dimensions for header cart
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Topic: dimensions for header cart
Posted By: Lonn
Subject: dimensions for header cart
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 10:12am
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I want to make a header cart for my A630 corn head and one for a 315 bean head so I can more easily store them inside. Looking for demensions if anyone can help. Like how high to place each beam and how far apart.T hanks.
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Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 10:51am
| You can buy the kit from Shoup pretty cheap 485 bucks and its adjustable. The biggest thing I have found to help are the small tires tried to make our own with a running gear yrs ago when I had gleaners it was a b###h getting the head off once it was on with the regular wheels. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 1:24pm
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Posted By: Roddo
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 2:52pm
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I built one just a few weeks ago out of an old wagon gear. It had 5 bolt hubs that 13" trailer tire bolted right onto. That lowered it down just the right amount. I welded a big piece of angle on one side and made an adjustable pipe frame on the other that folds up under a piece of C channel when I want to set the corn head on it. When I use it for the grain heads I need to set some wood blocks inside the channel (you can see them sticking out in some of the pics, I cut them off so it doesnt look as stupid) or the feederhouse hits the inside of the channel when I try to back out of it. My total investment has been 120$. I had metal lying around and the wagon gear. The head on it is my 13' grain head but it was built for my 16' flex. I can take some more pictures of it with the head off if you'd like.    |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 4:26pm
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That would be great Roddo if you could take some closeups when you get time. I have an old trailer house frame that I can get angle irons and channel irons from and I have an old heavy running gear. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Roddo
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2011 at 7:58pm
| Its at work so I will snap some tomorrow when I am forced to be there..... |
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 7:41am
| I agree with the others to put small wheels on the combine side of the header cart. We have several that are home-made and look a lot like the one Roddo posted. We started with normal wagon running gears and we had access to power-line posts and used those as the main cross-piece. |
Posted By: mnhorseman
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 8:21am
| power line post's work well for the main beam on any wagon running gear and on one unit i have i even just added a axle, with a short reach and put my 8 row corn head on one just make sure you have a tounge that can be taken off in shed save's a lot of *%$#* stumbles when ya walk past (smiles) |
Posted By: Roddo
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 5:44pm
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As promised, here are some closeups. The inner frames for the supports are 1 1/2" od square tubing, and the outer parts of it are as close to 1 1/2" id square tubing as I could get cheap. The pivot brackets are actually used trailer spring shackles (from a 3500 tandem setup, you can find these at trailer stores anywhere). I cut the shackles off right at one bolt hole, and presto, a pre-drilled bracket ready to weld. The cutterbar support bar slides in and out on its rail to accomodate my grain head or flex head. The lower (straight up and down) supports are going to be drilled in a few spots as well to fine tune the height of the support bar. Havent had time to finsh it yet. The bar itself is 5/16 wall water pipe I had lying around. The piece under it is 2"x5" c-channel. The cutterbar support bar tucks inside it to allow my corn head to sit on the channel. The other side is just a rusty old piece of 3"x4" angle iron. The corn head drops right down inside it. The grain heads sit lower and the feederhouse caches it on the way out so I screwed 3 pieces of 2x8 lumber together and I lay it across from the angle to the c channel and the grain heads sit perfectly on it and I can back right out. As stated, smaller tires give you alot more wiggle room when it comes to backing out of the header. I tried it with the original tire from the wagon gear and the heads would hit the tops of the tires once it was 75% of the way to where I wanted it. You could force it over the tires, but you'd never get it back out. First 2 are of the support bar in its stowed position for the corn head.   Now some of my pivots and cutterbar supports    And just a front and back shot   You need any more pics or explaning let me know. Just needs some paint now.....
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 10:19pm
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Thanks Roddo. That'll help a lot. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |