180 hard starting
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Topic: 180 hard starting
Posted By: DougG
Subject: 180 hard starting
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 12:52pm
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Just put a new engine in a 180, new rebuilt injector pump, along with injectors ; it runs great but when you first start it , it takes a little bit to get it started ,, it does have the old big starter on it - it has a new 1200 amp battery ; seems to turn over fast just wont start right off the bat ; smokes- but slow starting , I redone a 200 bout 7 years ago and it started on the first round even at 20 degrees ; would the smaller newer starter help you think ?
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Posted By: allis6080
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 1:02pm
sounds like you mite be a degree or two off. i had a 180 do the same thing when i took the the inj. pump off to be rebuilt. can't remember but i think i had to advance it alittle. hope this helps. some one mite know better than me though.
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6060 s\n 5016
1947 JD B
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 2:38pm
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If you use the manifold heater for 60 seconds it will start right up, correct???
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 4:49pm
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My old 180 is far from rebuilt but pulls even and strong with little blowby, it is however a pig to start below 50 degrees needing ether most of the time, above 60 it cranks a little long but usually fires up loaded up. I chalk it up to a roosa master style pump, weak nozzle settings and just low compression.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 5:07pm
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Yes Dr . if you use the heater it helps a bunch; or use the water heater it helps , the timing is dead on , could advance it a degree i guess
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 5:13pm
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Retard a degree or two for better starting on an AC engine....better yet...advance it and see how much worse it is and then retard it.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 5:18pm
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Will this affect the engine performance at all ? I,m doing this for somone and dont want to pay for it !!!!
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Posted By: allis6080
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 5:20pm
thanks dr. i couldnt remember which way to go its been a few years!
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6060 s\n 5016
1947 JD B
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 5:20pm
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Make it start better and then see whay you think...a 180 is to be timed at 22 degrees.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 5:23pm
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OK , I,ll try that !!!! Thanks again Dr A !!!!!
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