3 bottom plow parts
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Topic: 3 bottom plow parts
Posted By: rossinmich
Subject: 3 bottom plow parts
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 10:47pm
| I am in need of parts for my snap coupler plow, particularly a new share which was broken off when I bought it. Who has parts for these plows? It is the kind of share that fits into a hole on the backside and then drawn tight by a long bolt which also is broken, and also a shorter bolt that clamps it on. Sorry I cant be more descriptive, I dont know what model plow it is either. |
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Posted By: Tedin NE-OH
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 10:49pm
| What tractor are you using it with. ? |
Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 6:31am
| Ross, take the share off and look on the back for a number. I have a 53 plow that uses a share like the one you described. I'm parting out a couple of plows, but none of them have that share. |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 6:33am
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Nobody that I am aware of has stocks of parts for those plows. People who wheel and deal in parts pick up a few N.O.S. parts now and then and have them for sale and other prts come from parted down plows. The model of plow makes no real differance but can narrow down the possible bottom numbers which is what you need to know to get the right parts. Your bottoms take what I call "fitted" shares, some call them "blacksmith" points, you can call them non-throwaway and if the dealer doesnt know what you are talking about he isnt going to have what you need anyway. In the years of pick up plows with fitted shares there were by and large two styles used, either #325 bottoms or #74 bottoms and they dont interchange. If you have slatted bottoms I think they take the same share as the #74s. Best thing to do is to remove your shares and look for a number on the back. With that a list of numbers that will fit can be given and you just have to go on the hunt at swap meets and used A-C parts dealers, asking here is a good first step. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 8:05am
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Plow shares tended to not be interchangeable between bottoms. There were a dozen or more different bottom numbers (each often offered in three widths) and often at least a half dozen plow share options for each bottom number and width. If I was at home, I could possibly identify the bottom from a picture of the bottom taken from below. All the interesting details are of the frog, the braces, and underside of the assembly. I have a plow bottoms book that all the assemblies are drawn as the plow is laying on the landside and viewed from the bottom direction. Knowing the plow frame number won't do much to identify the bottom, as bottoms were sold separately from plow frames and mostly interchange. The 50 family has a straight vertical shank and a fixed frame width. The 60 has a sloping shank and fixed frame width. The 70 has sloping shank and adjustable frame width (two plow widths only). The 80 has sloping spring trip shank and adjustable frame width. To be dead certain about the bottom we need a number from the moldboard, frog, share, or shin to look up in he bottoms book. These parts interchange the least, landsides with the same numbers were used on several bottoms sometimes. The single bolt and hooked draw bolt shares, the best I recall were used in the 25, 125, and 325 plain bottoms and some of the similar slatted bottoms. Measure plow bottom width by the distance between plow beams exactly perpendicular to the plow beams and the direction of travel. Should be 12, 14, 16, or rarely 18 inches. Gerald J. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 9:15am
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I have the back bottom off a 3 bottom plow, removed. I don't know what condition the wear parts are, but I can dig it out and see.
PM me if you are interested. I'm located south of Fenton MI. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: Murph-NC
Date Posted: 12 May 2011 at 11:45am
I have these J-bolts for sale if they are what you're describing... here's a link to my post in CLASSIFIEDS... http://allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30071 - http://allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30071 . I might also have the short bolt... can you post pictures of what you need?
 ------------- '41 C w/Woods L503 mower, #3 mower, 2-way plows for C |
Posted By: rossinmich
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 10:21pm
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Posted By: rossinmich
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 10:22pm
| That is what I need, anyone know if there are any remakes of these parts? I do need the J bolt also, but I need the share first. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 10:35pm
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Looks like the moldboard is missing some metal too, that was broken off. Turn the plow over on the landside and shoot a picture of the bottom, that I can compare the frog and bracing with the illustrations in the plow bottoms book to have a chance of identifying the bottom and then I can post a list of the share numbers to look for. Gerald J. |
Posted By: rossinmich
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 6:53pm
Here are some pics, let me know if you need others to help identify, looking at the plow today, all 3 shares need replacing as they have seen use by the looks of it. Appreciate the help with locating them. I wish someone would make these parts still....  |
Posted By: rossinmich
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 6:57pm
| The number on the moldboard is 309211, the shares say SOLID on the right side on back. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 9:28pm
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309211 is the moldboard for a 14" right hand #325 plow bottom. The only application for that moldboard. You also need a 308816 bracket, draw rod that bolts to the bolt of the share and a 314586 draw rod. The share provides the front of the landside so its not a simple flat share. These parts were also used on the #25 bottom 14 inch and the bracket was used on the 16 inch #24 bottom. The draw rod was used on the 16" #24, all sizes of the #25, the #54 (only came in 14"), and the 14" prairie breaker bottom with Q.D. share. Share numbers that fit are:308801 (soft center steel), 309246 (alfalfa), 323651 (F.C.D.S {full cut deep suck}), 308804 (solid steel), 308837 (Narrow C.D.S), 308807 (chilled iron), and 309222 (chilled iron, N.C.D.S.). All of these shares were also used on the #25 bottom. I only have a plow bottoms book, no parts. Gerald J. |
Posted By: rossinmich
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 10:09pm
| Thank you Gerald for that info, Now, does anyone by chance on here know of or have any of these shares? |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 10:18pm
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call lyle hunsley 1(217)-691-8302 9-11a.m. or 1-5 p.m. central time
tell him what you need part number and everything. he might have some. he might be able to ship them to you. but i dont know.
tell him don durbin's grandson told you about him. ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: rossinmich
Date Posted: 28 May 2011 at 11:20pm
| Here is a place that has new ones for sale.. for the 325 bottom, http://balsters.net/plowshares.html - http://balsters.net/plowshares.html |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 12:56am
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I think I would buy another plow before paying $170 per share. Call Manchester Farm Center at 1-800-552-0512 I have got shares from them. ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |