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Topic: auction with 85 L3 gleaner
Posted By: skyhighfarms
Subject: auction with 85 L3 gleaner
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 8:24am
we have been looking to up grade combine and this one is coming up in  a couple of weeks in convoy oh  it has 2510 hrs is there any thing to watch out for on it with the hours i do not imagine to find much wrong with it sells seperate but has this 6 row head and a green stripe 320 head also  what would something like this be worth??  looking on internet prices all over board
1985 GLEANER L3
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Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 8:33am
I had a 78 L2 with the big motor and L3 cleaning shoes. It was a heckova machine, probably equal to an R52 with the upgrades that my AC mechanic and I had done. I think it would make you an excellent machine, given it is in the shape the picture shows. They are pretty simple to keep running. Might be a real bargain in todays market!

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Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 8:37am
Looks like 30.5 drive tires and those luggers on the rear will for sure take you through a lot of mud, (like standing water)even if it doesn't have a mud hog drive.

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Posted By: steelwheelAcjim
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 9:21am
I wonder if those hrs. are seperator or engine? Should have two tachs. Anyway, main shaft bearings would be the first thing i'd check.  The hrs. are about right that they may need attention. I always felt my L2 did just as well in corn as an R50 or R52.

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Posted By: Russ-neia
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 9:35am
I bought an 84 L3 with 6-30, 4-38 and 315 with 3500 engine hours for $7700 in spring 2010.  Being out of season and seller had a poor reputation for maintenance hurt it's value.  However, he only owned it 2 years and prior owner was type "A" about maintenance so I took a chance on it.  

Ran it through dealer's shop and put about $13K into everything.  Corn heads needed very little.  Bean head needed complete rebuild - cutterbar, reel, pan under auger, skid shoes!  Needed cylinder bars and concave, so I put in a St. John's Welding enclosed cylinder with wide-spaced rasps and 9-bar concave ($4500 more). Worked excellent in corn and beans last fall and oats last week.

From my experience, check main and idler bearings (for electric clutches).  Check unloading tube and swivel.  Check metal sheet under separator raddle (likes to crack in the corners).  Check wood block bearings for walkers.  Get the bean head up in the air and see how it looks (rock damage?). 


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Posted By: Russ-neia
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 9:37am
Also, from the photo that would be an earlier cornhead, so it may or may not have the floating bevel gears for the stalk rolls.  It will also have the short/stubby divider point tinwork, as opposed to the later heads that were about 6" longer.

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Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 11:50am
It looks to me like it is only 2wd.  The rear hubs dont look like 4wd to me.  It does look pretty clean to me though.  I am not a big fan of the series 3 headers.  The one we had was nothing but trouble in short beans.  Down here, a lot of people seem to think their L2s are worth 10-15k, and I would put that combine in that price range.  If it is actually only 2wd, that hurts its value quite a bit in my opinion.  


Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 12:02pm
Check bottom clean grain auger, also check clean grain elevater for wear on the sides. Get in the grain  hopper and check the auger and floor under it. If they let you start  and run the machine check for any vibrations (like from the chopper). Should make you a fine machine.. Just a guess, maybe around 10k..


Posted By: skateboarder68
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 9:23pm
If the hours are engine and it runs good (have someone engage the threshing and run full speed while you walk around & listen) I think $10,000 would be towards the low end for a late L3.  If I needed it and it came from a good home I wouldn't think twice about $15K.  We ran an '80 L2 and I loved that machine, the only thing I would have changed would be a heavier rear end.  Had to be careful turning on ends with gullys but what else is new.  Just my .02,  Good luck!


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 9:31pm
If it's had major work done to it like cylinder bars, cleangrain auger/elevator, unloading auger swivel, bearings things like that I'd put it at $20,000 or maybe more. If it just a used combine with no maintenance records but looks good then half that.

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Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 9:40pm

Let us know how much it sells for. Lokks like a clean unit. Good luck.



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Posted By: TREVMAN
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 10:53pm
There not making any more of them...It looks clean from the pic, but unable to do a close inspection I'd say 12-15 k. Is it a hydro? I didnt see that anywhere. If it is its worth more, makes a very good combine better. Those tires are worth a small fortune.  As far as the headers, I dont have a clue. Check the bars, theyre not cheap. Good luck, Trev.


Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 11:00pm
Looks like a real winner there.

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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2011 at 11:13pm
Its already got the silver rims so it was just afew serial numbers away from getting the green stripe decals. It looks really great. There are allot of things to look at that affect price. If it runs as good as it looks, I would say around $15,000.  Just me thinking out loud. Ryan


Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2011 at 12:16am
WOW.  L3s will go for $5000 all day long in SD. Heads usually go for 10 cents a pound.
Getting tough to get a N series over $10,000. Different places ,different prices.


Posted By: Redpower1456
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2011 at 1:48am
http://www.siefkerauctions.com/aa-auctions.htm?az_feed_pos=http%3A//www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi%3Flid%3D1207583%26feed%3D129%26group%3D0%26state%3D%26kwd%3D%26zip%3D%26category%3D0%26nojava%3D0 - Here is a link to the auction info:

http://www.siefkerauctions.com/aa-auctions.htm?az_feed_pos=http%3A//www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi%3Flid%3D1207583%26feed%3D129%26group%3D0%26state%3D%26kwd%3D%26zip%3D%26category%3D0%26nojava%3D0 - http://www.siefkerauctions.com/aa-auctions.htm?az_feed_pos=http%3A//www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi%3Flid%3D1207583%26feed%3D129%26group%3D0%26state%3D%26kwd%3D%26zip%3D%26category%3D0%26nojava%3D0

....primarily IH stuff, but that L3 sure does look nice. There are several more pics of the Gleaner and the corn and grain heads if you scroll down through the pictures on the auction link site.




Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2011 at 9:49pm
For the lawn and garden guys, that a really nice Simplicity 'Wonder Boy' Looks like well kept equuipment. No one should be afraid to buy at that sale.

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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 8:29am
There was a 85 L3 green stripe on auctiontimes that had over 5000 engine hours and 3300 on the seperator that sold for $17,100!!!
  http://www.auctiontime.com/OnlineAuctions/Details.aspx?OHID=6365029&lp=th& - 1985 GLEANER L3 30658 US $17,100 ND 
http://www.auctiontime.com/OnlineAuctions/Details.aspx?OHID=6365029&lp=th&">1985 GLEANER L3 Auction: 8/3/2011; 5,016 Hours; 3,293 Separator Hours;
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Posted By: Russ-neia
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 9:49am
I thought silver wheels came with the green stripe and purple (gun metal blue) cab and chassis?  Were each of the color changes made gradually?  First time I have seen them mixed and matched.  I always assumed the wheels had been changed when I saw silver wheels on a older Gleaner.

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Posted By: Dean/MN
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 4:58pm
If you look at the auction bill it says that it's a hydro. All the pics of the machinery look like it's clean stuff.

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Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 6:06pm
All L3s were hydro.
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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 7:55pm
It looks like a well taken care of combine. All the equipment looks to be in excellent shape. I would purchase anything from this sale on looks alone. Ryan


Posted By: TREVMAN
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 9:39pm
We had one of the last L3 s built, it was not a Hydro..Had a 301 FYI, Trev.


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 9:44pm
Wow!! If you are correct Trevman, I learn something new everyday!! Ryan


Posted By: TREVMAN
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 11:24pm
I'm correct on this one Ryan. I dont have the serial number anymore, but it was badged Deutz-Allis it was green stripe with silver wheels. It had a KHD badge in the steering wheel. It had just about every option that they came with except Hydro. I think it was a Corn/Soybean Special decal on the hopper, which was unusual for these parts. It was an 1986 model that my dad bought new in late 1987, for $77000 including 13 foot header with a Victory super 8 pickup. He also got a new 24 foot straight header as our 22 header would not connect up without some modifications to the hydraulic connector. It had the floating feeder beater. It also came with the floating header option. We had trouble with the knife breaking for about 2 harvests until I figured out the pitman arm had been assembled upside down. We welded it closed and remilled it, never had trouble again. IT WAS NOT HYDRO, but he bought it anyways because it was a smoking deal. They wanted to sell him a rotary, he wouldnt have it. The 301 had lots of power, it was a really nice machine had a lot more capacity than the M2 it replaced...


Posted By: Redpower1456
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 12:49am
Indeed, I remember seeing a green stripe L3 on an auction lot several years ago, in Ohio. I climbed into the cab to check it out, and I remember it being a gear drive, not hydro.


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 7:58pm
I would have bet the farm that ALL L3s were hydros!!! I learn something new everyday. Thanks for the knowledge Redpower and Trevman. Ryan


Posted By: Redpower1456
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 1:50am
So how much did the L3 Gleaner go for? Did anyone make it to this sale that can report?


Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 7:48am
I was there.  Also had Duetz-Allis at top of cab along with silver wheels but no green stripe.  Had 24xx engine hrs.  No sep. meter.  Had lots of stuff wrote on sides of combine like what shafts drive what etc.  Also when ever they changed a bearing they wrote the date next to it on the combine.  Unload auger was replaced, had liner in bin floor.

L3 $28000
320 $6000
corn head $4000

3788 $26000 went to Kansas City
1 owner 1086 2100hrs. $29000
1086 3400 hrs. $24500 also going to KC
1086 4400hrs. $18000 going to Bowling Green KY
1 owner 706 3070 hrs. $6600
706 with sprayer $8800
AC 2000 mono-frame 4 bottom with add-on and extra parts brought $850, it was nice, but here plow price usually follows scrap price.


Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 8:19am
WOW.. Could of bought an R series for that kind of money..  I could buy 1086's all day long around here for 15,000. (or so I thought). Maybe I need to get out more often..lol.


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 8:48am
$28,000 ???? WOW.


Posted By: Redpower1456
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 1:46am
Wow, those are some steep prices!

Thanks very much for your report Jordan.


Posted By: arrowcreekfarms
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 6:59am
Wow the fellow that owned that stuff must have a good reputation for maintaining his equipment. Those prices seem kind of  high but it beats the price of replacing that unit with a new unit of equal size

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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 7:45am

 We were thinking about that 2+2 if it went cheap, glad we didn't go!



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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 8:03am
A good L3 is worth more and a better machine than a R searies.  MACK


Posted By: aras
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 8:05am
I agree with the last statement.  An L3 is a great machine!


Posted By: skateboarder68
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 1:31pm
Best L3 I've seen since a Decatur, IL sale back in  Feb. 1996.  It was low houred (like 1200 engine and 800 seperator) had 2 fuel tanks, hydro, green stripe.  Sold for 43,000,  green stripe heads 20' went for 8,000 and 830 corn head brought 9,000.  May be a little off, anyone else remember the sale.  Had a 2wd 8070 sold good too.  I would rather have that L3 than an R52 with 3,000 engine hours for the same money or slightly higher.  Our gleaner mechanic said an L3 capacity wise would be between an R52 and 62.  Thanks for posting the prices!


Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 7:27pm
It all goes to say that well maintained and well cared for equipment will bring a great price. Can I sell a shed to anyone?? LOL!!!! Ryan



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