By: Kev Card
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 8:19pm
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down here by the border we had Dann's in Horseheads NY and Stewarts in Lindley NY both gone for many years now ------------- RC,WC,2 C'S,WD45,185 ,618 LT If it's orange and rusty Mary don't trust me |
Posted By: Roger A. NY
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 9:49pm
| In central NY; Locke, was Atwaters, long sice gone, in Auburn was Main & Pickney (not sure of their present status) and Cooks in DeRuyter, long since gone. Seems like some more but my "remember" is pretty well shot! Roger |
Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 10:10pm
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Used to be a Komjathy's in Berne, N.Y. in the late 1950s, maybe early 60's. We bought a lot of Allis equipment.
Harold
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Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 12:04am
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Roger: Main & Pickney is still in business. I beleave they now sell New Holland line. In Newark there was Arcadia Oil. In Canandaigua* it was Don Howard. In Phelps Donks had a dealership for a very short time after Arcadia oil went out of business. |
Posted By: Don Jr NY
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 6:11am
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In Seneca Falls there was first Nothnagle & Pratz which changed to Pratz & MacGill and then to Salerno Farm Supply whom went out of business when A-C sold out. The original orange barn those dealers started out in still stands today on Rtes. 5 & 20 behind Fucillo Ford. In Auburn Main & Pinckney is still in business carrying New Holland as their main line but they are still an Agco parts dealer. Before it was Main & Pinckney it was known as Evans & Lind. In Newark there was Arcadia Oil as Todd said but before that it was known as Finewood Motors. As Todd also mentioned there was Donk's Farm Equipment in Phelps. There was a dealer in North Cohocton known as Robert Miller Farm Equipment. In Canandaguia where the GOTO will be in August of 2013 there was a dealer known as Don Howard Farm Equipment. There was a dealer in Martville known as Kyle Farm Equipment. That is all I can think of for now. Don Jr. |
Posted By: Roger A. NY
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 8:31am
| ToddS, I thought that they may still be in bussiness. I know that Elliot Main ( 1/2 of Main & Pickney) died with in the last couple of years. I went to school with some of his older children. He and his wife had quite a few kids. Elliot used to work at Atwaters in Locke before he started M & P in Auburn. Knew him and his family well. Roger |
Posted By: 8fan
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 9:31am
| Probably about 20 years ago, I bought some used parts from Elliot. That was an experience. He had a little barn at his house, or some house. It was more of a garage. Anyway,, Elliot had gone blind. He brought along a younger guy who was kinda big, but never said anything. I told Elliot what I was looking for, and he got up into the shelves, and felt around, and said here is what you want, and he would be right. I asked him how much, and when I pulled out the money to pay him, the big guy would watch, I'm sure to make sure it was the right amount. I only met Elliot that one time, but he sure seemed like a real nice guy. |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 9:41am
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One of the early Allis Chalmers dealers in New York is still in business.
