Off to find a lawyer......
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Topic: Off to find a lawyer......
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Subject: Off to find a lawyer......
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 6:34am
So I've had enough....4 years and its all I can take. Bought my house 4 years ago the day before sheriff sale...the judge forced the guy to sell because he was forcing it to foerclosure in a nasty divorce mess....well he still lives next door because he was screwing the lady that lives there....hence the divorce from the previous wife. So I buy this dump...no siding, windows smashed out, garage falling down...a real fixer upper. So dad and I take the better part of a year and make me a nice home. Well about 3 months after I bought it, this guys new hunny had her kid out back who was like 12ish....him and his buddy were banging baseballs off my garage so I told them to stop....well her and this guy come out and threaten physical violence, and verbally harass me. Its been downhill ever since. They put water in my fuel oil tank which screwed the finish on my new oak floors(called cops, couldnt prove it) and screwed up my boiler. They have harassed me over the years, had me arrested once and trump charges that I got thrown out....made them and the state trooper look dumb in front of a judge....well last night the wife and I got home and I parked my 2500HD in the driveway which borders their house(homes are close together on this street) and even though it had rained they mowed their 12 inch deep yard that day. I jumped in the Dually to make a parts run for the mower and left the GMC parked and the wife at the house. When I came home I noticed the neighbor had made two passes blowing grass out which covered...and I do mean covered my driveway, the side of my GMC which just got painted on that side from a guy hitting me a month or so ago, and my white sided garage.....I had to wash my garage, and my truck last night before I could leave.....I've had several other problems with them as well(dogs barking constantly, dogs in my yard, their dogs running and crapping in the cemetery across the street, not cleaning up their yard and the bugs being so bad I couldnt sit on my porch in the summer, trespassing, and the balless wonder of a boro manager we have wont do a thing, the boro council head sent a letter telling both of us to stop going to the boro or it would go to the District Magistrate(if I farted crossways she'd complain to the boro).....so folks I'm at wits end....I've had enough, and I'm seeking legal council. Anyone have any other advice? I own my home, they rent and their landlord wont do crap either.....this is ridiculous...... Sorry for the long rant.....
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 6:47am
Neighbour from Hell.....
Options
1) Put your place up for sale and move....
2a) Borrow a backhoe and dig 3 trenches, 6' long, 2' wide, 6' deep in front yard,properly 'yellow roped' off( safety first).
Anyone questions what they're for, just say planning early for Halloween...
2b) Post notice in your windows that you just bought a nice shiny chrome plated Glock this week !
#2 is what we'd like to do, #1 is the sensible thing to do.
STRESS will kill you.....then those neighbours WIN....
(hmm..didn't you see them selling drugs the other night......best call the FBI ?)
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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 6:53am
Install a fence down that side of the property. A tall privacy fence if the local code will allow.
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Posted By: ernie(IND)
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:01am
Been there, done that and the best advice I can give you is sell and get out. Life is way too short to put up with it. If possible, move out in the country where your nearest neighbor is about 1/8 mile away.
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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:03am
Sounds ike you need to invest in fairly good quality security cameras, if you intend to stay there. Put one or two on the other side, and three or four on their side, make sure you can't see in any of their windows, and record ALL the time. Start calling the cops only when you have hard evidence of a serious crime, lawn clippings on your truck and house, no matter how bad are not a crime, but water in the oil tank is. The cameras will either stop the crap, or give you the evidence you need to bring charges and actually win. When you have altercations do it in plain view of the cameras, then if he hits you, and you don't hit him.....don't try to set him up either, let him hang himself!!!
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:19am
Good fences make good neighbors.
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:25am
Benny, You won't win with a lawyer, all a lawyer will do in a situation like this is lighten your wallet significantly.......not a shot at lawyers, it's just that this is not a situation where a bigger hammer will solve the problem. My suggestion is to find a disinterested third party to help negotiate a peaceful settlement. But this will only work if both parties are interested in forgetting the past and living together in peace. There are professional conflict resolution people, or, could be a retired judge, etc. Also, just remember honey works better than vinegar. For instance when the young lad was bouncing balls off the garage, instead of going out with a verbal club in hand....try asking him nicely not to do so, and explain why, and thank him for his cooperation. This won't work right away, but, with patience, it will eventually work, at least with the kids....adults may be a different story. All else fails, move.
