Planting corn question
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Topic: Planting corn question
Posted By: Lonn
Subject: Planting corn question
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 8:06am
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How many of you farmers don't apply starter fertilizer with the planter on your corn ground? Anybody just broadcast fertilizer before planting? So far I apply liquid starter with the planter and also broadcast before planting. Is there be any advantage to apply starter over just putting it all on as broadcast. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
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Posted By: JJ_Ohio
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 8:52am
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A guy in our neighborhood does that. Bought a new planter, went from 12 row to an 8 without fert attachments. Plants about 1/3 more acres in a day with the 8 row than he did with the 12 due to time savings from not filling fertilizer too. I suppose you still have to figure the time you'd spend broad casting it or paying to have it done. I think he said he puts half on in the fall then finishes the last half of his fert application in the spring. I don't know about changes in yield? I'm going to experiment and try 30 acres by that method this spring (2011). ------------- JJ Polk, Ohio |
Posted By: ky wonder
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:02am
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i use a buggy to broad cast my fertilze and broadcast amonia as a side dress when the corn reaches about 25-30"height, the side dress will burn the top leaves some but the growth spurth will green it back up , been doing it this way for over 40 years ------------- i like old tractors of all colors |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:04am
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At one time, you used to see a lot of guys having liquid fert applied with the planter. Today I rarely see that. I think most spread it in the fall in front of the chisel plow. I don't know about no-tillers.
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Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 11:48am
| Agronomically and yield wise there is no advantage received by using starter fertilizer IF your soil test are adequate and soil conditions and temperatures are right. Under some adverse conditions there could be a benefit to starter fertilizer, but it is seldom enough to justify the cost in time and money for equipment. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 7:14pm
| From a no-tiller's perspective: I put down starter fertilizer in the furrow and 28-0-0 in between the rows all in one pass with the planter. Only pass I make, except for spraying and combining. Darrel |
Posted By: wheatbreeder
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 7:31pm
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we broadcast 500 lb 0f 30-10-10 and work it in Morley ------------- Farm stuff 8050,6690,175,F2,5050,WD |
Posted By: se iowa picker
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 8:48pm
Most guys here in Iowa put on Anhydrous Ammonia in the fall or the spring ahead of the planter and broadcast the rest dry either fall or spring depending on the weather. I still put starter on with my planter cause Im to chicken to mess with the gas.
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Posted By: Roddo
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:41pm
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I'm gonna do it old school this year. Its more work but I like spending time on my tractor. Also, I only do about 10 acres. I'm going to put starter with the planter and side dress with the 45 when time comes with amonium nitrate. |
Posted By: Gregor
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:55pm
| I do a few test plots every year. It really depends on the year. Last 2 years, there was absolutely no difference in yeild. I use to put 6 gal per acre on in furrow in no-till. I also apply 11-52-0 at 100 lbs plus some added stuff. About 5 years ago when I first started soil testing and using starter, I felt the corn needed the boost due to lower nutrients in the ground. I went to a different planter this year and don't have the liquid starter stuff on it. I feel I'm better off with dry than the in furrow system. With that said, last year I swore that there was going to be a 20 bushel less yeild difference with the check strip. You could see the difference from the next hill over. But the weight wagon proved me wrong. 2 years ago there was no difference in yeild but the moisture was about 1.5 points dryer. |
Posted By: Dennis IL
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:58pm
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Lonn, that's all I ever do is broadcast. I just do sweetcorn not field corn but it sure works for me!
Last year I tried to get my regular fertilizer at the elevator and they gave me some song and dance about how they don't have it something to do with they are getting away from phos in the mix, sounds like balony to me but that's what they said. I did broadcast some 28-0-3 and WOW! did that sweetcorn take off! worked just fine I'll probably do it the same way again.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 11:06pm
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I had very good results with very efficient us of N in 2007. I had 100 pounds of MAP spread giving 10 pounds of N. I put down about 60 pounds of N as 32% 2-1/4 inches off the row with the planter. I applied about a pound of N as AMS with two passes of glyphosate and I side dressed 40 pounds of N as 32% when the corn was about 3 feet tall just dribbled it every other row. I did 173.2 bushels of corn on 111 total units of N (after poor beans). Putting it down with the planter and side dressing were part of that super N efficiency. The other thing was choosing the corn number to tolerate being short sheeted on N. That was no till. My strip tilling tenant hasn't beat that yield yet but he's trying. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 10:28am
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We apply anhydrous in the spring a few weeks to a month before planting then broadcast the P & K (didn't need any P this year per the soil tests for the field that gets corn. It will get a pass with the field cultivator before planting. While the planter used by my farming partner is a no-till planter, he did disc-chisel it last fall. One of the reasons for the fall tillage was that we put quite a bit of drain tile in the field last fall and we wanted to loosen up the top so once the re-filled tile trenches settled by spring it'd be easier to smooth them out. BTW - the tile job has eliminated 80% or more of the wet spots/drainage issues we had in the field. Mike ------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |