Back when they where new
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Topic: Back when they where new
Posted By: AC WD45
Subject: Back when they where new
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 1:29pm
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Post pics you have of AC's from when they where bran new or almost new. Any model welcome! ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 3:53pm
This is me and Daddy on a pretty new 1939 B. I'm 71 years young now and this photo has been shared on this forum before
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 4:01pm
Here is the same B as above when brand spankin new. I was not born and living in the two story yet. This is my Grandpa Steffen and Uncle Marvin. The farm was at 3837 west 111th st Chicago IL
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 4:06pm
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Ken, is the tractor still in the family? ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 4:10pm
Another shot of the B and us. Left to right Grandpa, Daddy. Little me, Neighbor Ben K. This is the day the farm stand was being moved to a new location further back off 111th st. B got a workout that day.
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 4:22pm
Here is one more Aggen Farm B picture. The 39 got traded in on a 47 after the war Lonn. Dad and Grandpa sidedressing sweetcorn.
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 4:33pm
| I believe this color picture was taken about 1968. The two story farmhouse I grew up in was now covered in insulbrick siding. Less to paint. You can hardly see it for the elm trees. I spent many a hour behind the wheel of this B when I was big enough to reach the clutch. |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 5:12pm
Here is another oldie. The 39B working at the Aggen Farm in about 1946. My Grandparents Steffen and Edith gathering the field corn.
Sorry folks but I can't seem to get my resizer to work.
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 5:47pm
I hope I'm not boring you all. I think this is a picture of Dad planting early sweetcorn with the new B. It looks like it still has a pretty good shine. This is dated spring of 47 or 48.
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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 5:52pm
| Ken I keep looking at the last pic. Can you remember the cloth type on the seat cushon? Cool pics. |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 5:58pm
| I love old pictures!!! And those are great Ken!!! |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 6:09pm
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Thad. One thing I do not remember is cheap looking black vinyl seat covers on either B we had on our farm. I don't think there was such a thing as a black vinyl seat cover on any B or C when they were new. Heavy duty OD grey green cotton canvas duck cloth is what I remember.
In the last picture of the B pulling the corn planter I remember the strawberry patch you can see looking behind the planter. They wouldn't let us kids pick strawberries because we ate to many.
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Posted By: jnicol6600
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 6:27pm
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Not boring at all. Its pretty interesting seeing these old tractors at work. This is a great thread. |
Posted By: D-allis Iowa
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 6:34pm
| Ken, I remember the green canvas as well on the C. I still have the C but the seat has been replaced. |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 7:04pm
Here are some photo's from my family over the years, most have been on here before...
 A-C D-17 Series III purchased new in 1964, photo date unknown, it still has the plastic on the seat.
 A-C 500 series cultivator, purchased new in 1966, photo from 1966.
  A-C 78 hay rake, purchased new in 1967, photo from 1969.
 A-C Gleaner AII, purchased new in 1969, photo from 1969.
 A-C Gleaner F2, purchased new in 1977, photo from 1977.
 A-C Gleaner M2, purchased new in 1983, photo from 1984.
 A-C 7080 pedal tractor and wagon, purchased new in 1977, photo from 1977.
 A-C 200, purchased new in 1975, photo from delivery day 1975.
 A-C 1300 series field culitvator, purchased new in 1980, photo from 1980.
 A-C 5000 series cultivator, purchased new in 1975, photo taken right after dad finished setting it up in 1975.
  A-C (DEUTZ-ALLIS cover up) 8030 and A-C 2500 disc, purchased new in 1986, photo from 1986.
 A-C 185, purchased new in 1972, photo from 1976.
 A-C One-Ninety XT, purchased new in 1967, photo form 1967.
 A-C Two-Ten, purchased new in 1972, photo from 1974.
 A-C 7hp Homesteader, purchased new in 1971, photo from 1972.
Just wanted to share. Thanks.
------------- Matt Folkers FOLKERS RESTORATION Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 7:20pm
| Great photos everyone!! Oldoug, I love that invoice!! Do you mean that Deutz Allis discounted that tractor over 50% of list price just to sell it?? My times have changed!!! Ryan |
Posted By: jhid
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 7:29pm
------------- red and green are nice for christmas, but orange is all year round http://www.canadianantiquetractor.com/tractorforum/ |
Ryan Renko wrote:Posted By: omahagreg
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 8:00pm
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I like the phone number on that earliest invoice Oldoug! ------------- Greg Kroeker 1950 WD with wide front and Freeman trip loader |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 8:42pm
Here is another B oldie. It belonged to my cousins husbands grandfather. It is one of those 41B specials with the adjustable tall front axle. 5 stud splined rear axle adapter hubs and reversable rear wheels. Electric start and lights. This B is still in Howard's family (Restored) with a aftermarket 3 pt and a rear blade. He uses it in the winter in Crete IL to clear snow from his drive and the neighbors drives too.
I have one just like it in the barn to restore oneday along with about 3 more Bs and 2 Cs
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Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 9:06pm
| Ken, I love those black and whites, I just went thru a box this week from our farm . Love all of the pictures that everyone has posted, looking forward to all of the rest !!! |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 9:29pm
| Love the 210! |
Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 9:38pm
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Alright, here they are, from grandpa.... Here is the Allis G cultivating....My great grandfather, my grandpa, and great aunt in these 2 pictures....