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Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:26am
You should not have to move but, it may be the best in long run, assuming you can sell and get a decent return on your investment. It may be a blessing in disguise as there is most likely a better location to settle that you would be happier at. If you must stay, I think the highest/strong/best fence idea would solve your problem, just remove the nasty humans from your space.
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Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:28am
Stan IL&TN wrote:
Good fences make good neighbors. |
Gees what a foggy memory I have. Wasn't it John Steinbeck tht figured that out?
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Posted By: Teddy (punchie)
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:36am
Hey Would ask how things are but, looks like you explained that. I bought a WD wide front off of you this spring.
I'll ask around around about pics , I recall the PSP using them or turnpike for tickets and then they, passed something about it be not usable for tickets. If I recall it is not usable for trespassing. Not that they can go after you for a crime if you do, but may not be albe to use it as evidence.
I'll be in touch later to girls to get out the door.
Hope you can straighten this out !!!!
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Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:47am
Now you know why the place was a dump when you bought it. Move ASAP. Nothing a lawyer could do will solve any of your problems and could actually make them worse.
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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:58am
Benny, My father told me a long time ago there are two thing you have little control over: Who your family is and who your neighbors are.
Just might as well plan to move.Sell that house to some hood rats and give them some of their own medicene.I know you have a lot invested but you cannot put a price on happiness.
------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
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Posted By: Jeff-in-Kunkletown
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 8:23am
I think I'd go the fence route Benny, that is if the Boro lets you. Selling the place might not work because with all the houses on the market people won't give you a second look when they see the dump next door. Security cameras might be a good idea though. I'm sure Shameless could probably give you a few "creative" ideas too. Good luck.
------------- Sucess is how high you bounce after hitting bottom. Gen. George S. Patton
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 8:40am
I like ernie(IND)'s idea, except that the nearest neighbor being an eighth of a mile away is way to close. I like at least a mile of space. That may be a little easier to do here in ND than in other parts though. But regardless, I say just move. Darrel
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 8:51am
Dave H wrote:
Stan IL&TN wrote:
Good fences make good neighbors. |
Gees what a foggy memory I have. Wasn't it John Steinbeck tht figured that out? |
I think Robert Frost.
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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Posted By: junkman
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 9:02am
Was in the fence businesses for 15 years and most of our business when it came to privacy fence was bad neighbors. We even built one 10 feet tall and put boards on both sides staggered so no one could even look through the cracks.
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Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 9:09am
Benny - I had my share of neighbor problems both next door in a rental house and down the street both ways - all three the proverbial "white trash". Had not all 3 of these sets of people moved on their own we had very seriously considered at moving ourselves. It is extremely stressful to you and your family. You are constantly pi$$ed off - you go to bed mad, you wake up mad and all you can think about is dropping a ton (or twenty) of bricks on these low-life's.
I agree with the comments about not hiring a lawyer to go after these people directly with a lawsuit. Talking to one might be useful for some advice though. The only place I can see where legal pressure might work is on the landlord. Yes you've "talked" to him but if you feel compelled to lean on anyone I'd start there. He's the one with the relative "deep pockets" and is likely to have liability insurance to cover damages by his tenants. If you found out who his insurance company is and have a lawyer send them a letter they for sure would apply a BUNCH of pressure on him if they think they'd have to pony up to defend a lawsuit and pay damages. What I will tell you though is if you actually follow through with filing suit you'll risk a bogus counter-suit and as many have said, the situation will get much worse at that point.
Don't you have other neighbors - esp. on the other side of these people? If others are unhappy with these people the situation changes dramatically if it's them against many instead of one-on-one. Mike
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 9:26am
Fence or for sale , fence tall enough and strong enough will need permit.