Max S. Wood Equipment on route 9W in Coxsackie, New York. Started in 1935 as an Allis Chalmers dealer. Is still an AGCO dealer. ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: gary ny
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 9:45am
| I can remember going to Chittenango farm supply when I was a kid and loading up on sales info on all the allis equpiment.I had stacks of it and my mom got rid of it .There was also Churches Allis dealership in baldwinsville .Stack equipment in rome .Deppolettis sold allis for a while in canastota. |
Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 9:52am
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My mom got rid of all of my reading material too!!! ------------- I Love Meatballs and Dumplings on Toast with Gravy and Rosemary and ??? {Open For Suggestions} |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 5:40pm
| Don: I'm sorry but it was Arcadia Oil long before it was Finewood motors. My Mom and Dad bought a 1975 Plymouth Grand Fury III from them. I remember as a small child going into Arcadia Oil well before that. |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 5:42pm
| Jeff Z. Who was the dealer on 146 south of Albany? When I was hauling cars out of Selkirk I stopped in there 1 day as they had an Allis baler for sale. Got to talking with the guy, who now works on cars, and he told me the history of the place. They still had some little parts and books along with the sales counter. It is south of 787. |
Posted By: agcodick
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 9:59am
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Here are a few that I know of Alexander NY, still an Agco dealer Kelly's garage in Perry, NY still and agco dealer Burns equipment in Bath, NY. went out after Allis went out Meartins motors in the buffalo area, was last and Agco Allis dealer Dann's equipment in Elmira, NY. Went out in the late 80's Robert Miller Co in Cohocton, NY. Now Empire tractor was one of NY's biggest dealers. Was Agco parts till about last year. Fillmore Farm supply in Fillmoe, NY Was last an Agco Allis dealer |
Posted By: Tim in NY
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 10:28am
| There's Tipple Equipment in Mellenville, NY still in business but no longer an Agco dealer. Also when I was a kid the farm up the road about a mile from ours was an AC dealer named Rock city Implement. I have a Series3 D17 with their dealership sticker on it. There were several other small dealerships in the hudson valley also as several farmers had small dealerships in their day. I've been able to pick a few over the years. |
Posted By: DaveC/CVNY
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 2:46pm
| Sharon Springs Garage was an Oliver Dealer before they sold Allis. There was L.S. Huntingtons in Westford that was an Allis dealer before Flints, my parents bought me a bar grill 190 toy from there in 1966 for $2.95 ( yes I have the sales receipt). There was also Hardy Hanson in Oneonta. |
Posted By: mike 44
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 9:10am
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I crossed Hereford with Limosin a few years back... worst decision I could have made for a grass-fed-finished beef business. They are not compatible breeds for cross breeding unless you grain finish. Angus and Hereford work well together for grass finished...
been crossing herefords and Limousin (not Limosin) for years had nothing but success with them... I tried Angus a few years back and hated them (not a smart animal)..
thanks for all the info on the dealers there sure was alot back in the day should see more old orange stuff in the weeds.... of course alot has been junked since then
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Posted By: nyacdon
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2011 at 11:26pm
| some dealers to add to the list in northern ny--in canton--dewey cornell which became hundley equipment which became don forsythe equipment which became john mcbath equipment which became ralph crandell and came to an end.in north bangor was debyah's--in evans mills was madison farrell--in the depauville area was glen johndrow--in castorland was roe's--in ogdensburg was john scott later spencer merry and in lafargeville and later still active in both canton and watertown waldroff equipment. i'm new to the forum but have been a visiter for quite some time.i grew up on a dairy farm in the morristown-ogdensburg area working with a farmall a which i started driving on a hayloader at the age of four but my real fun was two wc's--one of which was repowered with a 226 leroi--what a bombshell going from 27 to 50 horsepower turning 2100 plus rpm's--made a young fellow's eyes twinkle. enough for now gotta get a few winks to face tomorrow. |
Posted By: bigallis1
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2011 at 7:11am
Mike, When we had the GOTO in Canandaigua in '94, I put together an unofficial listing of Allis dealers in NYS. and had it displayed. It included Lawn and Garden dealers also. There were many dealers names added to the listing as the show progressed. The final unofficial count was approximately 115. I still have all the info but I can't get at it until April of next year. A gentleman by the name of Robert Raycraft provided me with most of the names. Jim Hanna......... |
mike 44 wrote:Posted By: agcodick
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2011 at 12:17pm
Here are some scans of magazine ads I have found over the years. Its