  Below is my great grandpa, and I think it was his nephew, around the war time, he had a uniform on, Tractor is a C
 Here is my grandpa and great aunt again, with an All-Crop and WC tractor with a half cab...
 And last, this was grandpa in 1962 I think, with his new D-19 gas tractor..
 ------------- Galatians 5:22-24 "I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 9:41pm
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two cry babies lol ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 10:26pm
They must like John Deeres and were forced to sit on a AC. My Guess is the little Guy is Howard DeYoung and the little girl is his older sister.
 Here is another pictuure of the same tractor
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 10:59pm
| Cry Babies are cryin because Grandpa put the rear wheels on the wrong side of their tractor. |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 12:00am
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When I was 5 or 6 a neighbor down the road from our place on Hinckley Ridge, Ohio bought a brand new B. We went to look at it being delivered. I remember the seat being kind of silver but it was canvas. This would have been in 1953 or '54.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 8:03am
| I don't recall ever seeing the rear wheel/axle configuration like that on the "cry babies" B before. |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 8:49am
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Brian
You don't see many of these Splined adapter hubs anymore. I think one of the reasons is the hubs were machined from poor quality steel. I have about 8 of them and the splines are worn so bad they are unuseable.
I have been kicking around the idea of welding the adapter hubs to the axles and making them useable. If a flanged axle works in a B why won't a adapter hub welded to the splined axle stub work. From the seal back, both axles look the same. The nut inside is what holds the axle in.
If you ever get to Dales Museum in Paris IL there is a 38? B in his collection that has these 5 stud adapter hubs welded to the axles. No BIG nut and you can see the weld real good.
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Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 9:00am
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Thanks all for All the photos!!!!!! So great to see and especially the tractors at work! When you go to most tractor shows they are not at work...so THANKS. It brings back memories for me..even though the only allis we had on our farm was a B and then a D-10 to cultivate 20-25 Acres of tomatoes. We had JD, Farmall, Case, Massey tractors too.
Pastor Mike |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 9:53am
190XT III, one of the last ones. A couple years old here and the A is young at 40.
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Posted By: Flint23
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 1:43pm
| Wow! these are some great pics guys.. |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 3:48pm
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Thanks AC WD45 for starting this and thanks to all those who posted, and a special thanks to Ken in Texas for so many posts and great info.
Just another example of the reasons this has been my favorite site since I got my first computer back in '99!!
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 4:33pm
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Brian
Glad you liked what I posted. Bill Long is not the only one on this forum who likes Bs the best. I wish I knew more about the latest Bs built after 1952. These are the low annual production Bs with the CA torque tube.
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Posted By: beeman
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 7:50pm
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Love those pictures!! Thanks to all who shared. Made my day. ------------- 1949 B 3930 Ford- Have owned other Orange ,green,red,yellow,dark green tractors and equipment. |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 4:23pm
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Olddoug, those pics brought back memories of grandpa's neighbor Phil Kramer's farming when I was younger in the 90's. especially the one of the Two-Ten with the dog. Rode along in a John Deere 4020 with a year-round cab hauling grain from the field for countless hours. I can hear the dog barking and panting and waggin around just lookin at it lol ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2011 at 7:24pm
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Anybody dug up anymore? ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: TomMN
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2011 at 7:45pm
Here grandpa's RC was almost new.
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Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2011 at 8:53pm
| NOW I LIKE THIS [BACK WHEN THAY WERE NEW] ALL POST |
Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2011 at 10:47pm
If I read that invoice right, you bought a $55,000 tractor for $25,000. Deutz must have really been wanting to dump those orange tractors. |
Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2011 at 10:56pm
 I've posted this one before, but the middle one is my Dad on his new WD45, and my uncles on my Grandpa's tractors. I now have the 45, the whereabouts of the other tractors is unknown.
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Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 8:07am
$10600 after trade! |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 9:16am
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Dads 1965 190XT in May of 69. That's me, I'm 10 at the time.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 9:34am
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In the early 90's I remember trying to tell a fellow student at the ag diesel mechanics course about how low priced the 8000 series Allis' were being advertised for in magazines when they were new from Deutz Allis. He just wouldn't believe me (john Deere head). I looked and looked for an old farm magazine with the advertisements but never could find one again. This is the proof that I wasn't dreaming. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 10:26am
The 80's were a tough time it just wasn't Deutz-Allis discounting all brands were doing it. Here's a few more I got...
 My Dad's and Uncle David's One-Ninety XT's photo from 1969.
 Dad's new Dual loader and One-Ninety, photo from 1975.
 Dad's 1972 200, it was new to us, photo from 1980.
 Dad's 7020 the day it was delivered, photo from 1983.
 My Uncle David's D-17 Series IV, photo from the late 60's.