Some people are so miserable in their lives they want to export that feeling to everyone else.
If you could dig deep into their feelings , I believe you are seen as a cause of the old problem for if you had not bought the place life would have been fair but your the one who caused the problem.
Sell as soon as you can and have peace in your life.
Remember fence may keep the bad out, they may also prevent the good from getting in. We can build a fortress with no doors or windows to be safe but we also prevent the joys of life from entering .
------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."
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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 9:55am
Benny, I would sell and move. You don't want your new bride to have to live in that situation, it puts added stress on everything. I was in a similar situation with a new wife several years ago, and eventually sold and moved. Best thing I could do as the h0le neighbor was not going to move; he bragged about how he had forced the previous owners to move, also. If I hadn't moved, he would have died from "lead poisoning", and then I would have been up the creek!!
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 10:08am
MOVE OUT! you will never beat a bunch of ANIMALS!
------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: clovis
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 10:18am
I agree with the others...go find a real estate agent instead of a lawyer.
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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 10:18am
Since the housing market is pretty soft right now, consider what it would take to have your property enrolled as Section 8 housing. Hire a management company to deal with the tenants (probably more low life than your neighbors), and don't look back. The place will get tore up and end up a crap hole, but don't let your emotion get in the way of getting your money out of the place. Since you got it at the right price (I assume), let it work for you, and don't let it kill you. You got a whole lot of living left to do, don't get off on the wrong foot.
------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise.
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 10:38am
I agree with Glenn, move and rent the place out to people worse than them....
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 11:20am
A couple other ideas. You might contact the neighbors insurance co and mention the poor way the house they cover isn't being well cared for. Insurance companies don't like run down houses and will put pressure on the owners to clean up their act. A fence may be a solution but I get the impression the neighbors don't have much respect for others property. If the real estate market is soft and you have good credit, perhaps you could make an offer to the owner of the house and buy it. Probably best to go through a third party so the neighbors don't know who the buyer is. Have a lawyer or management co evict them and get someone you can deal with. Moving would be easier but being a landlord could be more profitable.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant
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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 11:47am
John has the answer. Buy his rental from the owner and evict the SOB. Then you can pick your neighbors.
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Posted By: Rogers
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 12:09pm
I would want to use a take on Jay's #2, but the best thing to do is probably move.
I don't think a fence will help. They have gone so far as to have you falsely arrested. That is not something a fence will help stop, so I think it is an option destined to fail.
I would not pay a lawyer as Lou said they will just lighten your wallet and not solve the problem.
One thing you may have available, but it will cost a boat load of money. You said they rent. Buy the house from the owner and kick them out. That is probably not an option because of the money, but it would solve the problem.
After all is said and done the best and cheapest thing to do in my opinion is move. If you can afford just to be anti-social as they are and on Jay's line of thinking tear the house down and yell good riddance %^^ #$%^ when you move and donate the land to some charity. I suppose the best thing is to just move..........
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 1:40pm
Lots of good suggestions. What I would do... is put up the fence, then put LOTS of work into your new place... make it look really good, and get the assessment value really high... then sell the house for something 'reasonable'.
What'll happen... is YOUR house's assessed value will go up substantially, as will the PITA neighbor. They'll end up getting taxed right out of their home. ;-}
Don't become a plaintiff in a long-drawn suit, particularly a risky one. Better to be a defendant, particularly in a suit where your defense is pretty ironclad. Looser pays for the bulk of litigation costs!
Finally, don't ever get mad at someone who's doing you wrong, just file the complaints. If he threatens you, file the complaint, let the police deal with it. If the local authorities cast you off, THEN you call in the lawyer. Always leave your adversary just enough rope to hang themselves, and finally... go looking for a nice place out in the country... someplace quiet, fairly secluded, where you and your wife can be who you are, without having to listen to the racket of the rat-race.
Don't think for a minute that you're backing down or giving up... you bought a fixer-upper, and you did it, proved that it was done. Value raised, and sell it for the best you can get... consider it a stepping stone... make your next step, one that has septic and well, a 'livable' place that you can put sweat-equity in, or mebbie live in long enough to break ground and build a modern place... mebbie a couple'a run-down outbuildings and at least one fairly good one...
