I'm going to look at a 1946 B Saturday
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Topic: I'm going to look at a 1946 B Saturday
Posted By: Protrucker
Subject: I'm going to look at a 1946 B Saturday
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 6:50am
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I have to make a 4+ hour trip to attend my daughter's wedding Friday. On the way back Saturday, I'm going to make a 10-20 mile detour to look at a 1946 A/C B and attachments that are for sale. Here's the list of what he's got:
'46 B with attachments for sale. The tractor is in good condition. It would restore easily. It has a disc, drag, one bottom plow, back blade and broken but fixable bush hog. All the tires are in like new condition. The tractor is a 6 volt push button start. It runs well.
Any advice on what to look out for & what this package could be worth is appreciated.
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Posted By: Tedin NE-OH
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 11:19am
| Look out for loose wheel on the rear axel. Expensive to fix. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 2:31pm
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Sounds like a nice package. Check the front axle pivot to see how worn it is. Gives you some indication of the amount of time on the unit. Agree on the rear axle, push/pull each rear wheel in and out to see of it has movement. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Tedin NE-OH
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 3:01pm
| Look for excessive play in the steering wheel. Fixable but detracts from value. |
Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 3:12pm
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OK, thanks.
Look for loose rear wheels, slop in the front axle pivot & steering wheel. Anything else?
I know there are a lot of variables, but how about a ballpark value for the package?
Does $1500 - $2000 sound reasonable?
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 4:40pm
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For me, yes it is worth it but I like B's.
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Boogerowen
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:52am
| Just bought 2 B models this past week, a 42 mod running great, and a 46 mod that needs a little engine work, not much, but some, Looking forward to "playing" with these little "fellers"...... |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 12:18pm
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Sounds like a very good group of equipment along with a running B. Hope it works out. I would think if you could get all that for $ 1500 - $ 2000 you have a great buy.
Take good care of my favorate.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 8:54am
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Well, I went to see it and it's in pretty nice shape. The things That I noticed that needs attention are: • battery box is rusted badly • steering wheel should be replaced • exhaust stack is loose • right rear wheel moves slightly on axle • starter sounds like it has trouble engaging sometimes • left brake not working The good: • starts (electric & hand crank) and runs good (no smoke) • nice tin (no dents or bad rust) • rear tires are almost new • front tires are very good • seat is like new • lot's of attachments: original single bottom plow pull behind double disc's woods 3-pt back blade single section spring harrow
We agreed on a price of $1750 for everything & I offered a deposit, but my word and a handshake was enough for him. Now, I've got to find a trailer or make arrangements to have it hauled home.
I tried to post pic's, but tinypic.com isn't working for me now. I try to upload a pic & it's security code never shows up for me to type it in to upload. I'll post pic's when I can.
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Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 11:16am
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I would pay for it pronto before $1850 comes along. I'm just sayin' better safe than sorry. Does it have a 3pt. conversion? Sounds like you got a great deal. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: junkman
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 12:12pm
| Starter sounds like it has trouble engaging sometimes? Sounds like to me that the ring gear is about shot. might have to break it in half and fix it some day. I passed up a good running C the other day because of this and it was only 900 dollars. |
Posted By: MilesGray (CO/KS)
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 12:27pm
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If the starter ring was flipped, you will get a grinding noise in the starter until the ring wears down some so it seats properly. My 48 C does this from time to time when I start it. ------------- Miles Gray (CO/KS) 5 1938 B's, 1940 B, 1944 WF C, 1948 NF C, Gleaner A, White Top Rotobaler, 1957 IH Golden Jubilee... I'm either a collector, or crazy! |
Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 1:25pm
I hope this works, here's pic's of the tractor:
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Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 1:58pm
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Looks pretty nice - good tin! Tires look decent, too. Looks like you got a pretty good deal.
I like that solenoid - I've been thinking about doing that to my C as the wife has problems starting it with the rod.
cheers,
Creek
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Posted By: Breeze
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 2:10pm
| Nice looking unit Trucker. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 3:26pm
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Have fun with it ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: se iowa picker
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 9:29pm
| Nice find there and you got a pretty good buy on it, enjoy it and post some implement pics too. |
Posted By: Rayhowling
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 9:38pm
| I replaced the wheel bearings and seals on my CA about 5 years ago and didn't cost all that much. Would a B be any different for cost? |
Posted By: Tedin NE-OH
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 9:44pm
| His problem with a loose wheel is not a bearing, it is a worn spline on axek and in wheel. |
Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 10:13pm
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Tedin NE-OH wrote:Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 12:08am
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Sounds and looks like a great deal. Unless you are working it hard, I wouldn't worry about the wheel looseness much.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 10:42am
| I'd say ya done good. |
Posted By: Ron(WA)
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 2:45pm
| I think you did very well. Now hustle over and close the deal before he finds another buyer who will go you a few dollars better. |
Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 2:59pm
| I just spent most of the day trying to locate a trailer to haul my new purchase home. The tractor is about 123 miles from here. If I could find someone to haul it for me without costing me 1/3 to 1/2 of the cost of a trailer, I'd do that. I'm almost ready to buy a brand new 7000 GVWR trailer for between $2500-$3000, but I really didn't want to spend that kind of money right now. I've got a lot going out already, between the new tractor purchase & the money I've been spending on remodeling the house. |
Posted By: junkman
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 4:35pm
| Go rent one. Rental store or U haul. |
Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 4:42pm
| I did check into renting a trailer. No one around here (even U-haul) has an equipment trailer to rent. I'm probably going to end up buying one. Then I'll be able to haul the tractor & anything else that I want without the hassle again. Heh.....with the price of scrap metal right now, I might try picking up scrap vehicles & other scrap metal to help pay for the trailer. |
Posted By: junkman
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 4:49pm
| I know metal is high right now but the price you quoted for a new trailer sound to me a bit high. It could just be the location but I would check craigs list first |
Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 10:25pm
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The price of steel is up, so cost of trailers made out of steel is up too.
I did quite a bit of looking around & pricing on the internet today. The same trailer that I'm looking at getting locally was quoted at $800 more down in Mechanicsburg, PA.
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Posted By: junkman
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 10:36pm
| Just a thought. If you mentioned to uhaul that you wanted to haul a tractor they would naturally say they don't have one. I believe there car trailers will work just fine. So you call them and tell them you need to haul a Geo and see what they say unless you really need a trailer. |
Posted By: MilesGray (CO/KS)
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 10:47pm
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An Allis B will fit on a 6' open trailer, but you cannot tell U-Haul that you are hauling a tractor. Manure, large appliances to the dump, furniture... anything but a tractor... I think they even have a clause in the contract about it... ------------- Miles Gray (CO/KS) 5 1938 B's, 1940 B, 1944 WF C, 1948 NF C, Gleaner A, White Top Rotobaler, 1957 IH Golden Jubilee... I'm either a collector, or crazy! |
Posted By: steigerbro24
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 9:14pm
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That is the most rudimentary 3 point i have ever seen but it makes me think that I can easily make one |