 Dad and I with the Two-Ten, I was pretty new, photo from 1977. ------------- Matt Folkers FOLKERS RESTORATION Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. |
Posted By: AaronH
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 10:30am
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This is my Dad on the wd45 they bought new, I think 55 or 56?
http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/uploads/437/dad_45_2.JPG For some reason I cant just insert pics from my file manager anymore. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 11:28am
Looks like your Dad had a side dresser on it.
If you look at the hub mount you can see the four lug bolts with nut heads on them.
Don ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: jhid
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 11:56am
here you go  ------------- red and green are nice for christmas, but orange is all year round http://www.canadianantiquetractor.com/tractorforum/ |
Posted By: AaronH
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 11:58am
| Its very possible, sadly, my father and the tractor are gone. I do bet there are some attatchments laying around for it at the Home farm. I could ask my uncle today. |
Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 1:46pm
| I remember in DEC. of 1978 i bought a new 175 diesel i traded in a 1966 D17 ser.4 and gave $8250.00 dif. the 175 list for $13250.00 that was my 1st. new tractor i was 20yo. at the time' and intrest was high back then 17% with ALLIS CHALMERS CREDIT CORP. and the payments were $278.00/mo. the tractor is long gone but the dealer COX EQPT. in Pittsfield il. gave me a new black AC vest and a orange AC coat when i traded i still have both of these. wish i had some pics. to go with the story. TOM. PS. JUST THINK A GOOD LAWN-MOWER WILL COST $13000.00 NOW |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 3:33pm
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My WD45 in the 80s. Before my time, I was born in '94 
------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: deereequipment1
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 4:02pm
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hey OLDDOUG,
on that 6030 receipt, what's a heck of a special Duetz Allis discount.
It was like half of the original value. What was that discount?? ------------- Raised on a CA,WD,D10 & D15. Now, proudly own and pull a WD45 high crop, WD45, WC, also own a D-10, D-12, G and a CA. |
Posted By: m16ty
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 10:41pm
I figure it was just KHD (Deutz) trying to dump all the remaining orange tractors. All they wanted was the AC dealer network and the Gleaner combine. |
Posted By: BobHnwO
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2011 at 7:41am
Pic.taken about 1942.
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Posted By: DouginIL
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2011 at 4:17pm
Grandad's 1927 20-35 E. Photo taken in 1934. Dad on pony. 
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Posted By: jpessek
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 10:27am
 Allis Chalmers 6080 from Schramm Implement in Hutchinson MN in the 1984 Stewart MN Harvest Festival Parade.
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Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 3:53pm
| Thanks to everyone for time and effort to upload these interesting pictures. You can make an old tractor look like new but you can never go back in time and take a picture of an original one, so keep the old pictures coming they are the only ones we'll ever have! |
Posted By: didgood
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 6:06pm
| very neat pics. Thinking out loud, I'm not familiar with the 6080, but I noticed the spin out rears. Did the front have the adjustable axle? Could you put a spin out on the front of a 4x4? |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2012 at 6:30pm
------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 5:23pm
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I like going back and reviewing old posts like "When they were new" I missed the last photos of the early hand crank B. Taken in 1942. Just like I said. These early Bs came new with single rib front tires. The Aggen Farm first B , A 1939 had single rib front tires. We can now buy new Firestone Single Rib front tires from Miller Tire.
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Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 5:43pm
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“Could you put a spin out on the front of a 4x4?” Probably. But it would be difficult to spin the wheel in or out unless you jacked up the rear wheel on the side you were working on. And if it had a no-spin front axle? No way. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 6:20pm
Speaking of tires, I was reading in a book a while back called "Plow Peddler" by Walter Buescher, who was an Allis employee from '36-'75. He said in the '30s/'40s when the tractors were new, the tires were made of natural rubber. Because of this, they began to weather check after just 3 or 4 days in the sun. One time a widow lady bought a model B from his dealership, and after seeing the slight weather checking on the tires, she raised heck saying they tried to sell her a used tractor. He took her to the dealership where a whole carload of Bs were waiting to be unloaded, and pointed out they were all slightly weather checked as well. This satisfied her, and ended the ordeal.
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Posted By: Robert Musgrave
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2018 at 12:22pm
| I do remember that the bench seat on the B was some type of Olive-Drab canvas with some type of water-proofing coating on it; it almost was like a type of tent canvas. R. Musgrave |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2018 at 7:09pm
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I too really enjoy the ol pics. Thanks for posting everyone. Oldoug, I will say, your family did it's part to keep Allis-Chalmers growing in the 60's and 70's. I'll never forget getting off the school bus at my uncle's house, I helped with the evening milking, and seeing the brand new 200 on the silage blower. As a 10 year old kid, it was like Christmas. Wish I had a picture of that. Dad and my Uncle Kenny bought a new 175 with a 500 loader on it, I got to drive it home from Galloway Equipment, it was nasty cold but it didn't bother my a bit. Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2018 at 10:01pm
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Yes Bob, they were canvas of some sort. I remember one of my uncles calling it something, but I don't remember what it was. I just know they all had a special name for it. Yeah Leon, that glow of being so young and getting something so important to do....That would have given me enough heat to be happy too. I never got to drive anything newer than a D-17.  ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: 1955CA
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2018 at 7:35am
| Very nice pictures and histories! |