190XT Clutch
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Topic: 190XT Clutch
Posted By: 55WD45d
Subject: 190XT Clutch
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 6:25pm
I am looking at a 190 XT that has some clutch issues. The clutch both slips and sticks. It is hard to get it in gear when the tractor is running. All forward progress can be stopped by pressing the brakes and not touching the clutch. It seems to slip more in low than high. Has anyone dealt with this issue before and what needs to be done to fix it.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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Posted By: Tony Elo
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 6:59pm
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are you talking about the foot clutch?from what you are describing it sounds like there might be broken springs in the clutch or the input shaft of the transmission is worn or burred,not allowing the clutch to slide on the shaft
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Posted By: 55WD45d
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 7:16pm
Yes it is the foot clutch. The tractor seems to move pretty well with the power director in high but the tractor still moves in both N and Low with a lot of slip.
Thanks
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Posted By: stray
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 7:41pm
It sound like you may have problems with both the power director clutch and the foot clutch. Being hard to get in gear would be a foot clutch problem, like a broken spring, a pilot bearing out of it, or the clutch disk binding on the input shaft, or to much free travel in the foot clutch. Still moving when the Power Director is in neutral is a problem with the hand clutch, bushing for the control arm worn, miss adjusted linkage, wrapped clutch pack disk and plates. I would think that the first place to start would be eleminate the foot clutch problem first. Check the free travel of the clutch pedal it should be around 1 1/2" to 2" if it is more than that adjust that linkage, and see if it will go in gear then. If it does then find out where it is slipping.
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1969 190XT series 3
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Posted By: 55WD45d
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 8:57pm
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On a somewhat related topic, is the Power Director designed to be shifted under load. I was told that they were not when I was looking at a tractor but that would seem to defeat the purpose. Thanks again
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Posted By: stray
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 9:13pm
I've never heard that, I think the Power Director Clutch is one off the smoothest working clutches while under a load.
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1969 190XT series 3
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Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 10:04pm
Yes, shift that PD under load. Won't hurt a thing. They will even hold back going down a hill unlike the Junk TA on the red tractors.
Power directors are like anything else, they will eventually wear out over time. You hardly ever hear one being torn up from abuse though and it takes many hours to wear one out. They are pretty darned tough.
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Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 6:38am
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The old saying on the Red ones; put a dollar in a coffee can, every time you touch the T/A handle cuz your going to need it for the upcoming rebuild . . . . . .
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