Was this a sales mans case from AC
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Topic: Was this a sales mans case from AC
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Subject: Was this a sales mans case from AC
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 3:56pm
I am not interested in buying it but would just like to know if they where sales case .Thanks
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 4:08pm
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Sure is a high price for a decal, without documentation better than a story on e-bay it should be worth $20.00. The rest of the story isn't worth the paper it would be written on without some hard facts and documents.
Seems if the Navy had AC rep on board they would have more than salesmans case. After all on board ship nothing to sell but lot of AC to service in electrical, pumps, reductio gear , generators and such. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 4:13pm
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200608009593&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570%26_nkw%3D200608009593%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200608009593&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570%26_nkw%3D200608009593%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
Being that someone has clearly drawn the AC diamond on an old briefcase, I say this is bogus. ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 4:14pm
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Link to Allis Chalmers Tech. Rep Suitcase on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200608009593&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4684.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D200608009593%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200608009593&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4684.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D200608009593%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 4:53pm
| as a "AC" salesman in the '80's, we didn't have anything like that! just a plain ole black breifcase that you put your sales lit and orderforms,pens, calc and misc in! but that one it looks nice, but not for that price! would be more if had some lit inside! |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 6:12pm
| Thats a good story ; just not quite true , just my honest opinion |
Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:17pm
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If you enlarge the images and look at the AC logo really close, the left side of the A is bigger then the right side, and the second L in Allis and the L in Milwaukee, look really crooked, like it was done by hand. Not uncommon in that era to do something like this by hand, but I would think that it would have been done better then that. BS in my opinion. ------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221 |
Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:18pm
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Plus look at the orange all the way around, it is different from one side to the other. I'm no artist, but if I was going to make a fake reproduction of something to sell for big bucks, I would have tried to do a better job on it. ------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221 |
Posted By: se iowa picker
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:24pm
| you notice no one has bit yet. I would say if it was the real deal then for that price someone would have owned it by now |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:38pm
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Isn't this the second try to sell it? I thought it was on e-bay a couple weeks ago for around $250. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 6:30am
| For a price like that it should come with snap couple sampler,and a #^%& load of real good lit. then just get rid of the &^%$ poor look'in case.LOL |
Posted By: Scott(GA)
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 10:31am
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This case reminds me of what I see everytime I go to work. I'm a pilot with Delta Airlines. When I arrive at Delta Flight Operations in Atlanta one of the first things I see are racks containing hundreds of "Flight Kits". A Flight Kit is the case that holds the navigation publications and other stuff we carry on each flight. Delta specifies that these cases have to be black. So how do pilot's find their particular Flight Kit in this sea of black cases? We customize them! Most pilots have some special sticker or some other identifiable item that allows them to find their kit quickly. I'm guess that's what this item is as well. It's probably not official - it's probably a finding aid for the traveling salesman or a device to keep his case from being grabbed accidently by someone else that has a similar case. Another possible reason in addition to the above, if he was a rep and the military was his customer, there's a good chance that Seaman Schmuckatelli was tasked to pick him up in a military vehicle at the Train/Bus Station. The A/C logo would have helped the lad to find him. Best regards, Scott |
Posted By: tractorchuckie
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 12:06pm
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------------- still looking for the holy grail of Allis |
Posted By: tractorchuckie
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 12:24pm
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ok I don't know why it keeps doing that, but I have seen two sale brief case. one is for the agricultural and it was brown with the flap that flips over with and hole in it for the handle. the flap has one clasp in the middle and the ac diamond about an inch above the clasp. the other one was black and was industrial, both were from the late thirties to the early fourties by the literature and paper work in them. I know who has them and he is an good friend and that all I will say. the one one ebay looks like an arts and crafts project. But I have been wrong before. thxchuck ------------- still looking for the holy grail of Allis |
Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 12:31pm
| My Grandfather was a furniture salesman from the thirties until late fifties. He had a case just like that one but with no markings. I recieived it from my step grandmother when he passed away. I would tend to believe that it may have belonged to a tech rep who added the logo himself. It looks to be in very nice condition wih little wear (compared to Grandpa's case.) So it maybe that the story is true - it may have been left behind. |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 12:45pm
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Fred, Do be careful. I have my father's Allis Chalmers briefcase. It is not like that by a long shot.
I viewed this item on e-bay and realized that the owener had just put a decal on the case so he could identify it. This is not an official Allis Chalmers Agricultural Dealer Case. I do not have a picture but they were much more elaborate with a three ring binder built in showing Allis Chalmers Information and many pockets for literature, price books, note paper, etc.
In fact, my son sent it to Nan at Old Allis News for her records. When Nan Sold the Business I contacted her and requested that she send it back. I was very glad to receive it back in original condition.
One of my prized posessions along with Pop's Price Book.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 2:54pm
This is a picture of a friend's Dad's brief case. His Dad worked for Allis-Chalmers setting up dealers etc. I printed a page from ebay a few years ago that was a brown brief case for sale. It had a much smaller and newer style A-C diamond (1949-1964 style). If ebay archives old items, it was item 360107386833 Nov 24 2008. It sold for $34.99 and I should have bought it.  ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 4:34pm
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That suitcase has been on 3 or 4 times, each time he raises the starting bid.... Pretty soon it will be so high someone will get an idea it must be worth something! ------------- Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment. From listening comes wisdom and from speaking comes repentance. Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. |