interesting to compare the Allis list to the Deutz list. This is an
excellent way to find this kind of info. Any old implement and tractor
and farm journal magazines have these lists in them.   |
Posted By: Randy MN
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 4:38pm
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I was wondering if any one from eastern NY area would know if there ever was an AC dealership or store selling AC equipment in the small town of Berlin, NY? Thanks for any info. ------------- 34 WC #477, 38 B #1935, 1-116 on steel, #8 7ft dbl action disc, #9 5ft dbl action disc, 295 Chainsaw |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 6:54pm
Toddsin I think your talking about us  My grandfather sold willys cars first  Then he bought out a allis dealer up on 9w from Ed weisheit, our parts bins came from him and some of my he older parts. He also used to go up to the railroad in Selkirk and get tractors off the rail cars and bring them down to our yard for other dealers to pick up 
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 8:00pm
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I can remember dad and gramp talk about komjethys in Berne, that's about 30min away from us. And also tipples in melenville, there across the river from us. And max woods is like 15min from us, we do a lot of business with them, they still are agco parts dealer. Like I said above Ed weisheit was an old dealer, I think they also sold Farmals, which I think our old Farmal regulars came from there, I'd have to ask dad And ask him what others he remembers |
Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 10:36pm
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Hey Mikez, I originally come from the Berne-Knox area where Komjathys were. I went to school with there daughter. I worked on a farm not to far from them. Bought a lot of Allis equip. from them. When I was younger about 1950, dad would take me there and Mrs. K would cut my hair. Came to Omaha in the service, worked for several local farmers, and married a farmers daughter. Love it here. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2019 at 10:42pm
| Yea I remember you telling me few years ago about that. Interesting. If I think of it someday I'll take a picture of the building |
Posted By: WNYBill
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 10:18am
| How about Culbert in Wellsville, NY |
Posted By: JayD-17(NY)
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 1:48pm
| The predecessor to the Pattersonville, NY dealership was Glenville Tractor Sales, just west of Schenectady/Scotia along the Mohawk River; operated by William "Brownie" Brown from about 1948 - 1979. The building still stands, currently appears vacant. |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 4:24pm
| I have a 7030 panel from original owner on my wall in garage. Has a hardy Hanson and son sticker on it oneonta tractor sales oneonta, ny. Sharon springs garage is still in business. There was an allis dealer in Frankfort,ny cant remember the name though. |
Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 7:47pm
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Bleeds Orange, Frankfort was URGO's. Frank Potenza was the salesman and my brother with the dairy still bought short line equipment from him until he retired from another dealer. They were so close to the Herkimer County Fairgrounds that they drove tractors with implements from the dealership in town up to the fair every August. Last or one of the last tractors they they reportedly sold at URGO's was a 8050 FWD. Popped up for sale by the original owner a few years back near Dolgeville and was reportedly low hours, needed an exhaust pipe and rear glass but he knew what it was worth. We purchased stuff needed in a hurry from URGO's as close to us in Little Falls, otherwise from Stack Equipment in Rome who was my dad's brother Bob. Had one arm as lost a hand in an A-C left hand delivery corn chopper in the late 50's. Stack Equipment was originally across from the state hospital, plenty of space for us kids to ride A-C mini bikes, Model G's and Terra Tigers when we visited.
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 10:52pm
| I'd like to find some tractors that came from my grandfather |
Posted By: Ed&Sherry
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 6:01am
| back in the 50s there was Ward and Van Scoy in Candor and Thetga Farm Supply in Nichols also Mattews Farm Supply in Harpersville |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 6:16pm
| Any of you guys think your tractors come from our area, we found some receipts from when gramp got tractors from allis chalmers with the SR numbers. I could check and maybe yours come from here |
Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 6:06am
| Waldroffs of Watertown and Canton. |
Posted By: Longmeadow Farm
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 7:03am
| "Engelke" in Stamford NY. Probably went out of business around the time I went into the service...around 1960. |
Posted By: Bob-Maine
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 1:32pm
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Big Allis 1, It would be great to see that list posted on here when you get back from the south. You might check to see if Conrad Engelke is listed as a dealer until the late 1950's He was in my hometown of Stamford, NY, about 30 miles east of Oneonta. I used to hang around there as a kid. In 1957, we had a snow storm that closed schools for 2 weeks. All the roads were snowed in and farmers couldn't get their milk to a creamery. Conrad was also a contractor and had a new HD-11, I think. He had a man on it opening roads. When he gave it up, Keith Buell opened a dealership in South Gilboa, about 5 miles east of Stamford. Bob@allisdowneast ------------- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not sure. |
Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 9:42pm
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I remember that snow storm in 1957. We shipped 22 cans of milk a day. We fed anything that would drink it. and cleaned out the cloths washer and made butter. We had to dump a lot of milk. Lived between Knox and East Berne at the time.. |
Posted By: gleaner1
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2019 at 6:53am
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Anyone happen to notice the small wording below Deutz-Allis on the dealer list? This was 5 months after the US management buyout. I’ve seen very few ads with this. ------------- ALLIS CHALMERS "The color is orange" |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 11:11pm
| Was just told that a local wd45 was from a little dealer in Delmar New York. Would like to find info. I'm going to ask our town historian |
Posted By: 243Hunter
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 11:34pm
| Years ago there was atleast 4 dealers in the hudson valley. There was one in Dover plains that the newest it sold was d-series. there was tipple equipment in philmont up in columbia county. One over in bullville near Middleton and an guy that I'm not sure if he was an actual dealer or just specialized in ac by the name of ray craft |
Posted By: Bob Thompson
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 6:17pm
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Bernard Howard was the Allis dealer in South Alabama. He bought the Allis franchise from LaVerne Ingalsbe in the early 50's. My grandfather bought a new WC and a 60 combine from Ingalsbe. I still have the combine. Howard also sold New Holland equipment. I have a New Holland 77 baler that my grandfather bought new from him. In the late 1930's I believe Akron Service Garage in Akron also sold Allis Chalmers equipment. In Medina Loades (may not be spelled correctly) was the Allis dealer and it changed names to Lake Plains at some point |
Posted By: Kip[NY]
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2019 at 10:25am
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A well-known dealer in our area, Henry Moak, died recently (OAN Winter 2019, pg. 52). According to his obituary, "In 1963, at the age of 17, Moak purchased an Allis-Chalmers dealership from Arnold Johansen and moved it to his home in Bacon Hill", which is near Schuylerville. The obit said that Henry's Farm Equipment "was one of the top A-C hay and forage desalerships in the U.S." Mention A-C around here and Henry's name will still pop up. ------------- 1959 D-14 SN/21089 "Martha" |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2019 at 5:43pm
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My Dad bought a new 780 chopper from John Poirier from Brasher Falls NY in the mid 60's. I don't know how long he was a dealer. There was a guy named Pellerin that had an AC dealership. IIRC, it was in the 70's. Neither were dealers for very long.
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 6:00pm
Harold here’s a picture of what used to be komjathys I took today  |
Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2021 at 8:27pm
| Hey ! Mike Thanks. That's a lot smaller than I remember, but I was a lot smaller too. I joined Facebook ( I quit that yesterday because of there policy) Found people related to me since I left school , also found the daughter of the farmer I worked for from 52-59, she was 3-4 when I went to college. She still remembered riding the school bus with me. She also married into my family. Thanks again, check my post earlier on showing antique tractors. Komjathy's daughter was in my grade in school. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2021 at 10:45pm
| well this is where my dad always tells me it was located. I’m pretty sure he was one of the dealers my grandfather would get tractors off rail cars at Selkirk station and bring them to our place for dealers to pick up |
Posted By: Bob-Maine
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2021 at 12:16pm
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There was an AC dealer, Willits-Larson Farm Supplies, in Westfield, NY, my wife's home town. I have a copy of an ad from 1950 in which they pitch ordering a roto baler for spring delivery. I own a 1950 B that was sold to a local man and I have the original bill of sale. It is made out to his wife, Pearl, includes 10 X 24 tires, pulley, hydraulic system and shaft for $1195.00. I am the second owner. The bill of sale was printed for McCrude Brothers, Allis Chalmers and GMC truck dealer, and Willits-Larson stamped over the original name. Bob@allisdowneast ------------- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not sure. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2021 at 7:28pm
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L C Smith in Delmare ny Ed Weisheit in Selkirk ny 9w and church rd
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Posted By: Ron Eggen
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2021 at 9:15pm
| how about a list of PA dealers from Farm Journal ? My son lives there and I would have some places to check out when I visit . Thanks . |