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Posted By: Gary IN
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 5:40pm
You must own the neighborhood to control it. Buy theirs and smile when you hand them their notice. Good Luck. Gary IN
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Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 6:02pm
Never met an honast lawer. Waste of money. Cameras OK But probably wont' get you any where. Kill them with kindness. They feed on haveing conflict.
------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend?
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 6:06pm
as jeff says...yeah...i do have ways of removing neighbors! but since you live in town, most of my ways won't work!! put up a fence, and it'll give them something to hang stuff on! like dead animals! put up cameras, if they see 'em, they'll mess with them! game cameras are the best, you can drill a small hole in garage to put the lens thru. don't waste money on lawyers, they will carry it thru for a year or better all the while charging you! if it's a dump, buy it, and tear it down for a garden spot! (thus no new neighbors to contend with) or you can build a garage for all your new AC's! you're young and have the time to make this work! sounds like you're a patient person..(which is good)! spend a little more patience and it'll work out!
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 6:12pm
I think Glenn and Dave have some pretty good ideas. I probably shouldn't say this, but if you really want to get back at them, here's what I did once about 20 years ago. I got a bottle of friction modifier (skunk in a bottle) from the Ford dealer I worked for and poured it in the fresh air inlet of an a******'s car that lived in the same apt building I did. The jerk actually was female and after that she never bothered me again. I also moved a few weeks later.
Like the others say, best to just move. I know it sucks, but look at it this way. You sound like you probably can put something together to move to a better neighborhood. Sounds like the other guy has crapped in his nest and is going nowhere for quite a while.
------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 6:33pm
Well half of the ways to stop it on here is good compared to what my neighbor said about my other neighbor. First he said he hoped a tornado would come through and wipe the family out. But that was so unlikely to happen so he said he wanted to make it to were there water heater blew up and killed them all.. A little harsh is what I said to him.
These neighbors are always coming and going we think they were selling drugs. They are going all night and its getting pretty bad so I feel the same way you do. But the man of that house is nice but its just the people he is with.
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Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 7:05pm
A call to the meth lab hotline ........
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Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 20 May 2011 at 9:51pm
Well guys thanks for the advice.....I sat down with the same District Magistrate that I went before with the false arrest.....we sat down and I started at the beginning....back when I bought the house and all the events since then. Well the first words out of his mouth about yesterday was "that their actions were arrogant bull$hit" .....and that is a quote and he asked if I took pics....which in my fury I did not....he informed me I have every right if they do ANYTHING to take pics(and if its the same kinda thing to ask them to clean it up) and if they dont do anything or Im not satisfied, to call the State Police and have them cited for Criminal Mischief and if the Police didnt want to deal with it, he would gladly allow me to Sue in his court for repairs, damages, and any cleanup I have to take care of. I've had my house listed nearly a year but I'm dropping the price significantly, and getting this sold.
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Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 12:55am
A word of encouragement for you Benny. You have your head on straight and enough good sense to keep it that way.I don't know ya but you've shown yourself to have good character since you came to this board.I'm glad you decided to cut your losses and move on.A newlywed couple doesn't need this aggrevation as they start life together.Find someplace safe and secure for your new wife and live life focusing on each other.Might be wise to rent something cheap while searching for the "right" spot.What I'm saying is,don't grab the first thing out of the box just to get away from there however, I doubt you would.
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Posted By: scott
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 8:48am
How about the opposite tact... get them to move. How loud is your stereo? How much does your dog bark? Ever drove an out of control tractor through a wall on accident? Trash fire on a windy day? Start out slow, perhaps with a patch of lawn on their side, that grows to the legal limit, then gets blown over to their side. Eye for an eye.
