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Topic: Split the tractor?
Posted By: Redkap (IL)
Subject: Split the tractor?
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 10:23pm
I drove my WD45 to the field today to haul a few straw bales in the dirt scoop (deer blind).  When I got to the field, I started hearing a whining noise in the transmission.  I proceeded to go the last 200 yards in 2nd gear, and the tractor felt like it was under a load.  When I went to leave (figured I'd try to limp it home) it "surged" a little as I started, then bogged down and made a little "pop".  Of course I shut it down.  What did I do???  I assume I'll have to split the tractor to find out what's going on.  I pulled it home in neutral with no problem.
 
I overhauled the engine a couple years ago, but have never worked on the tranny.
 
Thanks,
Kevin


Replies:
Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 6:31am
Has the trans got oil in it. I would probably take the top off the trans first. Then you could push the clutch in and get it in nuetral and see if the front half will turn. You could just see if it will run in nuetral with the clutch out. JP    

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 7:16am
If you pulled it home in neutral without a problem, there must be oil in the transmission and that is not where the problem is. How about a roller on the hydraulic pump eating it's pigs??

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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 8:00am
I didn't notice that he "pulled it home".JP

Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 8:34am
Pinion bearing locking up. Most likely from lack of oil.
  Let us know.   MACK

Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 9:00am
My D14 acted that way when I pulled the Traction Booster lever all the way down with no load.  Don't know how that is controlled on a 45.

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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 10:12am
start the tractor in neutral and see what it does. engage pto and see what it does. test huudraulics--- push in cluthch and put in 1st gear.. let it out... put in 3rd gear. let out the clutch.. noarrow down whats going on.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 11:55am
Exactly WHERE did you check the oil???There are two square headed check plugs on the left side of the torque housing....one in behind the clutch pedal and the other just ahead of the clutch pedal and then the hydraulic dipstick ahead of that.

Posted By: Redkap (IL)
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 12:00pm

I only checked the dipstick.  Should I open the plugs too?  I didn't know I needed to be checking places other than the dipstick. :-(

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2009 at 12:11pm
The dipstick is only the hydraulic oil !!!!!! Check the two plugs.....they should be full of 80-90 wt oil.

Posted By: Redkap (IL)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2009 at 12:59pm
Well, I feel like a DxxbAxx.  Finally had time to pressure wash the tractor today and push it into the shop.  Doesn't look like there's any oil in the rearend.  I'm going to stick a rod into the holes to find out if it's completely dry.
 
Then I'll probably jack it up and see if the wheels will spin.  Probably inspect it from the top to see what I've messed up.  Can't imagine that I can just add oil and go.
 
Any other advice appreciated.  I guess I need to get an operatiors manual to make sure I don't screw something else up.

Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2009 at 3:33pm
Pull the differential cover off the back, you might be able to see real quick what is happening.


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