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190 diesel transmission locked up

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Topic: 190 diesel transmission locked up
Posted By: John_SWPA
Subject: 190 diesel transmission locked up
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2009 at 8:11am
Running down the road between fields in 8th gear pulling an AC 13 foot disc,  the engien started bogging down, and then both back wheels locked up and skidded down the road. After a few minutes, we were able to pull the tractor backwards, and get it off the road. The next day, checked fluid levels in the transmission, and it was low. Filled it up, and was able to run the tractor fine.  after it warmed up, it started randomly popping out of gear, but jumping right back in going down hill.  Going up hill, it sounds like it has an extra load on the engine, but otherwise seems to be fine.

I'd assume something major it wrong.  The tractor is a 1964 built with serial number 1128, 1900 original hours, and has never had any work done to the engine or transmission or hydraulics. 

Anyone have an idea what I am in for?  Is this going to cost thousands to fix?  Are teh parts still available?  anyone else have this problem or am I "special?"





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John-

"If I can't fix it, I'll fix it so no one can."



Replies:
Posted By: niele
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2009 at 9:34am
John it could be that your pinion bearings are seezing up are the gears inthe diff hub are galling to the shaft ands it could get pricey but we have about 20 acres under orange and have quite a few parts in shelves so if we can help call 1 618 282 2477 or after 5 pm central 1 618 282 2048 Niel


Posted By: skipwetle NWIA
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2009 at 12:38pm
Ive had that happen before,   sounds to me like one of   the gears has seized on the main shaft.    Luckiley after it cooled it broke loose, that may be why its poping out of gear as the thrust washer are to thin-wont know that until you tear it down.    Usually if its siezed once it will happen again as damage was done the first time.  Could also be the pinion bearings like niele says, thats not good and will wreck a ring gear pretty quick.  The gears in your trans are kinda common only to the first run of 190s,  I have s/n 1207 at home, but it shows a lot of wear and should have went to the salvage yard, but since its a low s/n I bought it.    Good luck.


Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2009 at 1:25pm
Try pouring LUCUS trans additive to it.The film of oil keeps parts from comeing in conttack with other, Oil may have broken down . Good additive might loosen it up.If it does Change oil plus add additive



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