This IS a terrible time to sell a house. A lawyer or a fence is likely to cost a bundle. Way more than a bright light that shines in their window. Wait till the guy is gone and park a strange car in front of their house and sneak a set of mans shoes over by the door. All the above would yank my chain, but not as much as a mean rooster crowing. My take on tires is that leaky valve cores do not constitute damage. Get creative! Ya might start with a call to the dog catcher...
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Posted By: thomas davison
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 11:09am
Manh of the suggested solutions are expensive and or nasty. I might be better to forget the past problems and go to the neibhbor and suggest that you gorget past problems and woud like to live side by side in peace. The other guy may be tired of being nasty and would also like a little peace and quiet. It would not cost you anything to try this, and if it fiails then you will have to pursue other action. Just a thought.l
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Posted By: zootownjeepguy
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 11:42am
So you have "Michigan rednecks" in Pennsylvania too? I have a neighbor lady that's always calling the police and city to complain about my other neighbors. The old bat calls the cops if a twig falls in her yard (that's not an exaggeration) or if a kid's ball lands in her yard. The people that live next to her have gone so far as to have their trees removed so nothing falls in her yard and they are now in the process of getting approval for a tall privacy fence.
The old bat leaves me alone because I do what I call the "Hind-lick maneuver". I am always plowing snow for her and helping her out with my Bobcat or brush hog whenever she needs it done. Sometimes it's better to befriend the enemy than to fight them. The downside to this is that I'm the only neighbor she will talk to, and if she catches me outside working on something she'll come over and start ranting about things that any sane person would not even think about.
Sounds like it's too late for you though, things have gone too far. The only solution at this point might be for either you or them to move. Lawyers can only suck money out of your wallet.
I wish you luck!
P.S. I have a few gallons of gas here that's contaminated with that nasty goo from my Allis U tank. You could pour it in their car's gas tank!
------------- Rich Salvaggio
'31 Allis Chalmers U 7143
'46 Willys CJ2A Farm Jeep
'48 Caterpillar D2
Antique Garden tractors
*Other rusty old junk comes & goes without notice
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Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 3:29pm
I have some choice neighbors, and they have hated whoever lives in our house way before we got here. We tried to killl them with kindness, doing things they wanted, wife took them cookies at Christmas, nothing worked. Finally I sat down with the building inspector and looked for all of the things they weren't in compliance with. I picked one of the big things and turned them in. It took a couple notices from the town so they knew that both the wife and I and the town weren't going to back down. Finally the neighbor came over and wanted to make ammends. Told him too late, and that nothing would make me more happy then to turn him in once a year in the heat of the summer and watch the old man work on cleaning or fixing something up, and that each time I would be on my side of the fence drinking a cold beer watching. After the first thing we turned them in was over, their complaints to the town on us magically dissapeared. Every now and then he still whines about something over the fence and I always have a good comeback which ticks him off and he leaves me alone for another 6 months.
------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 3:46pm
i have a idea ok get some hogs and a feeder and those hogs will drive them out cause there feeder makes so much noise because of the lids lol its noisy
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Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 4:46pm
Maybe just maybe these neighbors are pretty much standard for what's out there today but you having grown up with disipline and training in your life cannot understand how these losers think.
Rationally think about your options and goals. If your headed to the country anyway and the appearance of the place next door fits the overall area =SELL.
Call owner next door to see if he'll buy and/or try to sell yourself before listing. Realtors work percentage games as in if he has 10 listings and 10% sell he starves but if he has 100 and 10% sell he is very sucessful. If yours is one of the 90% that didn't sell and he used your place to show and then sell others you'll be even more frustrated.
Offer to assist buyer with the down payment. I usually leave a maximum of 10% in the deal and take back a second with monthly payments for 5 years. Structure the deal so if you never get that money you are still good. Record your mortgage and it will never sell again without you being paid. Result you get 90% at closing and paper for balance.
You would have spent 6 or 7% on a realtor anyway. Advertise on Craigslist and other low cost pick up papers and put up an easy to read sign.
Go out and buy the family next door some video games as to make them believe you want a truce but really it will keep them in the house and out of sight while your trying to sell. (LOL)
MAKE this work for you.
Congrats on your wedding. Enjoyed the photos.
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Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 6:24pm
several years ago i had a neihbor who built in a , in a new rural subdivision, and built on one of the lots, that bordered my farm on the rear.
the guy who built next to my farm was a retired pain in the toosh, and conplained about everything, from the dust that the tractors and machinery made, to the noise.
he showed his arse one day at the local country store and finnally got me a little upset.
i asked him if he thought we should stop farming because he wanted a quiet life, and if he did not see the 200 acres of corn that was growing when he built his house.
needless to say he still thought he was in the right and i should not farm that piece of ground. his exact words where i had enough ground that i could move the corn field and let live stock pasture there.
so the next day , being the kind of guy i am and wanting to applease my nice neibor, i fenced off 3 acres that happened to border his 3 acre lot, moved a little lean to shed to the fence, and unloaded about fifty feet of feed trough, that was less than 100 feet from his bedroom
and the next sale day at the local livestock hog sale i bought 20 feeder sholts,
i also put a old 1000 gallon tank on a old trailer that i could use to get free whey, from our local cheese processor.
i made a point of driving a old farm truck, that had no exhaust left back there every morning at 3:30am to feed the hogs, before we milked , and if you have never smelled the scent that sour milk whey emits in summer time heat you are blessed. much less the smell of twenty hogs and the noise they make when its feeding time
i let those hogs feed out there that year and have never heard another complaint from that guy about the farm operations
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Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 6:25pm
Benny, Don't move to howard. There's some interesting characters down there too lol Hope everything gets worked out. I normally don't hear too much about centre hall but I guess there's one in every crowd
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Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 7:16pm
Well lots of ideas, but many wont work....We know the property we want, and its still in town. Property is at a price around here you cant imagine.....10 to 20k an acre isnt unusual to see. So buying rural property is out unless I move away from this area which I cant do with Dad and I's business. For those of you that understand what my avatar stands for should understand I'm going to do this the upright way....not dirty, not underhanded. I'll keep you all updated but the plan at the moment is to drastically lower my price on my house and get it sold.
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Posted By: maurice
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 8:29pm
I had an unpleasant neighbor. He was tresspassing on all his neighbors; some did not take kindly to him driving a bobcat in thier fields. So when one farmer got in unpleasant nieghbor's face, he turned his focus on me. Burned some evergreens, drunken yellings, training attack dogs,... I paid a lawyer about $50 to send him a letter asking him to pay for damages or turn it over to his own insurance. Insurance paid, but neighbor still behaved badly even encouraging his dog to advance on me. Until he noticed the (legally permitted) pistol on my hip. I never had to pull it from holster. He called his dogs back and was quiet ever since. That was 3 years. A few days ago, he came to apologize for his poor choices while drinking and that he is in recovery. So yes, there are other ways. But there is some very interesting advice here!
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Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 8:45pm
I've tried it all....kept to myself, let it all go, tried reasoning with them, tried burying the hatchet....doesnt matter....they're lowlifes and will be nothing better. It makes their day to bother me apparently but all is well because next time I'm just going to Sue them for the little that they have just to prove a point....and when I win, I'll give them an ultimatum.....pay up, or move out.
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 1:51am
ya kin put round up on their grass by your driveway...then they can't blow grass on your stuff! diesel fuel works good too!
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Posted By: se iowa picker
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 3:47pm
I like the idea of buying them out and then moving them out.That would be a nice day to have local boys come hand them their papers lol. Well what ever you do I wish you luck.
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Posted By: Breeze
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 4:00pm
Rent your place to some mexicans.
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Posted By: Greg_WJP_(WI)
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 4:57pm
Benny,
It doesn't sound like you're going this direction, but if you're considering buying out the landlord and evicting your neighbors, have a proxy buyer go through the house and document the condition...everything. My assumption, from your description of the neighbors, is that they will trash the house as they are forced to leave.
I can only imagine how tough it is, but I applaud you for taking the higher road. Don't let bad neighbors change who you are.
By the way, nice wedding pics.
Good luck with the house and your marriage.
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