6080 or 185
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Topic: 6080 or 185
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Subject: 6080 or 185
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 11:24pm
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What would you choose? Thinking about getting something a little bigger than the 175D for some of the brushhogging jobs I do...worked the crap out of the 175 today on 8' tall swamp grass.....maybe a stripped down 190XT would be better?? Tractor and mower need to stay under 10k in weight for hauling..... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
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Posted By: singingpig
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 12:08am
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Instead of a different tractor, I'd goto a different mower. A flail would mulch that swamp grass fast, and you could use a wider mower, finish faster Tractordata shows the 175D at 62 HP, same as my FOrd. Have no problem with a 9 foot flail on my Ford |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 5:21am
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6080 would be my choice, more gear choices, live PTO ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 7:23am
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6080, you would have more power, and probably be better on fuel. Nothing wrong with a 185 though either. I have a 180 at 80 hp and love it, its very good on fuel also.
------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 7:58am
| 190xt is about 8,000, how much dose your mower weigh? |
Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 9:49am
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you could get into a 185 cheaper than a 6080, although a 6080 has more gears and independent PTO. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 10:19am
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I think the 6080 weighs less than the 185. The turbo 4 cylinder has excellent fuel economy (and power - mine dynos over 100). You also get live PTO, fully synchronized transmission and a faster road gear than the 185. One thing you might need is front weights. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: BStone
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 12:58pm
| I have a 185 and it's been great.Have a 6060 and it's also been great.I had 2 185's and sold one for $4350.Down in Tx there hard to sell.They ask 3 to 4 thousand $'s more for the 6080's but they are newer and nicer...synchronized trans. and user friendly PTO's. |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 2:27pm
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Besides a lower price, the 185 gives you the power director and its wet clutch. That can be quite useful at times.
------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 3:16pm
| Hate to say it Eldon but you had the perfect 185 in the palm of your hand. |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 3:30pm
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Shucks, Eldon....get one of each and then report back on which you like better. :) ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 3:32pm
Dave - that's the BEST advice yet...Eldon's not been known to be stingy about adding to the collection!!! Mike ------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Dave(inMA) wrote:Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 4:30pm
| I vote for the 185 ; I have both and will take the 185 any day - the 6080 has more speeds but the gear speed between intermediate and hi is terrible ; you have to keep the engine above 1800 rpm,s to get anything out of it , its helpless as a loader tractor - will spin out in grass and thats with an AC loader with a 4 ft bucket and loaded 18.4-34 in. rubber and wheel weights; they are not balanced at all , spins out easily with 2 ton of feed in a grinder mixer ; I just dont like it at all ; now the 185 is great , the powerdirector is so smooth , its easy to change transmission gears with the PD in neutral without grinding , the 301 engine will run great at any rpm , with power and not just smoke ,put 34,s or 38,s on it and you have fast road gear , the hyd. pto is great !!! IMO the 185 is twice the tractor over a 6080, but thats me |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 4:58pm
------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: skateboarder68
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 7:03pm
| We have both, the 185 with the 301 starts very easy and has more torque. It isn't the best mower tractor cause when you want to stop you either have to disengage the pto or put the PD in neutral. As for the 6080, a brand new tractor would be no better on a mower, GREAT fuel economy, live pto, shift on the fly, turn on a dime. Both have good road gears - our 185 & 6080 both have 18.4X34's and the 185 goes 1 -2 mph faster. Both very good tractors, good luck Eldon! |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 8:39pm
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Nice 185 on tractor house. Little TLC and it would be ready http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6381097& - http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6381097& ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 8:43pm
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I like this one, kick off the cab and lose the duals. 2200 hrs. http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6216683& - http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6216683& |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 9:32pm
------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 9:39pm
I think you may be exagerrating a bit on the 6080, 185's are an awesome tractor but the 6080's are good also. They are two different animals though. I've ran both and IMO the 6080 is a more user friendly tractor. Not better, just more user friendly. I dont agree with the comment about the 6080 being a bad loader tractor at all. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: EricTn
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 9:49pm
| I like my 185 except for the speed selection is limited. Either way too slow or a little too fast. Best I remember 1st high range is 2.6 mph, 2nd low range jumps to 4.1 mph (per shift pattern chart on tractor). Nothing in between in the 3 mph range, which seems to be what I need in most situations bushhogging especially in unknown territory. JMHO Eric in TN |
Posted By: HARVESTMOONPULLER
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 10:22pm
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Heres one for ya. http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/grd/2523737789.html - http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/grd/2523737789.html
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 10:50pm
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Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 11:12pm
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Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 11:13pm
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Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 11:15pm
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Posted By: kffischer
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 12:24am
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disc mower would be another option. three point and pull behind models are available and the smaller ones don't require much power--your 170 would pull a small one. Don't get one with conditioner, then the power requirements come up and you may as well make hay. We have a discbine (with conditioner) for our haying and it will take 5 or 6 foot tall grass without complaint and it can cut through small trees and shrubs if you need to or don't maneuver out of the way just right... karl f
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 1:32am
| I'd give the one-ninety XT a whirl. I just came in from baling with mine, and I love it. I know you wouldn't have any shortage of power, and fuel economy is awesome. I'm pretty sure that you are pretty handy with the PD, so lack of true live PTO shouldn't be an issue, either. Darrel |
Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 5:22pm
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back the end of june i pulled a 10" woods in thick crep hevily infested withand 8' johnson grass with my 6060, and it handled the job easily, it would pull it in 2nd high but the ground was a little rough so i used it in 1st high, never gave a problem ------------- i like old tractors of all colors |
Posted By: Russ SCPA
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 5:59pm
| Couple off the wall ideas here, for size and weight considerations the 175 seems well suited, just needs some more "grunt", that is easy. Curse words coming continue with caution, the 390T MF used a 236 Perkipiller with a waste gate turbo, the intake, turbo and exhaust system will both right on a 248 HINT, HINT, HINT |
Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 8:16pm
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Howdy Eldon, This spring I sold my 185 and the 6080. Get both because their both great tractors. Sure enjoying Montana, still no orange yet. Kurzy
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 11:19pm
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 11:24pm
After today I'm wondering if the JD MX8 would hold up to more power. I'm fighting a bolt that holds the stump jumper on that doesn't want to stay tight...and now the gearbox is heating up....I'm having more problems with a 5 year old mower than the 35 year old tractor! ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Longmeadow Farm
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2011 at 5:18am
| A few years back I thought I was beating my 175D up using a 7ft bush hog in heavy grass/weeds, as the engine temp would continue to rise as I was using it..way into the green. I looked at the radiator and determined that it was partially plugged. I cleaned the radiator out... compressed air and vacuum, which was a somewhat "elongated" job and fashioned a screen to go behind the grill. What do you know... temp now stays in the white.... My 175D handles the 7ft model 287 Bush hog just fine... even in tough going. I also fashioned a screen for my 6080 to keep the "junk" out of the radiator...l |
Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2011 at 6:07pm
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here is a shameless plug video of the 6060 in the crep, the parts that i am cutting in the video is thick but not tall in the bottoms i was standing up to see over the johnson grass, so i could not hold the camera, but it does not know the 10 foot woods is back there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CMZagGLquk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CMZagGLquk ------------- i like old tractors of all colors |